Life After MLM

You asked, and we answered! In this bonus episode, I talk to AntiMLM Advocate, "Not the Good Girl", Josie Naikoi about her time in MLM as the Top 1%, and our favorite topic to ramble on about, the BITE model.Show NotesNot the Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw/featuredCombatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan - https://amzn.to/3uLhYco"Because of Deanne" - https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseofdeanne/TikTok Hun - https://www.tiktok.com/@danascentedlifestyle/video/6885071802985467137?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6939536475465729541When not even giving birth can slow down a hun. - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/chic0f/when_not_even_giving_birth_can_slow_down_a_hun/Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As if his story in part one couldn't get any weirder, in part two Russ tells us about his experience of heading to a big ACN convention where Donald Trump, star of The Apprentice, would be speaking at. He recounts his trip, including fudge inspired doowop, and odd encounter with an employee in the lobby of McDonalds. We get deep into the celebrity and political affiliations with ACN, how men are targeted by MLMs, and getting out of the MLM Complex.Show NotesExperience the excitement of ACN events! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EQNcnx7AZgACN Convention circa 2006 - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x317owI couldn't find "My Fudge", but please enjoy this other Fudge Parody of "Runaround Sue" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfQuYA2Yd4This is a Pro-MLM article about celebs and MLM's, but it makes great points as to why these scams appeal to celebs and the predatory use of the "opportunity"; Why Celebrities are Partnering with Network Marketing Companies - https://www.thesocialcelebrity.com/featuresblog/2019/12/10/why-celebrities-are-partnering-with-network-marketing-companiesACN & Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQJim Rohn "The Magic of Part Time" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFR3Dx377MEFOX 11 Investigates ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WDt-2SKFsThe Slave Circle (Direct Marketing Devil Corp. Documentary) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyCRzBt7GuYDeceptive Income Disclosures Power MLM Recruiting And Expansion - https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/deceptive-income-disclosures-power-mlm-recruiting-and-expansion-2016-03-30The Persuasian Pitch Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-persuasion-pitch/id1546523817Windermere Candle Company - https://windermerecandleco.com/Betting on Zero - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_on_ZeroPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, we get to meet our very first "BroBot", Russ Nielsen, who had an incredibly unbelievable experience in a serviced based MLM. In an effort to keep Russ motivated and "all in" with their scam, his upline kept pushing attending big events, even when he couldn't afford to go. Even with the strange and abusive treatment he received, the dopamine fueled parties kept Russ on the hook, right up until the sunk cost fallacy kicked in when he went to Baltimore to hear Donald Trump speak.Show NotesACN Opportunity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0uZk-KIPkACN Customer Acquisition Scripts - http://www.xschampions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tony_cupiszscript.pdfRotten Apples - https://www.itamer.com/its-good-to-be-a-rotten-apple/262/ACN and Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQDonald Trump promotes ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbIih4RghUQSunk Cost Fallacy - https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7vRRiFoLE/ACN International Event December 2006 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcPaPOVBCY0Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In part 2, Robert and I finish up our analysis into the differences between MLMs and Pyramid Schemes, answer some questions from our listeners, discuss what the future of the Anti-MLM movement looks like and how to achieve the cohesive message that we both believe will change the future of how people view and understand Multi Level Marketing on a fundamental level.Show Notes:Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSFalse Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3wr4Yu7How Does Multi Level Marketing (MLM) Work? - https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/multi-level-marketing-explainedIt Works! "Powdered Celery" - https://static.myitworks.com/productsheets/34800/34800-productinfo-en.pdfBernie Madoff - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_MadoffSpanish Prisoner Scam - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner"Advance-Fee Scam" (Nigerian Prince) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scamDirect Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/Jon Taylor's The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdfSteven Hassan's Freedom of Mind Resource - https://freedomofmind.com/The Dream - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296Multilevel Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iIHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is the bonus episode I have been waiting to record forever! I always enjoy all my conversations with Robert, because he's so knowledgeable on this subject and we have a great time talking about swindles, scams, tricks and flimflams. After I finished reading Ponzinomics, I immediately emailed Robert and asked him if he would be willing to talk with me on the podcast about his chapter "Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme", so we can really define what differences there are between Pyramid Schemes and Multi Level Marketing. I think you know where this is going...Show NotesPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSFalse Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3rLipS1Pyramid Scheme Alert - https://pyramidschemealert.org/Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Jon M. Taylor, PhD - https://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/about/jmt.htmlThe Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdfMulti Level Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iIKeith Raniere - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_RaniereAmway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmwayHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When MLM came knocking, Dina was a young newlywed. Even though she grew up with MLM all around her, she never actually fully experienced the insidous cult until she joined one. She felt like she couldn't talk about her experiences because of who had recruited her, but decided it was time to share her experiences about how ridiculous it all really was. We had A LOT of laughs while Dina recapped her journey with the magic blueberry power of Kyani. Show Notes5 HEALTH BENEFITS OF THE WILD ALASKAN BLUEBERRY - https://blog.thewellnessuniverse.com/5-health-benefits-alaskan-blueberry/Kyani Done For You Business Model - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg_Izi9YNr4What you should know about Kyani - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/what-you-should-know-about-kyani/Kyani Potato Pak - https://kyani.com/us/kyani-potato-pak/Kyäni Caring Hands Tanzania Africa Trip 2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTvXMW34tUKyani Caring Hands Charity Navigator rating - https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/810829674White Guilt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guiltMel Robbins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_RobbinsHow Chemotherapy Helps Fight Lupus and Other Autoimmune Diseases - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-chemotherapy-helps-fight-lupus-and-other-autoimmune-diseases-101915Kyani hit with Pyramid Scheme allegations - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-hit-pyramid-scheme-complaint/Kyani Pyramid Scheme Claims - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-pyramid-scheme-claims/KYANI, HEAD SCIENTIST DOUBLE DOWN ON INAPPROPRIATE HEALTH CLAIMS - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-head-scientist-double-inappropriate-health-claims/Qutab v. Kyani, Inc - https://casetext.com/case/qutab-v-kyani-incKyani IDS - https://download.kyani.net/Business%20Documents/Ky%C3%A4ni%20US%20Distributor%20Income%20Disclosure-11.15-en-us.pdfFounders of Kyani die in plane crash - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-plane-crash-victims-identified-idaho-business-executives-family-n1094016Why a new online makeup trend could be doing more harm than good for Black communities - https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/why-the-new-online-makeup-trend-could-be-doing-more-harm-than-good-for-black-communities/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this bonus episode, I tackle the age old question of "How much can you make PER HOUR in MLM?" by analyzing 14 different MLM's Income Disclosure Statements, and using averages to find out. I take the annual average wages, divide by 12 to get the monthly figure, then divide by 80 hours a month for part time wages. I think the results may shock you. For comparison, we also talk about minimum wages, livable wages, living comfortably, and what the going rate for labor is in the US Prison System.*I do say the wrong thing in this episode, stating I divided the monthly figure by 20 to get part time pay, but I meant to say "divide by 80" (20 hours x 4 weeks) so forgive me, because the math still checks out.*Show Notes!"Living Comfortably" : https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/living-wage-income-to-live-comfortably-in-every-us-statePrison Labor Wages : https://isps.yale.edu/news/blog/2013/10/time-to-reckon-with-prison-labor-0#Livable Wage Info : https://livingwage.mit.edu/articles/61-new-living-wage-data-for-now-available-on-the-tool#Lollipop Moments : https://www.ted.com/talks/drew_dudley_everyday_leadership?language=en"What does an average MLM or Network Marketing Distributor make per year?" : https://www.mlminsider.com/articles/what-does-an-average-mlm-or-network-marketing-distributor-make-per-yearPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Part two, Lynzee and I spill A LOT of tea. We get into the nitty gritty details about our collective time in LuLaRoe and dish some gossip about what we experienced, including the LuLaRoe Cruise, what it's like to go to Mark and Deanne's house, the drama of the failed Noir launch and a couple juicy bits more. Lynzee shares her realization about the similarities she saw in Piphany, and what her "final straw" was. Life after MLM for Lynzee includes her continued education and a Marie Kondo style deep clean.Show NotesLuLaRoe Partners with Disney - https://www.forbes.com/sites/marciaturner/2017/05/21/clothier-lularoe-partners-with-disney-to-create-new-fashion-collection/?sh=1fb28ba62a54CEO of LuLaRoe Mark Stidham and his $5M in cars - https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/07/lularoe-mark-stidham-is-buying-5-million-in-autos/Real stories from the LLR Cruise - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/7zpuy2/my_friend_went_on_the_lularoe_cruise_and_heres/Sunk Fallacy - https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7vRRiFoLE/LuLaRoe's "Level Playing Field" - https://twitter.com/mommylikewhoa/status/1002939798615568385?lang=en"5 Minutes on your knees" - https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/b5ddkk/just_remember5_mins_a_day_and_your_husband_wont/LuLaRoe Xanax allegations - https://lularoefail.com/2018/01/01/lularoe-mentor-xanax-given-going-onstage/Effort Justification Effect - https://dictionary.apa.org/effort-justificationLuLaRoe Noir Launch Fail - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lula-noir-launchHoney & Lace rebranded as Piphany - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/piphany-formerly-known-as-honey--lace-announces-name-change-and-company-rebranding-effort-300528497.htmlBilly McFarland - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_McFarland_(fraudster)It Works! "Just Celery" - https://static.myitworks.com/productsheets/34800/34800-productinfo-en.pdfLuLaRoe's family tree of multilevel marketers - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lularoes-family-tree-of-multilevel-marketers/Sam Schultz Hardcore Piphany Recruitment - https://lularoefail.com/2018/07/03/sam-schultz-hardcore-piphany-recruitment/LuLaRoe sues Piphany - https://news.lularoe.com/news-articles/2019/2/11/memorandum-of-understanding-between-llr-inc-and-piphanyIn Group/Out Group theory - https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/glossary/in-groupout-groupPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSSteven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Trust No One #becauseoflularoe https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseoflularoe/How can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lynzee Abel was a wide eyed, optimistic person who just wanted more for her life when she was first introduced to Multi Level Marketing in her teens. With her professional retail experience, she thought she could have an edge in the competitive industry. Once she saw the way MLMs worked from the inside, after being involved in FIVE of them, she decided enough was enough. Show NotesMy favorite AntiMLM Wax Melt alternative (And it's the family owned business of AntiMLM Advocate Jessica James, of The Persuasion Pitch Podcast!) - https://windermerecandleco.com/Business Network International (BNI) - https://www.bni.com/aboutFortune Hi-Tech Marketing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_Hi-Tech_MarketingRumspringa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RumspringaGriddy Sued by Texas AG! - https://www.npr.org/2021/03/01/972515561/texas-attorney-general-sues-griddy-saying-electricity-provider-misled-customersFortune Hi-Tech Marketing sued by the FTC - https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/01/28/fhtm-shut-down-pyramid-scheme/1870527/Me opening and smelling the 1980's Avon Dancing Cat from the "Pink and Pretty" collection - Avon Barbie - https://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/74299222023Need help? Postpartum Support International - https://www.postpartum.net/get-help/RIP Periscope - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service)LuLaRoe sued over sales tax - https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2017/02/27/popular-fashion-line-lularoe-sued-for-overcharging-customers-sales-tax/?sh=78a491aa176dWhat is "Toxic Positivity" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CL4juJ-F3nK/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.*--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After tackling topics like cultural moray, the role of women in the LDS faith, and why Utah is rife with MLM's in part one, Ryan and I dive into "Big Pyramid", Mitt Romney's connections to MLM, the affinity fraud of Tahitian Noni Juice, the obsession of outrageous health claims and essential oils from a religious standpoint, and where your tithing really goes. This is Part 2.Show Notes:Truth and Transparency - https://www.truthandtransparency.org/How much do top Mormon leaders make? Leaked pay stubs may surprise you. - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4800350&itype=cmsidNew website plans to showcase leaked Mormon documents - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4725913&itype=CMSIDMormonLeaks Reddit post about leaked payments - https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/5mysp0/leaked_q15_and_1q70_pay_information/Morinda aka Tahitian Noni Juice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morinda,_Inc.Get-Rich-Quick Profiteers Love Mitt Romney, and He Loves Them Back - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/mitt-romney-nu-skin-multilevel-marketing-schemes/The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdfConsecrating Oil - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/priesthood-ordinances-and-blessings/consecrating-oil?lang=engPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.* --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.