Customer Service Revolution | Customer Experience & Employee Experience for Business Leaders

What happens to your customer experience when your best employee calls off? In Episode 273 of the Customer Service Revolution Podcast, Denise Thompson and John DiJulius explore how to eliminate employee roulette and create a consistent customer experience across people, locations, and channels. John breaks down the Customer Experience Cycle: service defects to avoid, nonnegotiable standards to deliver, and opportunities to go above and beyond. Learn why being brilliant at the basics builds trust, how to turn your best employees' habits into teachable standards, and why everboarding and leadership accountability keep training alive. The conversation also explores service aptitude, the risks of rapid growth, and the Zero Risk approach to preparing for predictable problems. Discover how to make your brand promise repeatable while preserving the personal connection customers value. Explore customer experience consulting and the Customer Experience Executive Academy: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/ Schedule a conversation: https://tdg.click/call As mentioned in the episode: Cal DiJulius's wedding tuxedo story in Vogue

Your employees don't experience your organization through its mission statement. They experience it through their leaders. In Episode 272 of the Customer Service Revolution, Denise Thompson talks with Dave Murray, Vice President of Consulting at The DiJulius Group, about the connection between employee experience, leadership and customer experience. Dave shares lessons from his work with PSECU, including why managers must reinforce CX standards after training, how better one-on-ones can change employee relationships, why organizations should examine turnover by department and how recognition from frontline leaders influences engagement. The bigger message: customer experience and employee experience cannot operate independently. The employee experience your company creates eventually becomes the customer experience your customers receive.

When does innovation become a liability? This discussion examines Nike’s direct-to-consumer misstep, Starbucks’ return to its community roots, and how brands like Gap, Peloton, and Harley-Davidson lost connection with loyal customers. It also explores Apple’s patient product strategy, ecosystem loyalty, polarizing brand positions, and how leaders can pursue growth without sacrificing the people who built the brand.

EY’s $100 million investment in human skills sparks a conversation about work after AI. Explore why empathy, judgment, curiosity, and service recovery matter more as routine tasks become automated. The discussion covers service aptitude, misaligned incentives, measuring human behaviors, customer empathy exercises, and a practical 30-day plan for aligning hiring, training, rewards, and customer loyalty.

AI Can Accelerate Your Strategy—But It Cannot Choose Your Direction Before You Implement AI, Align the Experience Companies are moving quickly to implement artificial intelligence, automation and new digital tools. But speed without alignment can create a more efficient version of the wrong customer experience. Before an organization decides what AI should do, its leaders and employees must agree on the experience they are trying to create. A Customer Experience Action Statement, or CXAS, provides that direction. It translates an organization's broad mission, purpose and values into a clear standard employees can intentionally deliver during every customer interaction. In a newly recorded opening to this encore episode, Denise Thompson explains why the topic is especially important now: Before companies implement AI, their employees, departments and leaders must be aligned around the experience the technology is supposed to help deliver. Then, in the original conversation, Denise and customer service authority John DiJulius explain how to create a Customer Experience Action Statement, the three pillars that support it and the systems required to keep it alive long after the launch. What Is a Customer Experience Action Statement? A Customer Experience Action Statement defines what every employee should intentionally achieve whenever they interact with a customer, client, patient, guest or colleague. Unlike a mission statement, it must be actionable, observable and relevant during even the smallest interaction. John explains why a CXAS is not another slogan for the breakroom wall. It is the behavioral North Star that helps employees make consistent decisions, creates organizational alignment and turns a desired customer experience into something leaders can teach, coach and reinforce. The Three Pillars of a Strong CXAS Every effective Customer Experience Action Statement is supported by three memorable pillars: 1. Expertise Employees must be brilliant at the basics. They should have the knowledge, consistency and operational excellence required to help the customer confidently. 2. Human Interaction Customers want to feel seen, heard and cared about—not processed as the next transaction. This pillar defines how employees should intentionally make people feel. 3. Above and Beyond When an opportunity presents itself, employees should be empowered to own the experience, solve a problem or create a memorable moment. John shares examples from The DiJulius Group, KeyBank, Starbucks, Superior Glove, Domino's and John Roberts Spa to demonstrate how organizations turn these pillars into clear, repeatable behaviors. Why a CXAS Must Come Before AI AI can accelerate decisions, communications and service delivery, but it cannot decide what your brand should stand for. Without a shared Customer Experience Action Statement, departments may automate different priorities and customers may receive a faster—but increasingly inconsistent—experience. A CXAS gives leaders a standard against which every AI use case can be evaluated: Does this technology help us deliver the experience we have promised, or does it merely make an internal process more efficient? Creating a Statement Is Only the Beginning The episode also explores why successful customer experience strategies require more than a launch. Organizations must certify employees, measure execution, recognize examples, refresh the language through microlearning and keep the CXAS visible long after the initial excitement disappears. As John explains, world-class customer experience is not a ribbon-cutting ceremony. The statement becomes transformational only when it remains top of mind and influences daily behavior. Work Directly With John DiJulius and Dave Murray on September 14 On September 14 from noon to 2:00 p.m. Eastern, John DiJulius and Dave Murray will lead a live, interactive Experience Revolution Membership session focused on creating and implementing a Customer Experience Action Statement that is actionable, observable and capable of driving consistent results. Participants will have the opportunity to work directly with John and Dave to develop or strengthen their organization's CXAS. Register or join the Experience Revolution Membership: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/membership/ Key Takeaways AI will accelerate whatever direction an organization is already heading, including the wrong one. A Customer Experience Action Statement should guide how every employee approaches every interaction. A CXAS must be actionable, observable, memorable and relevant to daily work. Mission statements and purpose statements are important, but they do not tell frontline employees exactly how to behave. A strong CXAS is supported by three pillars: expertise, human interaction and above-and-beyond service. Operational excellence and human connection must happen consistently; above-and-beyond moments happen when the opportunity presents itself. Three pillars are easier for employees to remember, apply and reinforce. A CXAS should guide employees internally rather than operate as an external advertising slogan. Launching the CXAS is the easy part; certification, accountability, measurement and reinforcement make it sustainable. Every proposed AI application should be evaluated against the experience the organization has committed to delivering. Quotes From the Episode "The Customer Experience Action Statement is what each and every employee should intentionally be doing every time they interact with someone else." —John DiJulius "This changes the culture. This is transformational." —John DiJulius "The only thing my employees better know verbatim is the Customer Experience Action Statement." —John DiJulius "I want someone that makes me feel like a human being—not next, not a transaction. I feel seen and heard." —John DiJulius "The first two have to happen every time: Be brilliant at the basics, and make me feel like a human being." —John DiJulius "There's magic in three." —John DiJulius "Achieving world-class status is not a ribbon-cutting ceremony." —John DiJulius "The Customer Experience Action Statement and pillars are a game changer. They ignite your revolution." —John DiJulius Chapters 00:00 Introduction to The Customer Service Revolution 03:30 Denise and John Reconnect 03:58 Creating Sandals' Customer Experience Action Statement 04:16 What Is a Customer Experience Action Statement? 05:51 Why Mission Statements and Core Values Are Not Enough 09:05 The Structure of a CXAS 12:28 Why Every CXAS Needs Three Pillars 13:15 Examples From TDG, Superior Glove and KeyBank 18:18 How to Start Creating Your CXAS 20:40 The Six Steps Required to Sustain It 22:45 Keeping the CXAS Visible and Top of Mind 26:07 Drawing a Line in the Sand for Customer Experience 26:31 Kindness, Human Connection and Final Thoughts Links: Experience Revolution Membership: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/membership/ The DiJulius Group Methdology: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/x-commandment-methodology/ Company Service Aptitude Test: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/c-sat-forms/individual-c-sat/ Schedule a Complimentary Call with one of our advisors: tdg.click/claudia Ask John! Submit your questions for John, to be aired on future episode: tdg.click/ask Customer Experience Executive Academy: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/project/cx-executive-academy/ Books: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/shop/ Contacts: [email protected] , [email protected] If you want to learn how world-class organizations build cultures customers cannot live without, explore The Experience Revolution Membership. Inside the membership you'll gain access to livestream workshops, practical frameworks, and proven strategies used by organizations around the world. Learn more at https://thedijuliusgroup.com/membership/ Learn More If your organization is working to improve customer experience but struggling to connect it to measurable business outcomes, The DiJulius Group can help. 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The Customer Service Department Is Dead: What the Future Service-Centric Organization Looks Like Customer service cannot remain the department responsible for cleaning up problems created by the rest of the company. If an organization is serious about becoming service-centric, every department must understand how its decisions shape the customer experience—and one accountable leader must ensure the entire system works. In Episode 268 of the Customer Service Revolution Podcast, Denise Thompson and John R. DiJulius III examine what the future service-centric organization will look like as AI reshapes customer behavior, frontline roles, organizational design, and the economics of service. The future will not belong to the company with the fastest chatbot or the fewest employees. It will belong to the organization that uses technology to remove friction behind the scenes while making the experience more human in front of the customer. Customer Experience Must Be Enterprise-Wide—but Someone Still Has to Own It "Customer experience is everyone's responsibility" sounds inspiring, but it can become an excuse for having no accountability. John argues that successful organizations need a clear experience champion—someone who loses sleep over the experience and has the authority, KPIs, and executive access to challenge decisions that could hurt customers or employees. In a large enterprise, that may be a chief experience officer supported by a customer experience department. In a smaller organization, it may be a shared role assigned to an HR, training, operations, or other senior leader. The title matters less than the clarity of the mandate, the time committed to it, and the metrics tied to it. The role should also extend beyond the customer. A truly service-centric organization manages the entire experience ecosystem: customer experience, employee experience, and vendor experience. AI Should Remove Friction, Not Humanity AI is changing customer service, but using it only to reduce headcount can create expensive unintended consequences. Gartner predicts that by 2027, half of the companies that cut customer service staff because of AI will rehire people to perform similar functions under different titles. Gartner has also reported that only 20% of customer service leaders had reduced agent staffing because of AI. As AI handles routine questions, human employees inherit the escalations, emotional customers, sensitive conversations, and high-stakes decisions. That work can be more meaningful—but also far more demanding. Organizations must protect employees from empathy fatigue, make access to a human easier, and train people in the skills technology cannot replace: empathy, curiosity, listening, rapport building, judgment, and the ability to defuse an upset customer. Your Customer May Send an AI Agent Instead of Visiting Your Website The customer journey may no longer begin on a company's website, app, or contact center. Gartner found that customers were approximately three times more likely to use a third-party generative AI tool than a company-provided chatbot when trying to resolve a service issue. Among customers who already used generative AI, 58% had used it to complete a task—not merely find information—and that figure reached 74% in B2B settings. That creates a new strategic threat: the company can become invisible while an outside AI platform recommends brands, compares choices, completes purchases, and resolves problems. Technology is easy for competitors to copy. Human connection, trust, community, and a distinctive brand experience are harder to duplicate. Access to a Human Could Become the Next Competitive Advantage Pega research found that 77% of consumers believed they always or often achieved better outcomes when dealing only with a human, while two-thirds preferred human-led support. Nearly half said they did not trust businesses that used AI to handle customer service interactions completely. Despite that preference, many organizations continue to make people fight through layers of self-service before reaching an employee. John's answer is blunt: a customer should be able to reach a human when the customer wants to. Companies that preserve convenient human access—and equip those employees to deliver empathy, expertise, and judgment—may be able to turn humanity itself into a powerful brand differentiator. Personalization Without Integrity Becomes Exploitation More customer data creates more opportunities to personalize an experience, but not every technically possible use of data is ethical. The public controversy over Delta Air Lines' AI-supported pricing illustrated how quickly personalization can be perceived as surveillance pricing. Using customer knowledge to anticipate a need or make someone feel cared for is service. Using a customer's identity, vulnerability, income, or presumed willingness to pay to extract the highest possible price is exploitation. Customers should be allowed to choose and pay for clearly defined service levels; businesses should not quietly decide that a particular customer can be charged more. Integrity cannot become collateral damage in the race to personalize. The Best Model Is People-Led and Technology-Powered Walmart and Starbucks offer a more promising blueprint. Walmart has introduced AI tools designed to support approximately 1.5 million U.S. associates, including real-time translation and technology that reduced shift-planning time from 90 minutes to 30 minutes. Starbucks' Green Apron Service model combines staffing, workflow improvements, and technology to give employees more time for craft and customer connection. These organizations are not presenting technology as the experience. They are positioning it as the infrastructure that helps people deliver the experience. That is where AI creates real value: transcribing workshop notes, organizing information, handling repetitive tasks, accelerating internal processes, and giving employees more time to think, connect, and solve. Stop Measuring Speed at the Expense of Loyalty Average handle time, ticket volume, and cost per contact can reward speed while quietly damaging the relationship. Fast service that makes a customer feel dismissed is not a win. Neither is a warm interaction that fails to solve the problem. The future service-centric organization must measure both efficiency and experience. John recommends tracking earned sales growth—the percentage of business generated through repeat customers and referrals rather than purchased through advertising—along with the operational and experience measures that explain why loyalty is rising or falling. The most important question is not simply, "Was the issue resolved?" It is, "How did the customer feel after doing business with us?" What Leaders Should Build Now The future service-centric organization will: Assign one accountable experience champion with clear authority, priorities, KPIs, and executive access. Make every department responsible for understanding its internal or external customer and its effect on the end experience. Use AI for repetitive, administrative, and low-risk work while preserving human judgment for sensitive, ethical, financial, and health-related decisions. Train employees continuously in AI readiness and service aptitude skills. Give frontline employees the authority to solve problems without unnecessary permission-seeking. Protect easy access to a skilled human whenever a customer wants or needs one. Measure loyalty, repeat business, referrals, complaints, certainty, and customer outcomes—not speed alone. Refuse uses of customer data that exploit vulnerability or presumed ability to pay. Build strong customer service systems first, then layer AI on top of them. Customer service may stop being a department, but service must become the operating system of the entire company. Chapters 00:59 — Why the customer service department is dead 01:51 — Enterprise-wide ownership still needs one accountable champion 05:06 — Does every company need a chief experience officer? 07:34 — Breaking silos through cross-functional CX leadership 08:26 — Are companies using AI to improve service or cut headcount? 11:14 — The new role of the human service professional 13:30 — Preventing escalation overload and empathy fatigue 15:17 — When customers send third-party AI to handle your company 19:36 — Will access to a human become a premium service? 23:08 — Why community and brand experience are returning 26:11 — AI costs, disappearing entry-level roles, and the talent pipeline 30:14 — Walmart, Starbucks, and the people-led, tech-powered model 34:03 — Personalization, surveillance, and the integrity line 38:59 — Which traditional customer service metrics now work against CX? 42:23 — A practical blueprint for leadership, employees, technology, and measurement 48:05 — The first question every CEO should ask Key Takeaways Customer experience can be enterprise-wide without becoming leaderless; one person must still own the system and its results. AI creates the most value when it removes repetitive work and gives employees more time for judgment, empathy, and connection. Automating simple interactions can leave human agents with a relentless stream of emotionally difficult cases, increasing the risk of empathy fatigue. Third-party AI platforms may become the new front door to the customer journey, making a distinctive human brand experience even more important. Easy access to a knowledgeable human can become a powerful competitive advantage. Personalization crosses the line when customer data is used to exploit vulnerability or presumed willingness to pay. Metrics such as average handle time can produce unintended behavior when they are not balanced with loyalty, customer outcomes, repeat business, and referrals. A company needs clear service systems before it layers AI onto the customer experience. Quotes "Someone has to lose sleep at night over the experience the company is providing." — John R. DiJulius III "When answers are everywhere, questions become the scarce resource." — John R. DiJulius III "When the world gets more artificial, we need to become more human." — John R. DiJulius III "The more digital we become, the more human is the competitive advantage." — John R. DiJulius III "Integrity shouldn't be something that is outdated." — John R. DiJulius III "EX equals CX. Employee experience equals customer experience." — John R. DiJulius III "Customer service may stop being a department, but service must become the operating system of the entire company." — Denise Thompson Resources Mentioned in This Episode Gartner: Half of companies that cut customer service staff because of AI will rehire by 2027 Gartner: 85% of service leaders are expanding human-agent responsibilities Gartner: Customers are three times more likely to use third-party GenAI than company chatbots Pega: Consumers demand more from AI-powered customer service PwC: 2025 Customer Experience Survey Walmart: AI-powered tools for 1.5 million associates Starbucks: Green Apron Service and improved service performance Delta Air Lines: Response regarding AI-supported pricing Links: ROX Dashboard: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/rox-dashboard/ The DiJulius Group Methdology: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/x-commandment-methodology/ Company Service Aptitude Test: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/c-sat-forms/individual-c-sat/ Schedule a Complimentary Call with one of our advisors: tdg.click/claudia Ask John! Submit your questions for John, to be aired on future episode: tdg.click/ask Customer Experience Executive Academy: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/project/cx-executive-academy/ Experience Revolution Membership: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/membership/ Books: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/shop/ Contacts: [email protected] , [email protected] If you want to learn how world-class organizations build cultures customers cannot live without, explore The Experience Revolution Membership. Inside the membership you'll gain access to livestream workshops, practical frameworks, and proven strategies used by organizations around the world. Learn more at https://thedijuliusgroup.com/membership/ Learn More If your organization is working to improve customer experience but struggling to connect it to measurable business outcomes, The DiJulius Group can help. Visit: https://thedijuliusgroup.com Listen to more episodes: https://thedijuliusgroup.com/the-customer-service-revolution-podcast/ Subscribe We talk about topics like this each week; be sure to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss an episode.

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They expose the “friction tax” of buried cancel buttons, hoops to return items, and hard-to-reach support. They discuss how companies manufacture friction to protect short-term revenue and the long-term trust damage that follows. They cover tools to detect hidden friction, the toll unfair policies take on frontline staff, and concrete checks leaders can run this week to reduce customer effort.