

Talking Scared
Neil McRobert
Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.
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Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 9min
158 – Catriona Ward & Rewriting the American Gothic (Like, Literally)
Send us a textIf you thought The Last House on Needless Street was tricksy, just wait until you hear about Looking Glass Sound. This is Cat’s ode to the Maine of Stephen King, the enigmatic narrators of Shirley Jackson and… well, a host of other comparisons that I foist upon her in the next hour.Above all that though – the book is so typically, inimitably Catriona Ward. It’s a destined Gothic classic that takes the genre, crumples it into a ball before rewriting the whole thing. We cover the purpose of metafiction in horror, how writing a book is like falling in love, the eeriness of the Maine coast and her fascination with the Neverland Ranch. If that isn’t enough Cat also tells us a ghost story that happened to her just the night before.Tricksy, very tricksy…as Gollum would say.EnjoyLooking Glass Sound was published April 20th by Viper Books in the UK and 22nd August by Tor Nightfire in the US.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Lunar Park (2005), by Bret Easton Ellis
The Rules of Attraction (1987), by Bret Easton Ellis
The Secret History (1992), by Donna Tartt
My Other Life (1996) by Paul Theroux
Any Human Heart (2002), by William Boyd
The Haunting of Hill House (1959), by Shirley Jackson
Death of a Bookseller (2023), by Alice Slater
Mrs March (2021), by Virgina Feito
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Aug 22, 2023 • 1h 15min
157 – Josh Winning & The World Through Blood-Tinted Glasses
Send us a textWe’re off to La La Land this week, to talk cursed films, 90s horror nostalgia and Winona Ryder(!!) Our guest is Josh Winning – who has parlayed his years of writing from and about film sets into a horror novel. Burn the Negative is set in the backlots, soundstages, cutting rooms and dank motel rooms of Hollywood. It features a film with a fatal jinx and a whole lotta love for the 90s teen slasher. Amongst all of that, Josh and I also tick off the uncanny creepiness of child stars, the validity of fun in horror and the power of the silhouette in making a really scary horror villain. EnjoyBurn the Negative was published on July 11th by Penguin Random HouseOther books mentioned in this episode include:
The Shadow Glass (2022), by Josh Winning
The Final Girl Support Group (2021), by Grady Hendrix
My Heart is a Chainsaw (2021), by Stephen Graham Jones
House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski
“N”– in Just After Sunset (2008), by Stephen King
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Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 23min
156 – Sadie Hartmann & The Books of Our Horrid Hearts
Send us a textSorry not sorry this week. Yes I’m going to destroy your wallet and your bookshelves…but you LOVE IT!!Our guest is Sadie Hartmann, AKA Mother Horror to the likes of us. One of the most influential horror reviewers in the world. The editor in chief of Dark Hart Books and the co-owner of the Night Worms horror subscription service. She knows a thing or two about this haunted library.And she’s written a book to guide the unwary, or the just-plain curious. Or anyone who wants a new book to read. 101 Horror Books to Read Before You’re Murdered is Sadie’s guide to the horrid books that she loves – the ones that chill her blood, warm her heart and turn her stomach. We talk about her selection process, her blogging origin story, the gatekeeper problem in horror, our shared fear of certain kinds of book and the joy of scary stories featuring kids on bikes. Renew your library card or get ready to buy some books!101 Horror Books to Read Before You’re Murdered was published on August 8th by Page Street PublishingOther books mentioned in this episode include:
The Devil All the Time (2012), by Donald Ray Pollock
Knockemstiff (2008), by Donald Ray Pollock
Come Closer (2003), by Sara Gran
Lord of the Flies (1954), by William Golding
Boys in the Valley (2023), by Philip Fracassi
The Lost Girls of Camp Forevermore (2018), by Kim Fu
Devil’s Creek (2020), by Todd Kiesling
Gather the Daughters (2017), by Jennie Melamed
The Girl Next Door (1989), by Jack Ketchum
Along the Path of Torment (2020), by Chandler Morrison
Apartment 16 (2010), by Adam Neville
Last Days (2012), by Adam Neville
The Reddening (2019), by Adam Neville
Lonesome Dove (1985), by Larry McMurtry
A House with Good Bones (2023), by T. Kingfisher
Number One Fan (2020), by Meg Ellison
House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski
Let the Right One In (2004), by John Ajvide Lindqvist
Betty (2020), by Tiffany McDaniel
On the Savage Side (2023), by Tiffany McDaniel
Whalefall (2023), by Daniel Kraus
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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 10min
155 – Stephen King & Writing From the Nerve Endings
Send us a textOur guest this week is Stephen King.That’s it. That’s the intro.Stephen King. The architect of modern horror and the creative north star of my life, and many of yours. He’s on the show, talking about his new book, Holly and why the central character just won’t let him go. We cover his attitude to academia, horror and hope, how his worldview sits with a fractured reality, and we even hear some exciting, exclusive details about some upcoming books.I lack the words to convey my delight.EnjoyOther books mentioned in this episode include:
The Boy on the Bridge (2017), by M.R. Carey
DMV (2023), by Bentley Little
Mary: An Awakening of Terror (2022), by Nat Cassidy
The Clackity (2022), by Lora Senf
The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (1926), by Agatha Christie
“Beyond the Wall of Sleep,” (1919), by H.P. Lovecraft
The Passenger (2023), by Cormac McCarthy
Light Perpetual (2021), by Francis Spufford
The Deluge (2023), by Stephen Markley
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Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 15min
154 – Alex Woodroe & The Sweet Science of Folk Horror
Send us a textWe’re off on a Goth pilgrimage this week folks, to the motherland, Transylvania, to talk folk-horror and more with Alex Woodroe.Alex is a Romanian writer of dark fictions, the Editor in Chief of Tenebrous Press, and the debut author of Whisperwood. The book brings the monsters of Romanian myth and legend to the fore in a battle of wills with an isolated village. There isn’t a vampire in sight. Bram Stoker didn’t know what he was talking about.Alex does! And we get into lots of things, from the difference between fantasy and folk-legend, political allegory and the recent history of dictatorship, to the very real undead myths in her own family tree.I learned a lot from this conversation.Enjoy!Whisperwood was published by Flame Tree Press on July 11th Support Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 25, 2023 • 1h 28min
153 – Chuck Tingle & Riding the Lonesome Train
Send us a textThis week we’re joined by the man, the myth, the mystery that is Chuck Tingle. Who knows the truth of this enigmatic figure? What visage lies beneath the pink bag that forever encases his face? Does he really have a PhD in massage? Puzzles abound…The one thing that’s certain is the brilliance of his new novel. Camp Damascus is a full-bloodied horror novel set in that most hideous of environs: a religious community and a gay conversion camp. Sounds triggering. It may well be … but Chuck has also invested this story with such hope and joy and yes, LOVE, that it more than salves all the human horror and demonic jump scares.We cover tons in this episode – the stoic seriousness of fictional sex, the maligned trinity of genres, rattling the religious right, the simple trick to writing effective jumpscares and the final, full declaration of why love is real. Enjoy!Camp Damascus was published by Tor Nightfire on July 18th and Titan Books on July 27th An article about Chuck – worth readingOther books mentioned in this episode include:Straight (2021), by Chuck TingleRevival (2014), by Stephen KingDark Matter (2010), by Michelle PaverSupport Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 15min
152 – Andrew Michael Hurley & Our Green, Unpleasant Land
Send us a textThis week I’m recording very close to home with Andrew Michael Hurley. Andrew burst onto the folk-horror scene with subtle aplomb (can one burst subtly?) back in 2014, with The Loney. That slice of weirdness was set in the very town in which I spent my wet, dismal childhood holidays. It conjured shivers in more ways than one. Now he is here to talk about the reissue of his 2019 novel, Starve Acre. It’s a bleak, bitter, wintery tale of isolation, grief and ritual, set in the Yorkshire Dales. Where I also spent some holidays – does Andrew know something I don’t? Hmmmm?We talk about his relationship with folk horror, and how it helps us express our communal British angst. We make comparisons to some unexpected movies, discuss authorial freedom, and talk about deep knowledge, invented lore and horror as replacement for spirituality. It’s all a good excuse to yell about the government. Enjoy!Starve Acre was re-issued by Penguin on July 4th.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
The Loney (2014), by Andrew Michael Hurley
Elmet (2017), by Fiona Mozley
The Gallows Pole (2017), by Benjamin Myers
Waterland (1983), by Graham Swift
Cold Hand in Mine (1975), by Robert Aickman
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Jul 11, 2023 • 1h 11min
151 – Verity Holloway & The Onion Skin of Trauma
Send us a textWar, what is it good for? Absolutely noth…. well actually, it is quite good for horror stories.Our guest this week doesn’t plumb the usual horrors-of-war route, though. Verity Holloway’s The Others of Edenwell is a supremely subtle, slow-burning excavation of trauma and national nightmares, set in a (supposedly) idyllic spa-cum-convalescent-hospital as battle rages elsewhere.Of course, there are horrors much closer to home.It’s possibly my first foray into the First World War on this podcast and Verity and I talk about her family connection to the story, her physical connection to the hospital setting, and her inspirations in the literature of the time. We also discuss cryptozoology, ghost stories, and why German helmets have such a creepy design. Enjoy!The Others of Edenwell was published by Titan on July 4th.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
All the White Spaces (2022), by Ally Wilkes
“Still Falls the Rain” (1944), by Edith Sitwell
Negative Space (2020), by B.R. Yeager
Ghost Eaters (2022), by Clay McLeod Chapman
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Jul 4, 2023 • 1h 3min
150 – Danielle Trussoni & Puzzling All Over the World
Send us a textThis week Danielle Trussoni arrives at Talking Scared in a rush. She has a meeting to get to, and we have LOTS of things to talk about in less than an hour. Her new novel, The Puzzle Master crams in enough for a whole Discovery Channel series on conspiracy, mysticism and esoteric history, plus dolls, Golems, quantum computing and a cute little Dachshund named Conundrum. How is a host supposed to cover all that at a rush. The answer, drink more coffee and don’t pause to breathe!We manage it. We talk about all of the above, plus depictions of altered mental states, the curse of a Dan Brown comparison, and Danielle’s search for the perfect haunted house. Enjoy!The Puzzle Master was published by Penguin Random House on June 13th.Other books mentioned in this episode include:
Angelology (2010) by Danielle Trussoni
Nestlings (2023), by Nat Cassidy
The Long Shalom (2023), by Zach Rosenberg
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Jun 30, 2023 • 1h 37min
149 – Clowns at Midnight – The Big IT Deep-Dive (Part Two), with Ally Malinenko & Nat Cassidy
Send us a textThrust your fists against the post and still insist you see the… …oh hello. You came back. Thank Gan. We have a monster to defeat this week. Yes, this is the second part of the Talking Scared dive into Stephen King’s IT. This time we are getting weird. Joined by stalwart friends, Ally Malinenko (Ghost Girl, This Appearing House) and Nat Cassidy (Mary: An Awakening of Terror), I’m delving below ground and into the cosmic tangle that underpins all of King’s fiction. We’re asking what is Pennywise? Where did he come from? What does he want and what the hell is that giant turtle doing? It has been a labour of love, talking for hours with friends about my favourite book. Thank you so much for listening, and remember… we’re stronger together. Enjoy!Support Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices