Life After MLM

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!In 1997 the largest mass suicide on US soil happened as the Hale-Bopp Comet passed over earth. The tragedy was a result of the belief that evil space aliens were holding humans back from reaching their true potential, deeply held by the religious organization Heaven's Gate, founded in 1974 by leaders Ti and Do. One of the earliest members, Sharon Welsh just happened to be the aunt of my friend and fellow podcaster, Leslie Fear. So I asked Leslie if she would come help me tell the story of Heaven's Gate, using her never been told insider perspective.Show Notes:Follow Leslie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lesliefear/Hale-Bopp, Heaven's Gate and the Largest Mass Suicide on US Soil - https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/03/hale-bopp-heavens-gate-and-the-largest-mass-suicide-on-u-s-soil/Hale-Bopp Comet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93BoppHeaven's Gate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)Do's Final Exit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGXDQ_8bSAStudent Exit Statements - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHz9it70TdIOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Check out how you can save 10% on your first month of online therapy here. This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Don't forget to submit your cult stories at outofmlm.info! Spencer Schneider spent 23 years of his life in an elite Manhattan secret society, hidden in plain sight, and operating under everyone's noses called "School". The founder, an eccentric washed up actress named Sharon Gans was obsessed with the private lives of her followers, abusing them for her own sick satisfaction. Though not an MLM, the parallels of the two organizations feel dangerously familiar, and Spencer is here to help us expose them.Show Notes:Spencer's website - https://www.spencer-schneider.com/Follow Spencer on IG - https://www.instagram.com/officialspencerschneider/Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival - https://amzn.to/3U2Gr9vCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Everyone knows about Amway, but what about the Tools Cult? It's been mentioned in many Amway episodes, but it's entire weight was largely unknown. So when fan of the show, and American Historian Sean Munger reached out with an episode idea, I was game. And after Paul talked so much about the tools in Britt World Wide, this episode seemed the perfect follow up! If you were ever curious about the cult of the motivational tapes, and the showdown with Amway that ensued, you gotta listen to this episode.Show NotesSean's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/SeanMungerSean's Substack - https://seanmungerhistory.substack.com/The Tools Cult: History of the Amway Motivational Tape Scam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nA3pqSaf8Doug Wead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_WeadDexter Yager on 60 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwE0VG-H44&list=RDLV9xwE0VG-H44&start_radio=1&t=1237s60 Minutes Transcript - http://thefactsabouttheamwayopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/amway-on-60-minutes-soap-and-hope.htmlThe Postma Memo - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/postma-memo-1983.pdfAmway : The Untold Story - The Tools Scam - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/tools.htmAmQuix.info Archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20161120060052/http://www.amquix.info/Rich DeVos "Directly Speaking" - https://web.archive.org/web/20161118055618/http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.htmlAmway Cult Resources - https://freedomofmind.com/group-information-resource/amway/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter, including suicide and mental health crisis. Please use discretion when listening. Michelle and Paul spent 10 years in Britt World Wide, a cult inside Amway that controlled every aspect of their life, including the level of communication they had with each other. Though their stories are very different from each other, they are the same, woven together as they recount the early days as teenagers with thriving Amway businesses and a hustle they haven't lost in their life after MLM.Show NotesMichelle's IG - https://www.instagram.com/michellegarabito/Paul's IG - https://www.instagram.com/cr3ateabundance/Paul's Podcast - https://cr3ateyourself.podbean.com/Why Michelle Decided to Leave BWW - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZFRLcSbkE&t=1sLife After Amway - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENYtsVKNSXICultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. I had no idea how bad Rank Makers was until I spoke to Julie Anderson. That chat lead me down a path uncovering shocking behavior and even scarier experiences from even more people, including Jennifer Rajala. It wasn't until I put out a call to action asking for testimonials that Ray's victims poured forth. I had so many submissions, I decided to organize them by the BITE Model, juxtaposing them with Ray's own thoughts and opinions.Show NotesPlay to Win Episode One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JV2tHyjHjg&list=PLoGN-3IQ01C456usBAdcDhQuJmIc_ux7URank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmuCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Please use discretion when listening. Jennifer Rajala never expected she would find herself sitting across the screen from me, talking about her experiences in the top of not 1, but 2 simultaneous commercial cults. After her former coaching client came on the show to share her story, Jennifer wanted to add in some more details about being in the "Inner Circle" of one of the MLM Coaching groups.Show NotesFollow Jennifer on IG! - https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.rajalaFollow Jennifer on TikTok! - https://www.tiktok.com/@jennifer.rajalaJulie's Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-123-julie-anderson/id1553784236?i=1000581265973Inner Circle Coaching - https://higdongroup.com/take-the-survey/Rank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmuCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to November! We've partnered with IGotOut.org to bring you a month full of cult stories and education! Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!Here is part 2 of the Minisode from last week! After reading the conversation between Thomas and Ronald, I needed to know more... and whoa. It's so much more difficult and convoluted than I could have ever imagined. CIA cover up plots, a ponzi scheme and an attempted murder? Grab a snack and buckle up, cuz we're about to confirm some suspicions.Show Notes:Thomas Willhite Plane Crash & BBRDW - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdwHow to get Away with Spying for the Enemy - https://www.topic.com/how-to-get-away-with-spying-for-the-enemyCIA Cover Blown by Honolulu TV Reporter - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140902212249-29817943-cia-cover-blown-by-honolulu-tv-reporterhonolulu-tv-reporterRon Rewald - https://americanfootballdatabase.fandom.com/wiki/Ron_RewaldCIA Officers Testify at Hawaii Fraud Trial - https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/03/us/cia-officers-testify-at-hawaii-fraud-trial.htmlThose Ugly Americans by Rodney Stich - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDECPlot Twists in History that Still Surprise People - https://historycollection.com/plot-twists-from-history-that-still-surprise-people/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Halloween! All month long we shared MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder! Next month, we tackle CULTS!!! Stayed tuned!Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!When I got to be on Let The Women, it was a dream come true! Not only did I get to be a part of an amazing series, I got to hang out with Gillian Pensavalle from True Crime Obsessed and become friends! So when October hit, I knew exactly who I wanted to tell this story with, and she was more than happy to join us! On Gillian's show, she reacts to True Crime docs, so I told her quite possibly the most tragic and detailed MLM related murder I have ever come across. For those who are fans of Gillian, there is even more Patreon Exclusive content for the peeps!Show Notes:True Crime Obsessed - https://www.truecrimeobsessed.com/Let The Women Do The Work with Rabia - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/let-the-women-rabia-chaudry-on-the-case-against-adnan-syed/id1232009882?i=1000560735576Serial - https://serialpodcast.org/Undisclosed - https://undisclosed-podcast.com/Serial Dynasty - https://audioboom.com/channel/the-serial-dynastyThe Secret Life of Paige Birgfeld - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfeld/Chef Success - https://www.chefsuccess.com/search/265032/?q=paige+dixon&o=relevanceMissing Small Town Soccer Mom Found - https://truecrimedaily.com/2017/02/08/missing-small-town-soccer-mom-found-murdered-suspect-convicted-years-later/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!It was just a quick google to fact check something during a chat, but the rabbit hole it led me down made my head spin. I thought I was investigating the origin story of a course scam and I somehow STILL ended up in pyramid schemes, murder plots, Ponzi schemes and surprisingly, a first - CIA espionage. This is the first half of two unlikely stories with a common thread. Stay tuned for next Wednesday for the second half!Show Notes:William Penn Patrick - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Penn_PatrickHoliday Magic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_MagicMustang Forum - https://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/who/case/152The Incredible Implosion of Holiday Magic - https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/article/The-incredible-implosion-of-Holiday-Magic-16785971.phpWilliam Penn Patrick Killed - https://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/10/archives/william-patrick-is-killed-in-california-air-crash.htmlThomas Willhite Plane Crash - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdwThose Ugly Americans - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDEC&pgWilliam Penn Patrick & Holiday Magic - https://thesnappingpoint.com/william-penn-patrick-holiday-magic/Thomas Willhite's Motorcycle Training Manual - https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/motorcycle-training-manualCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Nobody Should Believe Me, a groundbreaking new podcast by Andrea Dunlop about Munchausen by Proxy told from the perspective of those whose lives were turned upside down by it. Listen wherever you listen to podcasts! Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!We've all heard a story about an MLM funneling someone into a course scam, but what happens when the course scam funnels you into an MLM? For Andrea, all she wanted to do was help people, so why not supplement her college degree with some self guided, self-help courses and become a certified life coach? But from day one, everything seemed strange, and instead of trusting her gut, she trusted handsome young men in fancy suits. It wasn't until she ended up in the ER that she "woke up" and saw the scam for what it really was.*Next Wednesday's episode starts a strange 2-part Rabbit Hole into Thomas Willhite. Stay Tuned!*Show Notes:iPEC Coaching - https://www.ipeccoaching.com/PSI Seminars - https://psiseminars.com/World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_GroupCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.