Psychology & The Cross

Jungian Analyst Jakob Lusensky
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Aug 29, 2021 • 59min

E5 Imitatio Faust: Jung, Goethe and the question of secular redemption with Paul Bishop

"I’ve learned an awful lot from Jung. I feel I have an immense debt of gratitude to him, in that way, in that, if you read Jung, you’re really getting a little education in itself. What Jung is trying to do is to reinvest that notion of redemption with meaning. Not in a way that abandons its theological term, but to make it meaningful: an existential redemption in a world where God is dead."Episode description:Paul Bishop is a renowned British scholar who has spent the last twenty-five years researching and writing on the foundational relationship between C.G Jung and Friedrich Nietzsche and Johann Wolfgang Goethe. In this episode, we dive into Jung’s relationship to both these figures but with a special emphasis on the latter and the legend Faust as an archetypal motif. Goethe's Faust struck a chord in Jung and its foundational story when trying to understand Jung’s own inner struggles, motivations, creative contributions, and wrestling with the religious question. We explore an “Imitatio Fausti” in contrast to an “Imitatio Christi” and the seeking for psychological transformation. How the question of finding redemption in a secularized world is portrayed in the story Faust, and transmitted through Jung’s life and psychology.Subscribe on YoutubeMusic played in this episode:'One has another' and 'Blue Violets' by Ketsa. Licensed under creativecommons.org by NC-ND 4.0.
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Aug 12, 2021 • 55min

E4 Bowing before the mystery: Islam & individuation with Bernard Sartorius

Islam basically is acceptance. And this acceptance is not exactly identical with the Christian faith. Islam has—this is what interests me very much—in the Islamic perception of the mystery, I would say it is more open to the mystery: that God can also destroy. There’s no happy end guaranteed.Episode description:Bernard Sartorius is a Jungian Analyst based in Zurich and a scholar of Islamic Studies. In this episode, we’re investigating individuation and Islamic faith, in relation to Christianity. We discuss psychological agnosticism, religious fundamentalism, and Jung’s difficulties with surrendering. How Jung, in the context of a dream shared in the biography ‘Memories, dreams, reflections', grapples with bowing in front of the mystery.Subscribe on YoutubeMusic played in this episode:‘Roam’, ‘Chrystal life’ and ‘Aimless by Ketsa. Licensed under creativecommons.org by NC-ND 4.0.Recommended dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBa_nu0kPY&t=32s
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Jul 24, 2021 • 6min

E3x Dreaming the dream onward with Sean McGrath

In this extra material to the third episode of Psychology & The Cross, philosopher and theology professor Sean McGrath speak on how to advance the Jungian paradigm and what is needed to "dream the dream forward". McGrath also talks of how he thinks that Professor Sonu Shamdasani single-handedly made Jung academically respectful as well as in his belief that it's the analysands and analysts that can advance the paradigm. Last but not least, we discuss the role of the Red Book and how the proper response to is is to make your own. 
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Jul 9, 2021 • 6min

E3x Wolfgang Giegerich & The limits of Psychology and with Sean McGrath

What are the obstacles when trying to bridge the psychology of C.G Jung and Christianity? The obstacle according to Philosopher Sean McGrath is 'psychological absolutism'.In this extra material from the third episode of the podcast 'Psychology & The Cross' Professor McGrath discusses the work of Wolfgang Giegerich, the limitations of psychology, and Jung as a guerilla theorist.Subscribe on Youtube:https://bit.ly/3sXloJb
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Jun 17, 2021 • 55min

E3 This is not the end of the road: C.G Jung & Theology with Sean J McGrath

At the end of the day, psychological integration is not salvation. And I think that most people who have done the work will be ready enough to concede that. This is not the end of the road, it’s not salvation. What do we want? We don’t want just integrated individuals, but we want a redeemed order of being, we want justice on earth.Episode description:Sean McGrath is a Professor of Philosophy and Theology, a researcher of the philosophical roots of psychoanalysis, and a former professed Catholic Monk. In this episode, McGrath shares some of his learnings from the monastery, before helping us to understand how C.G Jung (mis)understood evil, and the role of the feminine in Christianity. MLast, but not least, McGrath helps us to connect how inner work and individuation link to the actions in the outer world: how by laying down your life for your community you might find the inner peace that you seek. Subscribe on YoutubeMusic played in this episode ‘Bed’ by Ketsa, ‘Amsterdam’ and ‘Amsterdam Blac Koyote Remix’ by Lasers licensed under creativecommons.org by NC-ND 4.0.
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May 27, 2021 • 4min

E2xx Kierkegaard and Jung on anxiety, despair & neurosis

In this extra material to episode 2 of Psychology & The Cross scholar Amy Cook explains Kierkegaard and Jung's views on anxiety, despair and neurosis and the potential held in mental suffering. 
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May 15, 2021 • 4min

E2x Kierkegaard & Jung on the therapeutic value of Faith

My conversation with Amy Cook about Kierkegaard and Jung in the episode of Psychology & The Cross was so rich. I, therefore, decided to share some extra material highlighting specific topics discussed in her book, ‘Jung & Kierkegaard – Researching a kindred spirit in the shadows’. In this short segment, Amy explains both Kierkegaard and Jung's views on 'the therapeutic value of faith'.
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Apr 30, 2021 • 52min

E2 Jungian psychology is ripe for existentialism: C.G Jung & Søren Kierkegaard with Amy Cook

Kierkegaard has a lot to say about self-deception. He has a lot to say about how resilient our self-deceptions are. He has an awful lot to say about authenticity… I think what Jungian psychology really needs, is a Kierkegaard.Episode description:For this episode, I had the pleasure to speak to scholar Amy Cook who’s written a bold and beautiful book comparing the psychological projects of the Danish philosopher and Christian existentialist Søren Kierkegaard and Carl Gustav Jung. Amy helps us shed new light on the Jungian psychological project by comparing it to Kierkegaards, who she describes as a shadow figure of Jung. The conversation dives into the relationship between knowledge, religious experience, and belief, Jung’s own struggle with his Christian faith, and their respective renderings of individuation and the imitatio Christi.Subscribe on Youtube Music played in this episode is licensed under creativecommons.org:'Ketsa - Hard sell'‘Ketsa - No light without darkness’‘The Psychiatry - Sickness unto death’
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Mar 12, 2021 • 12min

E1x Building the temple: A dream of Jungian Analyst Max Zeller told by Murray Stein

In our first episode, Dr. Murray Stein spoke of Jung's vision that a new religion will take form in about six hundred years. The context for this statement is a dream that Berliner Jungian analyst Max Zeller (who later emigrated to Los Angeles) shared with C.G Jung when they met in Zurich in 1949. In this bonus material of that episode Stein shares this story and comments on it. It was first published in Psychological perspectives, 1975 (The journal of the Jung Institute of Los Angeles).Subscribe on Youtube
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Feb 23, 2021 • 56min

E1 The invisible Church: Jung's treatment of Christianity with Murray Stein

Murray Stein, a distinguished Jungian psychoanalyst and author, delves into the intersection of Jungian psychology and Christianity. He reveals his journey from minister to analyst, emphasizing how Jung's insights address contemporary spiritual needs. Stein discusses Jung's concept of the 'invisible church' and the evolving landscape of Christianity amid societal shifts. He also explores Jung's vision of a new, inclusive religion that integrates various spiritual traditions, and the balance between individuality and collectivity in personal faith.

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