

Talking Scared
Neil McRobert
Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.
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Apr 11, 2023 • 1h 8min
138 – Rachel Eve Moulton & The Bellybutton of the Beast
Send us a textBack to the Island this week! With Rachel Eve Moulton and The Insatiable Volt Sisters.Rachel sophomore novel is the weirdest island story since Lost, or Brexit. It features a strange family with a stranger secret, curses, killer quarry ponds and the wearing of other people’s skin. And yet you probably still want to visit Fowler Island (I did). We talk about working with surrealism, about writing volatile sisters and gendered monsters, and about the wonderful horror-lure of island life. It’s worth noting, we also spend time discussing famous suicide hotspots – this seems like something you should know in advance. Enjoy!The Insatiable Volt Sisters was published on April 4th by FSG Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Tinfoil Butterfly (2019), by Rachel Eve Moulton
Hurricane Girl (2022), by Marcy Dermansky
Diary (2003), by Chuck Palahniuk
The House of Dies Drear (1968), by Virginia Hamilton
“The Raft”, in Skeleton Crew (1985), by Stephen King
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Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 9min
137 – Kelly Link & Once Upon a Time in a Ghost Story
Send us a textFairy tales are the first horror stories, right? Kids being eaten by witches, narcissistic imps who steal your babies. That’s the good stuff. Kelly Link knows a thing or two about the darkness inside fairy tales, and how to (re)tell them for maximum effect. She is a superstar of the short story, a Pultizer nominee and someone who just plain knows a lot of interesting stuff. Her new collection, White Cat, Black Dog takes some of your favourite stories and twists them into new shapes. Some you’ll recognise, most you won’t (unless you have a degree in folklore or just run to Wikipedia to look smart). We talk about how and why she reinvents stories, why she wishes every story was a ghost story, and how she controls the extreme weirdness in her fiction. Oh, and she also indulges me as I ask her lots of questions about my favourite story in years. One she wrote. You’ll be sick of me saying the title by the end.Enjoy!White Cat, Black Dog was published on March 28th Other books mentioned in this episode include:
The Women Could Fly (2022), by Megan Giddings
Get In Trouble: Stories (2015), by Kelly Link
When Things Get Dark: Stories Inspired by Shirley Jackson (2021), ed. by Ellen Datlow
Our Share of Night (2022), by Mariana Enriquez
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Mar 28, 2023 • 1h 11min
136 – Max Booth III & Stories With Teeth
Send us a textTerrible times and awful words await us this week. Thankfully, on this show that’s a good thing!Our guest is Max Booth III, the wizard behind Ghoulish Books and the author of bathroom-set apocalypse, We Need to Do Something. He’s here to talk about his new collection of uber-dark stories, Abnormal Statistics.These tales are pitch black, treacle-thick pieces of clotted nastiness. Bad things happen to lots of people, most frequently children (but never dogs). Many a mind is tortured and many a tooth is sucked (!!) Max and I talk about how these stories reflect his own disjointed childhood. We talk about awful true crimes and why he’s addicted to information that is bad for him. We also try to pin down precisely what it is about human teeth that seem so universally unnerving… plus some references to my favourite creepypasta stories.This is the best bad time you’ll have this week.Enjoy!Abnormal Statistics was published by Apocalypse Party on March 23rd Other books mentioned in this episode include:
The Haunting of Camp Winter Falcon (2022), by Jonathan Raab
This Appearing House (2022), by Ally Malinenko
“The Whimper of Whipped Dogs” (1973), by Harlan Ellison
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Mar 21, 2023 • 1h 21min
135 – Victor LaValle & The Weird, Weird West
Send us a textWagons West this week, with a guest I’ve been trying to get on the show since the early days. It’s Victor Lavalle.I had always wanted to speak to him about The Ballad of Black Tom in the dream that we could join together to call Lovecraft names. As it turns out, that will have to wait, cos he’s brought out a brand-new novel … and it’s a Weird Western. Cue squealing!! It’s one of my favourite sub-genres.We talk about homesteading and wilderness, about bad neighbours and New York City, about family and fidelity to truth and the need for happy endings … and there’s an awful lot of chat about monsters. This is one of the best episodes of the year so far. You’ll learn, you’ll laugh, you’ll almost certainly cry. Why aren’t you crying? What’s wrong with you? Are you heartless??Enjoy!Lone Women was published by on March 28thth by One WorldOther books mentioned in this episode include:
The Ballad of Black Tom (2016), by Victor Lavalle
The Changeling (2017), by Victor Lavalle
The Devil in Silver (2012), by Victor Lavalle
Montana Women Homesteaders: A Field of One’s Own (2009), by Dr Sarah Carter
The Autobiography of My Mother (1996), by Jamaica Kincaid
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Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 21min
134 – Margaret Atwood & Hope in the Dystopia
Send us a textThere is no cool and collected way to introduce this week’s episode. Our guest is Margaret Atwood.Yes, that Margaret Atwood. The author of The Handmaid’s Tale. One of the few writer’s who genuinely deserves to be called an icon (though she may be tired of the term). She published her first novel in 1969 and now as she enters her seventh decade of writing, her stories are no less challenging or surprising. Her new collection, Old Babes in the Wood is a feast of darkness and light. It swerves from myth to sci-fi, to body horror, all bookended by stories about love and loss and grief. And she came on this little show to talk about it.We unveil the inspirations behind some of the stories. We talk about disease and dystopia through history, the dangers of Canadian wilderness, men who turn into bears, the relationship of horror and slapstick, and her own haunted house.It was a privilege. Enjoy!Old Babes in the Wood was published by on March 7th by Vintage and DoubledayOther books mentioned in this episode include:
Bunny (2019), by Mona Awad
Carmilla (1872), by Sheridan Le Fanu
The Handmaids Tale (1984), by Margaret Atwood
Oryx and Crake (2003), by Margaret Atwood
Alias Grace (1996), by Margaret Atwood
Lady Oracle (1976), by Margaret Atwood
Black Water: The Book of Fantastic Literature (1983), ed. Alberto Manguel
Dark Arrows: Chronicles of Revenge (1985), ed. Alberto Manguel
On Writing (2000), by Stephen King
The Death of Grass (1956), by John Christopher
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Mar 7, 2023 • 1h 10min
133 – Jacqueline Holland & At Last! Vampires!
Send us a textVampires, finally! After years of recording a horror podcast, I’ve finally recorded a conversation about the first thing you all probably think of if I said “horror monster.” Actually, at this very moment, maybe you’d name a Floridian politician but you get my drift…I’m delighted to be joined by Jacqueline Holland, to talk about her new novel of bloodsucking and cursed immortality, The God of Endings. As with so many books featured on this show, it’s an offbeat look at an old trope, with a vampire that has no problem with garlic and who is not at all horny! She’s also a pre-school teacher in the 80s. That’s REALLY hardcore!Jacqueline and I talk about horror imposter-syndrome, the history of New England vampires, monstrous mothers, the terror of living forever, and how she has always been…in her own words… a dark weirdo.Enjoy!The God of Endings was published by on February 7th by Flatiron BooksOther books mentioned in this episode include:
What I Didn’t See, and Other Stories (2002), by Karen Joy Fowler
We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves (2013), by Karen Joy Fowler
Food for the Dead: On the Trail of New England’s Vampires (2001), by Michael Bell
Something Wicked This Way Comes (1962), by Ray Bradbury
The Martian Chronicles (1950), by Ray Bradbury
The Shining (1977), by Stephen King
Just Like Mother (2022), by Anne Heltzel – Episode 92
The Upstairs House (2021), by Julia Fine – Episode 27
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Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 13min
132 – Matt Ruff & A Hostile Universe Here on Earth
Send us a textThis week I take a road trip with Matt Ruff, into the more monstrous corners of the universe. Sure, some of them are alien planets… but some are here on earth, with the racists! Matt is best known as the author of 2016’s Lovecraft Country. He never planned to write a sequel, yet here it is. The Destroyer of Worlds picks up several years later, when Atticus, Letetia, Montrose and Hipolyta et al are still battling malign forces both human and otherworldly.I went into it nervously, thinking surely a white author can’t pull of a story about Black characters in Jim Crow America without really sh***ing the bed. I was wrong! Matt and I debate the responsibility and potential pitfalls of the project, and what his books get right that other ventriloquised stories get wrong. But we also talk about monsters and comic horror and the terror and joy of a wide-open universe. And of course, Lovecraft. Though, not kindly. Enjoy!The Destroyer of Worlds was published by on February 21st by HarperCollins Support Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 21, 2023 • 1h 22min
131 – Johnny Compton & A Pyroclastic Flow of Negative Energy
Send us a textI like my ghosts like I like my podcasts – weird and slightly furious. Thankfully, this week delivers on both counts – with Johnny Compton’s The Spite House delivering more ghosts than you think you could fit into 250-pages … and none of them are anything less than fuming! Johnny talks us through the odd, off-kilter history of spite houses, we trace the legacy of the American haunted house novel, discuss ghost lore and dismiss orbs. We talk about complex father figures and I have my smuggest ever moment of being accidentally right about something. It’s a blast. Johnny is a joy to talk to and his book gives great ghostliness.Enjoy!The Spite House was published by on February 7th by Tor Nightfire.Support Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 14, 2023 • 1h 33min
130 – Mariana Enriquez & This Cruelty is Justified
Send us a textIt’s a Valentine’s day episode and what better to celebrate today than a conversation about cruelty, brutal folklore, political terror and black magic? Don’t tell me I don’t understand my audience.I’m beyond delighted to welcome Mariana Enriquez to the show to talk about her massive novel, Our Share of Night. It features all of the above ingredients, in a 700+ page roam through decades of Argentinian history, demonic misconduct.This ranks amongst the most unstructured conversations I’ve had on this show. I just say some words and then let Mariana let rip. But to give you a taster – we cover her current boredom with the short story, the double standard of harming kids in fiction, houses that eat people, Freddie Krueger and Heathclife and why horror is inevitable in Argentinian fictionEnjoy!Our Share of Night was published by Granta in the UK in October, 2022 and in the US on 7th February, 2023 by HogarthOther books mentioned in this episode:
The Black Maybe: Liminal Tales (2022), by Attila Veres
The Dangers of Smoking in Bed (2009), by Mariana Enriquez
Things We Lost in the Fire (2017), by Mariana Enriquez
Shuggie Bain (2020), by Douglas Stuart
In Patagonia (1977), by Bruce Chatwin
Mary: An Awakening of Terror (2022), by Nat Cassidy
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Feb 7, 2023 • 1h 20min
129 – Stephen Graham Jones & Slashers Can Save the World
Send us a textAre you ready for another bloody confrontation? Same rules, different setting (actually still my attic bedroom) and more gore?Stephen Graham Jones AKA Professor Slasher, returns to Talking Scared to discuss Don’t Fear the Reaper, the sequel to his zeitgeist-blasting slasher-ode, My Heart is a Chainsaw. Reaper takes us back to Proofrock, Idaho for a freezing night of rage and bloodshed, with returning favourites and a whole new killer who reads like the distillation of American carnage.That all sounds suitably epic. Hopefully this conversation matches. Stephen and I talk about favourite slasher sequels, minority monsters in fiction, getting to know Jade Daniels even better, and the importance of writing yourself into a corner.This is an episode a lot of you have been waiting for. Enjoy. And watch out for hook-handed men.Enjoy! Don’t Fear the Reaper was published by Saga and Titan Books on 7th February, 2023 Other books mentioned in this episode:
Maeve Fly (2023), by C.J. Leade
My Heart is a Chainsaw (2021), by Stephen Graham Jones
The Final Girl Support Group (2021), by Grady Hendrix
Moon of the Crusted Snow (2018), by Waubgeshig Rice
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