

Earthlings 2.0 Podcast
Lisa Ann Pinkerton
The Earthlings Podcast takes a look at the big issues facing humanity in the early 21st century and our relationship to our environment, technology, and each other. Each episode, award-winning journalist, and former NPR reporter Lisa Ann Pinkerton hosts experts, scientists, and leaders working to solve the world’s biggest challenges. Together, they cover wide-ranging topics including environmental solutions, emerging technologies, what the future might look like, and more.
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Apr 2, 2023 • 1h 15min
#16: Life at 3° C with Dr. Bill Mcguire, Dr. Camille Paramsean, Dr. Edmon Totin, and Dr. Peter Howard
You are living on a planet that is 1.1°C hotter than 100 years ago. By 2100, your future family members could be living in a 3°C world. This means mass deaths from extreme heat. Failing agriculture and food scarcity. Lack of drinkable water. Mass climate migration. Cities underwater. Civil unrest, and other dangers that you may not have even thought about. It’s not IF these things will happen, it’s how soon and how bad it will get. Buckle up.In this episode, we look at the path we are currently on and attempt to illustrate what daily life could be like as the earth warms to 3°C. We explore where we might adapt and where adaptation could be impossible. With our four guests, we look at just how dependent we are on natural systems and talk about what will happen as these systems break down. We explore the changes that are already happening in food production and what we will have to do as temperatures rise and weather patterns shift, and speak to how the climate crisis is going to change myriad other aspects of our lives on Earth. Our guests are some of the top scientists and economists who have studied these issues for decades, written sections of IPCC reports, and books, and compiled meta-studies of existing literature. Each one echoes the same message - Life at 3°C is very, very bad: but that doesn’t mean it’s inevitable. While there is still time to prevent further danger, the window is closing.In this episode, our guests include: Dr. Bill McGuire, Emeritus Professor of Geophysical & Climate Hazards at University College London, author of several books including Hothouse Earth.Dr. Camielle Paramsean, Professor at CNRS (SETE - Experimental and Theoretical Ecology)Dr. Edmond Totin, Research Scientist at ICRISATDr. Peter Howard, Economic Fellow at Institute for Policy IntegrityResources: Hothouse Earth (Bill McGuire)Ministry for the Future (Kim Stanley Robinson)The Sixth Extinction (Elizabeth Kolbert)Special Report: Global Warming of 1.5C (IPCC)Extreme Heat Will Change Us (New York Times)UN Emissions Gap Report 2022 covers how policies currently in place point to a 2.8°C temperature rise by the end of the century.Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (National Weather Service)IPCC 6th Assessment Climate Change 2022: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability - Authors Camille Parmesan (Chapter 2: Terrestrial and freshwater ecosystems and their services), Edmond Totin (Chapter 9: Africa) Websites:Earthlings Podcast WebsiteEarthlings LinkedIn and TwitterCNRSInternational Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) Institute for Policy Integrity, New York University School of LawTechnica CommunicationsWomen in Cleantech and Sustainability

Feb 8, 2023 • 1h
#15: Space Inc. with Neeraj Gupta, Ryan Hartman, and Marcia Smith
Humanity is moving into space, and our businesses are coming with us. In recent years we have seen the beginnings of a new wave of human activity in space, from new commercial ventures, to exploration and even space tourism. But what does the future of our species in space look like? And will we recreate our problems and carry our political dysfunction with us into the final frontier?Join us for the latest episode of Earthlings Podcast as we ask these and more questions about our collective journey. We will look at current plans and challenges to building a commercial space station and explore the potentially life-changing experience of visiting space as a tourist. Finally, we will examine how terrestrial politics are being translated into space, and look at thorny issues of who will control and exploit resources on the moon and other celestial bodies.Our guests:Neeraj Gupta, general manager and SVP of Space Destinations at Sierra SpaceRyan Hartman, president and CEO at World ViewMarcia Smith, founder and editor of SpacePolicyOnline.comResources:Artemis AccordsMoon AgreementWebsites:Sierra SpaceWorld ViewSpacePolicyOnlinefA8nstH8K7g9WQRowW6dfA8nstH8K7g9WQRowW6dfA8nstH8K7g9WQRowW6dfA8nstH8K7g9WQRowW6d

Dec 21, 2022 • 57min
#14: Electrification: The Smart Home Upgrade with Ari Matusiak, Alex Bazhinov, and Claire Broido Johnson
The home of the future is electric and dynamic. In this episode, we look at the how-to of smart home electrification and the integrations coming to maximize the transformation from the ordinary home to a live-in power plant. And we explore how the US federal government is providing incentives for home upgrades like heat pumps and induction stoves, With our guests, we examine how homes are moving to a future of generating their own power, storing it and selling it to their neighbor or back to the grid. This includes an exploration of how car owners can get paid to provide grid services using their batteries. And in this winter of skyrocketing oil and gas prices, we bring a pathway to significantly save on energy costs while reducing greenhouse gas emissions, mitigating the risk of blackouts, and more. Without leaving your front door.In this episode, our guests include: Ari Matusiak, co-founder and CEO, Rewiring AmericaAlex Bazhinov, founder, president and COO, LuminClaire Broido Johnson, COO, Fermata EnergyResources: IRA Savings Calculator Websites: Rewiring AmericaLumin Energy Fermata Energy Thanks to Yan Mora and Eduardo Prosperi for audio editing.

Nov 16, 2022 • 1h 4min
#13: Chilling Out Urban Mobility with Melinda Hanson, Carlos Pardo, and Charlie Welch
E-bikes, e-scooters, and other forms of micromobility are changing how we get around cities and cities. In this episode, we examine multiple angles of this change to smaller, more efficient forms of transportation, looking at the benefits to individual riders and how and why we can change cities to allow people to meet their travel needs more efficiently. We also explore the danger of fires from today’s lithium-ion batteries and new chemistry that could make micromobility safer. In this episode, our guests include: Melinda Hanson, co-founder of Electric Avenue and the Equitable Commute Project: Getting e-bikes into the hands of low-income people and how this can change livesCarlos Pardo, senior advisor to the New Urban Mobility Alliance: Working with cities to accommodate simpler forms of mobility and better meet the needs of residents - and Bogota’s experience doing thisCharlie Welch, co-founder and CEO of ZappBatt: Lithium-titanate battery chemistry and how it can help to make e-bike batteries safer and shared micromobility more efficientResources:The Equitable Commute Project The Banality of Joyfulness (in Transportation) by Carlos PardoLithium-titanate could prove the new driver of micromobility by Charlie WelchHow to Prevent an E-Bike Fire (Consumer Reports)Websites:Electric Avenue ZapbattNew Urban Mobility Alliance Thanks to audio editors Yan Mora and Eduardo Prosperi, and special thanks to Zachary Subin of RMI for research support.

Nov 1, 2022 • 59min
#12: Flying the Sustainable Skies with Graham Warwick, Val Miftakhov, and Blain Newton
The future of flight is evolving. From battery electric airplanes to hydrogen power to sustainable aviation fuels, new technologies are opening up new vistas of what is possible. As an industry, airlines and aircraft manufacturers are informally aiming to make aviation net zero by 2050. But decarbonizing how we fly people and goods isn’t just about new airplane technology; it requires new fueling and charging infrastructure and new business models. In Flying the Sustainable Skies, co-hosts Lisa Ann Pinkerton (former NPR reporter) and Christian Roselund (formerly of Rocky Mountain Institute, Pacifica) explore this new Golden Age of Aviation with three guests with different perspectives on how this new future will evolve. We start at 10,000 feet with Graham Warwick, Senior Editor of Aviation Week. He covers the basics of sustainable aviation fuels and synth fuels that today’s planes can burn to make their flights carbon-neutral without disrupting engine design or airline operations. Next, serial entrepreneur, pilot, founder and CEO of ZeroAvia Val Miftakhov outlines the potential for hydrogen-electric aviation, how it works, and his vision of green hydrogen hubs at airports to power the planes. Finally, Blain Newton, COO of Beta Technologies, demonstrates how battery-electric airplanes are running actual cargo missions today for real customers. He illustrates how the fuel independence of electric flight opens up new possibilities for flying that were previously unimaginable. Subjects Discussed: Sustainable Aviation Fuel or SAFsThe carbon accounting of SAFs Hydrogen fuel cell airplanesHydrogen combustion to power airplanesBattery electric airplanes Electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) technologies The need for new aircraft designs The limits of different zero-emission technologiesGreen hydrogen Why renewable power for zero-emission aviation is expected to be available at very low costRegulations necessary to certify new configurations and aircraft designs Airlines and large companies invested in and working to develop zero-emission aviationThe economic benefits of electric aviation for companies and the military ResourcesAviation WeekBeta Technologies - Alia Flies to BentonvilleZeroAvia - Dornier228 High-Speed Taxi Testing

Oct 18, 2022 • 58min
#11: Plastic Diet with Patricia Kombo, Kam Sripada, and Beth Rattner
Plastic is everywhere. And it could be making you sick. As higher concentrations of microplastic particles are found throughout the world, in the air, soils and water, more and more research is suggesting that all this plastic could have negative health impacts, including on babies, children, and our ability to have children. This is particularly a danger for the Global South, which is suffering disproportionately from plastic pollution.In Plastic Diet, co-hosts Lisa Ann Pinkerton (former NPR reporter) and Christian Roselund (formerly of Rocky Mountain Institute, Pacifica) look at where plastic waste comes from, where it goes (hint: not some magical “away” place), what’s in it, and what research tells us it is likely doing to our bodies. And we look at what we can do about it, including how we can design for a different world without plastic pollution.Plastic Diet features UN-recognized Land Hero, social entrepreneur, and journalist Patricia Kombo, scientist and researcher Kam Sripada, centre manager at the Centre for Digital Life Norway, and Beth Rattner, the executive director of the Biomimicry Institute.Subjects discussedSources of plastic pollutionImpact of plastic pollution on the Global SouthDocumented health risks from toxins in plasticsStatus of research on health effects of plastic pollutionChallenges in studying health impacts of microplastics and nanoplasticsThe false promise of recycling as a solution to plastic pollutionFashion’s role in microplastic pollution Techniques for redesigning textiles to mimic nature Plastic-eating fungus, (yes, you heard us- a new magic mushroom)Alternatives to single-use plastics (a.k.a. Milk ATMs)Resources/LinksDo away with plastic additives wreaking havoc on our health (Patricia Kombo, The Standard)Report: A Children’s Health Perspective on Nano- and Microplastics (Kam Sripada et al.)Report: Nature of Fashion (Biomimicry Institute)Report: The Real Truth About the U.S. Plastics Recycling Rate (Beyond Plastics, The Last Beach Cleanup)Also: Want more information about children’s health, microplastics, and other environmental hazards? Check out Little Things Matter, where Kam and an international team of scientist-advocates share the latest research and tips for families to reduce their exposures. You can find videos and more information on their website: littlethingsmatter.ca/

Oct 4, 2022 • 58min
#10: Living with Wildfires with Dustin Mulvaney, Molly Hunter, Tim Barat, and Carrick Detweiler
Wildfires in the 21st Century feel more intense, burning more acres, taking more lives, and encroaching closer to where people live. And they are raising big questions about how we can live close to nature when that means the risk of fire. In this show, we look at what is causing these megafires, whether or not their size and intensity are really a new phenomenon, and how we can learn to adapt and live with wildfires, discovering solutions both indigenous and high-tech.Living with Wildfire features guests Dustin Mulvaney, Santa Cruz resident, environmental scientist, and amateur forest documentarian, Molly Hunter, Associate Research Professor at the University of Arizona and science advisor to the Joint Fire Science Program, Tim Barat, the co-founder & CEO of GridWare, and Carrick Detweiler, the CEO of Drone Amplified.Talking pointsFirst-hand accounts of what it was like to live near the 2020 CZU Lighting Complex Fires in CaliforniaThe history of wildfires in the United StatesFactors causing increased & more intense wildfiresThe ecology of the forest and how it has evolved to depend on firesPrescribed burns, intentional fires & other management techniquesNew technology to help prevent catastrophic fires and protect the lives of fire crewsResources/LinksDustin Mulvaney’s work on the Six Fifty dot comJoint Fire Science Program

May 24, 2022 • 29min
#9: Bonus Who Are We Anyway?
We’ve received a number of questions from listeners, asking us about ourselves and what we do. So here's a bonus episode on our journey, ourselves, and the origin story of this podcast. We also go into our plan for Earthlings.Talking Points:Who is Lisa Ann? What is her background?Christian’s journey and backgroundHow did we meet?Why did we start the Earthlings podcast?What do we plan to cover in future episodes? Resources/Links:The RMI article that started it allPromo video of the WCS EventLisa Ann Pinkerton: LinkedInTwitterTechnica CommunicationsWomen in Cleantech and SustainabilityChristian Roselund:LinkedInTwitterRMI

May 10, 2022 • 1h 2min
#8: How Green Is Your Steel? with Thomas Koch Blank, Anders Wiliamsson, and Anne-Claire Howard
How do you make steel without cooking the planet? What is "green steel"?Steel is a fundamental part of our world, but the process we use to make it is inherently carbon-intensive. In this latest episode, we talk about new developments in both the production of fossil-free steel and how it is making its way to global markets with experts Thomas Koch Blank, Anders Williamsson, and Anne-Claire Howard.Chiefly, we discuss the implications of a new, cleaner process being used in Sweden to make fossil-free steel using hydrogen. We also examine what this means for both the global steel industry and consumers, as well as the timeframe for green steel take over brown steel.Thomas Koch Blank is a global expert on green steel and senior principal at RMI's Climate Aligned Industries program. Anders Williamsson is an executive VP and head of industrial operations at Swedish truck maker Scania. Anne-Claire Howard was the chief executive officer of Responsible Steel at the time of the recording. She has since moved on to a different role as the director of procurement at the UNOPS.About us: Earthlings Podast looks at the decisions that we can make today to ensure that the future we have is one we want to live in. Hosts Lisa Ann Pinkerton (former award-winning NPR and PBS environmental science reporter) and Christian Roselund (founding editor of pv magazine USA) take a close look at our relationships with technology, science, the planet, and each other.Talking Points:Why is the steel-making process such a carbon-intensive process?The process of using hydrogen to make steelDevelopments in hydrogen-based steelmaking in SwedenRecycled steel versus primary steelThe prospects for direct reduced iron made with hydrogenVolvo’s first autonomous electric mining vehicle with green steelScania’s use of green steelAt what time will green steel take over brown steel?Which sectors are the most effective uses of hydrogenThe potential for a differentiated market for green steelCarbon pricing and how that plays a role in the production of steelResources/Links:“Volvo unveils world’s first vehicle using fossil-free steel” video“The Story of TARA | Volvo Group's autonomous electric dumper TA15” videoScaniaResponsible SteelRMI Climate Aligned IndustriesUNOPS

Apr 26, 2022 • 54min
#7: The Psychedelic Therapist Will See You Now with Ronan Levy
In the 21st Century, experts predict the growth of mental health treatments using psychedelics for clinical treatment of disorders such as depression, PTSD, bipolar disorder, anxiety, and other challenges. Blossoming out of an extensive body of well-respected research, medical professionals are now using psychedelics as a tool for treatment-resistant disorders where pharmaceuticals may have failed to provide people with long-term healing. Today, ketamine is a legal and broadest available treatment option, while psilocybin and MDMA are on their path to gaining legal status in the U.S. In this episode, we discuss the extensive research and potential benefits that can be achieved with ketamine with Ronan Levy from Field Trip Health. In the Earthlings podcast, we talk about the challenges and opportunities coming in the 21st Century, and the information we have today to make better decisions for tomorrow. Hosts Lisa Ann Pinkerton (former award-winning NPR and PBS environmental science reporter) and Christian Roselund (founding editor of PV Magazine USA) take a close look at our relationships with technology, science, the planet, and each other. Talking Points:The history of psychedelics in American societyThe research behind the effectiveness and use of KetamineTransformative mental health with ketaminePsychological and physiological effects of ketamine Ketamine and psychedelic medication in the futureThe most important, recent studies about psychedelicsThe work that Field Trip Health doesAn example of treatment with psychedelics The changing perspectives of psychedelicsResources/Links:Compass PathwaysField Trip HealthField Tripping Podcast