Life After MLM

As a mom of special needs children, Savannah wanted to be the best advocate for them that she could be. She thought she was doing her research when she came upon a Special Needs advocate and educator who promised just that. Throughout her experience she started to notice some red flags; unnecessary conflict, tensions and a seemingly endless fight for what kinda looked like justice. But for who?Show NotesCOPAA - https://www.copaa.org/From Emotions to Advocacy -https://amzn.to/3SoKNs0Wrightslaw - https://www.wrightslaw.com/Beyond Behaviors - https://amzn.to/3kpqNsQThe Council for Exceptional Children - https://exceptionalchildren.org/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*This episode involves discussion of sex work, sexual assault and racism. Please use discretion when listening.*Jessica Hopper was introduced to pole fitness in the mid 2000's when she stumbled upon S Factor Studio and quickly became an instructor. Throughout her 14 years with the studio, Jessica witnessed countless abuses of power at the hand of the company's founder, Sheila Kelley. With compartmentalization and focusing on her students, Jessica trudged on until the company's reaction to the murder of George Floyd and the BLM movement couldn't keep her silent any longer.Show Notes:Stripped Down: The Undoing of Hollywood’s Favorite Pole-Dancing Studio - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-pole-dancing-studio-s-factor-allegations-1234961498/A wildly popular pole dancing studio "irresponsibly preyed on women’s pain," a former instructor says - https://www.mic.com/life/the-s-factor-studio-is-facing-allegations-of-exploitation-racial-insensitivity-81080002Not-So-Empowering: This Hollywood Pole Dance Studio Reportedly Caused 'Direct Harm' to BIPOC Women - https://www.theroot.com/not-so-empowering-this-hollywood-pole-dance-studio-rep-1847025002Navigating the Cult-Like World of Fitness Classes, Self-Help Guides, and Groupthink - https://www.shondaland.com/live/body/a36832001/navigating-the-cult-world-fitness-self-help-groupthink/Netflix's pole dance therapy film "Strip Down, Rise Up" exploits trauma & is fixated on male gaze - https://www.salon.com/2021/02/15/strip-down-rise-up-netflix-pole-dance-trauma-feminism/Yes A Stripper Podcast - https://yesastripperpodcast.com/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This Episode is sponsored by Credit Sage. To save $50 on your credit repair service visit https://www.creditsage.com/mlm or call (844) 938 1619*TW: This episode talks about infertility, IVF, and Covid-19. Please use caution when listening.*When Brandi joined Arbonne she had no idea what she was signing up for, she just wanted a way to pay for another round of IVF. Throughout her time in the MLM she was shamed, guilted, preyed upon and then had to answer to the FTC. Brandi shares what it was like to be "successful" in a health and wellness MLM at the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, what she was told to say, how she was told to pray, and what incriminating evidence she was told to erase.Show Notes:17 Biggest MLM Companies in the World - https://www.yahoo.com/now/17-biggest-mlm-companies-world-144157353.htmlr/AntiMLM : IVF & MLM - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/bzfkng/sure_target_vulnerable_women_battling_with/FTC Letters to Arbonne - https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/warning-letters/covid-19-letter_to_arbonne_international_llc.pdfCults, Cancer & Covid-19 - https://shityoushouldcareabout.com/article/arbonneOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Tracy Coenen is the powerhouse behind Pink Truth and the brilliant forensic accountant also known as The Fraud Coach. And she's here to talk to us about financial literacy after leaving high demand situations... like bad marriages, or even cults. Tracy has been though the MLM rollercoaster so she offers a unique perspective to those of us who may be going through even more than leaving an MLM during "The Great Awakening" of the past 3 years. If you're in the "divorce headspace" (trust me, I get it!) this is the episode for you!Show NotesAbout Tracy - https://www.sequenceinc.com/about/PinkTruth - https://www.pinktruth.com/Divorce Money Guide - https://www.fraudcoach.com/divorcemoneyguide SAVE $100 with code LIFEAFTERMLMPost Divorce Money Guide - https://www.fraudcoach.com/post-divorceHelloDivorce - https://hellodivorce.com/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When twin sisters Melissa and Marissa both joined Pampered Chef, it was for very different reasons with very different results. As one quickly climbed the ranks, the other was stacked and used to help her sister rank up within the company, helping her earn trips, recognition and at times up to 5 times more than her sister was. It wasn't until a personal revelation, and an interventions of sorts that the sisters were able to see the scam for what it really was, and find the strength to leave.Show Notes:How much can you earn with Pampered Chef? - https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/shame-on-loccitane-as-it-launches-mlm-myloccitane/#:~:text=How%20much%20can%20you%20earn%20at%20MLM%20Pampered%20Chef%3FPampered Chef AntiMLM Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/7uc4h9/thoughts_on_the_pampered_chef/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Christine reached out to me because she found the podcast and wanted to talk about a subject near to her heart that we hadn't covered yet; Military families and spouses and how MLMs take advantage of them from multiple angles. It's a discussion I've wanted to have for awhile, and while Christine wasn't ever in an MLM, she's supported more than anyone could ever want to admit. And she brought a list with her! We chat about the military, US capitalism and unpaid and underpaid labor to open up some new topics for 2023.Show NotesHiring Our Heroes - https://www.hiringourheroes.org/Capitalism is a Pyramid Scheme - https://ryangosha.medium.com/capitalism-is-a-pyramid-scheme-769cc882f6Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*This episode contains topics that may be triggering to some listeners, including descriptions of medical procedures, fatphobia, infertility and child loss. Please use discretion when listening.*Hayden was starting her fertility journey when she discovered a clinic just down the street. It was a well known and respected clinic so she didn't see the red flag until she was poking around on their website. But her experience lead her to messaging me, and our conversation opens up even more topics to tackle in 2023; the ethics of medical professionals who support MLMs and the targeting of the vulnerabilities of infertility.Show NotesMLMs & Infertility - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/qbsmsx/mlm_claims_to_help_infertility_not_sure_how_true/South Park Timeshare - https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/ervv23/south-park-i-ve-got-a-little-place-in-aspenOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you heard of ChatGPT? It's an AI model that chats conversationally. The format makes it possible for the AI to learn, admit mistakes, be challenged, and answer follow up questions. And after being asked so many times over the holidays if I had heard of it or used it, I signed up and gave it a whirl. My conversations with ChatGPT started off with some basic MLM stuff, and quickly descended into me arguing with a robot, so I wanted to share what I learned with you.Show NotesChatGPT - https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/AI Isn’t Ready to Make Unsupervised Decisions - https://hbr.org/2022/09/ai-isnt-ready-to-make-unsupervised-decisionsOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In 2021 I got an ADHD diagnosis and answered a lot of my own personal burning questions about myself. Why am I so impulsive? Why do I feel like such an imposter? Am I lazy? Ever since that moment, and even before, I have been focused on the unspoken connection between MLMs and Neurodivergent people. How are we targeted? Why do we jump from one to the next? How much lipstick does one really need? So I asked someone who has a lot more knowledge about the subject, Layla Touchet, LPC, NCC, PSC to talk to us about why those of us with ND would be more drawn to MLMs, and how the MLMs use our symptoms to keep us stuck.Show NotesLayla's IG - https://www.instagram.com/theneurodivergentcounselor/ADHD Online - https://adhdonline.com/Understood - https://www.understood.org/ADDitude - https://www.additudemag.com/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy 2023 Hunbots and Hunbros!We've got lots of new focuses and content for 2023, and I cannot wait to share it all with you! We're starting off the year with an episode filled with hilarious self-awareness as April recounts her MLM journey throughout her entire life. MLM parties as a child? Check! Dopamine addiction fueled by "Kitnapping" MLM after MLM? Check! Crunchy cult pipeline? Check! From Metabolife to Herbalife, April has probably tried it so you don't have to.Show Notes:Metabolife - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetabolifeKitnapping - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8wts2h/i_was_almost_a_victim_of_kitnapping/Paparazzi & Covid - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-lovedOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.