
An Honorable Profession
Restore your faith in government with An Honorable Profession. Every Thursday, co-hosts Ryan Coonerty and Debbie Cox Bultan sit down with rising state and local Democrats, policy experts, and the nation’s top political minds for empowering and candid conversations about life in public service and government. Together with their guests – which include members of the Biden Administration, state legislators nationwide, and mayors from America’s top cities – Ryan and Debbie discuss the biggest issues facing Americans today and the decisive role that state and local leaders play in catalyzing progressive, pragmatic solutions.
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Latest episodes

Jul 4, 2024 • 40min
Debbie Cox Bulltanon 30 Years Working in the Center-Left
Today, we’re sharing NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan’s recent appearance on the Pro Politics podcast – a political podcast that interviews people who work in and around the political industry. Host Zac McCrary and Debbie talk about growing up in a middle-class family in Sacramento, CA, her active role in her church, and her Capitol Hill internship with the late Congressman Vic Facio. They discuss her experience working for the Democratic Leadership Council for 15 years, what led her to her current role as CEO of NewDEAL, and some of the success stories of the rising leaders with whom she has worked. Debbie goes on to talk about NewDEAL’s “Freedom Agenda,” released in partnership with the New Democrat Coalition, the role that the issue of abortion will play in this year’s election, and much more. Tune in to learn more from this engaging conversation and about Debbie’s most unusual, successful work habit. IN THIS EPISODE [01:04] Growing up in an apolitical, middle-class family in Sacramento. [04: 36] A formative DC internship for her local Congressman, Vic Fazio. [08:05] Debbie's early experiences working in CA campaign fundraising and managing. [09:42] Debbie's 15 years working at the DLC, the Democratic Leadership Council & the impact the DLC had on American politics. [17:39] Starting the center-left NewDEAL non-profit to engage and promote young Democratic leaders. [22:14] Using Pete Buttigieg as an example to talk through the role NewDEAL can play in the rise of a public figure. [25:00] How Debbie has worked to develop to a well-rounded skillset to lead a national organization. [31:00] The "Freedom Agenda" NewDEAL has helped develop. [33:15]The role Debbie sees the issue of abortion rights playing in the '24 election cycle. [35:20]Advice for the next generation of political operatives. [37:22] Debbie's most unusual, successful work habit.

Jun 27, 2024 • 34min
Fulton County Commissioner Dana Barrett on Fighting Far-Right Extremism
This week, NewDEAL CEO and host Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with Fulton County Commissioner Dana Barrett. She talks about what it’s like to serve in local government, her Congressional race in 2020, and her motivation to speak out against far-right extremism. Coming from a background in technology and media, Barrett also shares her work to ensure that all county residents have access to high-quality, affordable internet and healthcare. In addition, Debbie and Commissioner Barrett discuss Georgia’s political landscape heading into November, the role of reproductive rights in swaying voters, and Fulton County’s work to ensure a smooth election. Tune in to learn about her unique path into public service and what we can all expect from Georgia this year. • [01:05] Introducing Fulton County Commissioner Dana Barrett. • [02:03] Her experience as the newly appointed Commissioner; what has surprised, challenged and gratified her. • [03:52] Navigating the challenge of being on a contentious board of seven. • [05:39] The state of reproductive rights in Fulton County. • [07:25] Why this is the case despite a Democrat majority. • [08:36] Commissioner Barrett’s work to get a rainy day fund for healthcare into her budget. • [11:51] Her efforts to supply affordable internet access for all and her background in tech. • [15:34] How Commissioner Barrett became involved in media as a radio host and began to use her platform to speak about politics. • [19:10] Running for Congress in 2020. • [22:44] A temperature check on the political landscape in Georgia at the moment. • [26:32] How reproductive rights might affect the upcoming election. • [30:44] Commissioner Barrett’s worries and hopes for the upcoming election.

Jun 20, 2024 • 39min
Jesse Ferguson on Winning Undecided Voters
This week, we bring you another episode of our Road to November 2024 election series, as co-hosts Debbie Cox Bultan and Ryan Coonerty sit down with Jesse Ferguson. Jesse is a leading Democratic strategist and consultant. With over two decades of experience, he has led national campaigns on issues ranging from health care to clean energy. Today, Jesse discusses recommended strategies for effectively engaging with persuadable voters across a range of topics. He talks with Debbie and Ryan about former president Trump’s legal issues and specific messaging around the economy, public safety, and abortion, as well as how to appeal to young and rural voters. Jesse also gives us practical and inspiring advice – offering tangible do’s and don’ts for Democratic candidates and supporters. Tune in to gain valuable insights on connecting with voters and learn about the critical issues that will define November’s election. • [01:04] Introducing today’s guest, leading Democratic strategist, Jesse Ferguson. • [01:49] Jesse’s insights on persuadable voters throughout the country. • [05:38] Trump’s felony charges and convictions,and what it means for his candidacy. • [07:47] The challenge of reaching young, persuadable voters, and what resonates with them. • [11:55] How Democrats can improve their messaging about the economy. • [15:39] Strategies for running against someone who lies and makes up the facts. • [17:44] The impact of third-party candidates in this election. • [20:05] Rural voters: how Democrats can appeal to them. • [24:20] How Democrats should be talking about public safety. • [25:50] Addressing the issue of abortion in this election. • [28:15] Reforming the immigration system and meeting voters where they are. • [29:50] Why the issue of democracy is not too big a topic for voters to understand. • [33:08] What drew Jesse to this field and how he stays motivated.

Jun 13, 2024 • 26min
Mayor Phillip Jones on the Year of the Youth
In this week’s episode, NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan talks with Newport News, VA’s youngest elected mayor Phillip Jones. They discuss his first State of the City Address, where he proclaimed 2024 as the Year of the Youth, thanks to his initiatives like Night Nets and the Summer Youth Employment Program, as well as investments in expanded childcare throughout his city. Debbie and Mayor Jones also talk about his journey to becoming an “Education Mayor,” his work on climate justice, and what has surprised him the most about the job of mayor. Tune in to listen to Mayor Jones' tips on how to engage young people in government and his insights into what will motivate Virginia voters this November. • [01:04] Welcome to Newport News, VA, Mayor Phillip Jones, the youngest person to be elected mayor of his hometown. • [02:36] His favorite thing about being Mayor so far and why his parents are his toughest constituents. • [05:08] The two initiatives that funding allocated to the youth is going towards: Night Nets and Youth Career Program. • [08:52] Why education is always top of mind for Mayor Jones and the results he has seen. • [11:55] His efforts to impact climate change. • [13:06] What Mayor Jones loves most about his city. • [15:05] How service became such a major theme in his life. • [16:21] The journey to running for office. • [20:29] How education became a priority prior to his appointment as mayor. • [21:58] Which issues Mayor Jones hears about the most and how he is responding to them. • [23:10] Advice for young people looking to get involved in politics.

Jun 6, 2024 • 44min
Mike Madrid on The Latino Century
This episode continues our Road to November 2024 election series, as co-hosts Debbie Cox Bultan and Ryan Coonerty talk with political consultant and co-founder of the Lincoln Project Mike Madrid. Madrid has long been a leading analyst of Latino voters and has led strategic outreach to Latino communities for various campaigns over the past 30 years. Now, he’s written a forthcoming book, titled The Latino Century: How America's Largest Minority Is Transforming Democracy, to provide a comprehensive study on voting trends among Latino voters. In today’s conversation, Mike, Debbie, and Ryan discuss why both Democrats and Republicans have struggled to reach Latino voters, how issues like the economy and housing are pushing Hispanic voters further right, and why dangerous stereotypes are costing both parties key votes. Mike also addresses how Republicans have changed their tone on American exceptionalism and instead embraced “cowardly” anti-immigration, anti-Latino rhetoric. Tune in to hear what drew Madrid to the Republican party many years ago and what inspired him to push back against Trump and co-found the Lincoln Project in 2019. Find more information on The Latino Century: How America's Largest Minority Is Transforming Democracy and pre-order the book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Latino-Century/Mike-Madrid/9781668015261 • [01:04] Welcoming Mike Madrid to this episode of An Honorable Profession. • [01:52] Discussing some themes of Mike’s new book, The Latino Century. • [06:48] The young nature of the Latino vote and why there’s no compelling economic agenda. • [11:26] What each party gets wrong for Latino voters and who Mike thinks will win. • [18:01] Mike debunks incorrect perceptions about Latino voters and their political views. • [23:37] Our guest shares his opinions on what’s needed to win the upcoming election. • [28:44] The evolution of the Republican Party and his work with The Lincoln Project. • [37:40] How Mike feels about the 2024 election and what we can expect from The Lincoln Project. Learn more about The Democracy Group at www.democracygroup.org.

May 30, 2024 • 31min
Ilana Rubel Breaks Down Idaho’s Abortion Ban
Exciting news! An Honorable Profession has found a new home at The Democracy Group – a network of podcasts united around the goal of helping listeners understand what’s broken in our democracy, and how people are working together to fix it. Learn more at www.democracygroup.org. In today’s episode, Ryan Coonerty sits down with the Idaho House Minority Leader Ilana Rubel for an energizing conversation on reproductive rights, governing in a superminority, and the November outlook from the Gem State. Rubel is a shining example of beating the odds; she was born in Canada to a single mother and lived out of a car throughout her childhood years. Armed with a keen understanding of how policy impacts the most vulnerable communities, Rubel found her way to D.C. to attend Georgetown University and then to Cambridge to receive her J.D. from Harvard Law School. Now, as the Democratic leader in the Idaho House of Representatives, she continues to beat the odds, winning approval for legislation to protect public schools, defend the right to contraceptives, and legalize fentanyl testing strips. During her interview, Rubel breaks down the pending Supreme Court case on Idaho’s new law that prevents abortions for women experiencing dire medical conditions, and she describes the economic consequences of the state’s abortion ban along with the mass exodus of qualified medical professionals from Idaho. She also provides an analysis of the political landscape of Idaho heading into November and what issues will be key to voters in her community this year. • [01:04] Idaho Representative Ilana Rubel updates listeners on happenings in her State. • [04:54] The current lawsuit around the legal implications of Idaho’s abortion ban. • [07:05] How the people of Idaho are reacting to the extremity of this ban. • [08:40] Systems in Idaho that have led to the lack of public opinion representation in the law. • [12:41] Impacts that the republican changes have made to business. • [14:54] Representative Rubel’s path to public service rooted in her own experience. • [17:50] Some of the surprising things she has been able to achieve even as a minority. • [19:58] How she navigates door-knocking and interfacing with Republican constituents. • [21:37] Advice for minority Democrats in Republican states. • [23:54] How she hopes to create change as a leader. • [26:04] Candidate recruitment in Idaho.

May 23, 2024 • 27min
Nina Smith on Appealing to Young People and Black Voters
Political communications strategist Nina Smith discusses engaging young and Black voters, handling GOP tactics, and combating misinformation in elections. She emphasizes the importance of empathic messaging, staying relevant, and addressing challenges in historically marginalized communities.

May 16, 2024 • 38min
Secretary of State Steve Simon Wants High Turnout and Low Drama this November
Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon and NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan discuss high voter turnout, young voter sentiment, election legislation, and historical accomplishments. Secretary Simon shares his early interest in current events and meeting the cast of Hamilton.

May 9, 2024 • 17min
Mayor Justin Bibb Expertly Leverages Once-In-A-Generation Federal Investments
Recorded on stage at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Phoenix, AZ, this week’s episode features Cleveland Mayor Justin Bibb in conversation with host Ryan Coonerty. They talk about Bibb’s aspirations for improving his city, how he has set his top priorities, and his strategy to improve public safety and revitalize underserved neighborhoods using the influx of federal resources from the Biden Administration. They also talk about Bibb’s plans for building climate resilience and chartering healthy and safe communities. In addition, Bibb shares examples from his experiences as a first-time Mayor to highlight opportunities he has found for Democrats and Republicans to work together in Ohio. Tune in to hear about how Bibb manages a packed schedule and his predictions for the Buckeye State this November. • [01:04] The story of how Justin Bibb came to be Mayor of Cleveland in 2022. • [01:39] Maximizing the impact of Biden-era investments in Cleveland. • [04:00] Two main areas that the city is allocating its recent investments. • [06:09] How Mayor Bibb plans to leverage technological advancements to benefit Cleveland. • [08:00] The once-in-a-generation opportunity that investment is affording cities. • [09:38] Climate resilience in Cleveland and Mayor Bibb’s advocacy in this area. • [11:40] The evolving role of mayors and the movement toward a country of city-states. • [13:17] Predictions for Ohio’s voting and the unique opportunity to work together as Democrats and Republicans. • [14:20] Expunging low-level marijuana convictions in his first year of office. • [16:08] How Mayor Bibb uses structure to ensure he honors his priorities.

May 2, 2024 • 35min
Representative Megan Srinivas Shares Why Government Needs a Doctor
Recorded at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Phoenix, AZ, this week’s episode features infectious disease doctor and Iowa State Representative Megan Srinivas. She and co-host Ryan Coonerty talk about her journey as the child of immigrants in a small Iowa town, to a life changing visit to Kenya, to Harvard, and back to Iowa home to represent disadvantaged communities. They discuss her storytelling strategies to create a middle ground on key issues like abortion and why medical professionals are well-positioned to run for office. Srinivas also explains how she embraces the diverse experiences of Iowans to align her messaging on key policy issues with people’s needs. Tune in to learn about her big policy ideas rooted in her unique background and how she balances her medical and legislative duties. • [01:06] An introduction to Iowa Representative Dr. Megan Srinivas and what motivates her to work in the legislature while practicing medicine. • [05:30] Her work to improve the Prior Authorization policy in the form of a bipartisan bill. • [07:42] A trip to rural Kenya that transformed how she relates to others. • [09:17] Formative experiences that sparked Dr. Srivas’s interest in global health and policy. • [13:02] Applying global practices to rural Iowa by adopting a broader interpretation of healthcare. • [16:42] Reframing key policies in order to create a middle ground with those who disagree. • [19:38] Iowa’s identity as a Purple State and what it takes to connect with Iowans. • [22:35] Predictions for 2024 and the messaging necessary to move the needle. • [24:45] Advice for healthcare practitioners who might want to run for office. • [26:01] How being a medical professional has helped Dr. Srinivas to build relationships. • [29:23] The dearth of mental health support and facilities in Iowa and what needs to change. • [31:46] Why there is an education crisis in Iowa and how this could be solved. • [33:22] How Dr. Srinivas chooses to focus her energy in order to enact change.
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