An Honorable Profession

This week, host Ryan Coonerty speaks with Lansing, MI, Mayor Andy Schor whose community and state are at the center of national politics and the current debates around manufacturing, jobs, and tariffs. Mayor Schor discusses the disconnect between President Trump’s campaign promises versus the actual impacts his policies are having on the lives of the everyday Michiganders who elected him. He digs into the specific impacts of tariffs, including how they threaten mid-Michigan’s auto industry, as well as small businesses through the Lansing region, and speaks more broadly about how mayors across the country are navigating the uncertainty of the second Trump administration, including threats to Biden-era federal funds. The mayor also reflects on his career in politics, detailing the pros and cons of serving both in the state legislature and as mayor, and how he views the changing political landscape. Tune in to hear how Mayor Schor is championing equitable growth across Michigan’s capital city. IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:04] Mayor Andy Schor’s key position at ground zero of American politics in Michigan today. • [02:12] An overview of life in Lansing, Michigan, following the 2020 pandemic. • [04:28] How Lansing created the conditions for growth and what the response has been. • [07:06] Mayor Schor’s experience of serving at different levels of government. • [12:50] How Michigan citizens are feeling about the political climate in 2025. • [15:43] The impact of tariffs on manufacturing jobs and the car industry. • [20:58] Threats and impacts to cities across the country. • [23:35] How the change in status of tax-exempt municipal bonds will affect Lansing. • [25:22] What it’s truly like to be Mayor of Lansing, Michigan. • [28:00] How the world of politics has changed since Mayor Schor’s early involvement.

Today on An Honorable Profession, we’re revisiting co-host Debbie Cox Bultan’s conversation with Jennifer Pahlka. Pahlka has decades of experience in civic technology. She was U.S. Deputy Chief Technology Officer under former President Obama and recently authored  the book, Recoding America: Why Government is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better. Debbie and Jennifer talk about the factors that often make government slow or ineffective and what the Department of Government Efficiency is getting wrong about cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. Jennifer shares her advice for elected officials from prioritizing civil service reform to investing in digital and data infrastructure and the importance of measuring results. Tune in to hear how Democrats can go on offense against DOGE by championing thoughtful and lawful systemic improvements.   IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:05] Introducing An Honorable Profession’s new series: How Government Can Get Shit Done. • [02:17] Welcome to Jennifer Pahlka who served as US Deputy Chief Technology Officer under President Obama. • [04:53] How to not lose sight of the real problems that need evolving. • [09:40] Why efficiency is a byproduct of government rather than a goal. • [11:17] Differentiating between creating regulations and making government work. • [16:24] Four things government officials can do to facilitate interaction. • [18:12] How LLMs can support efficiency. • [21:56] What it might look like to care more about the outcome than the bill. • [25:41] How to know the true status of your bureaucracy. • [28:10] Understanding why bureaucracy is risk adverse. • [30:28] Jennifer’s journey to public service. • [32:20] How tech can build a better world for those who most need it.  

This week, host Ryan Coonerty talks with Connecticut State Senator Christine Cohen. Cohen is a small business owner turned legislator who previously served on her local school board before running for the state senate following the first election of President Trump. In Hartford, she draws on her experiences as the owner of Cohen’s Bagel Company  to guide her leadership on various legislative committees, including the Finance, Revenue, and Bonding Committee and the Environment Committee, and now as the Co-Chair of the Transportation Committee. Her impressive record of legislative success includes leading the passage of the Connecticut Clean Air Act, enacting legislation to prevent wrong-way crashes, and securing funding for mental health crisis intervention programs for law enforcement officers. Ryan and Senator Cohen discuss the misconception that Democrats are “anti--business” and how she's pushed back on this by forwarding a pro-business agenda, including crucial work on paid leave. They also talk about the challenges of working in the state legislature at a time when hyper-partisan rhetoric dominates conversations and distracts from serving the people. Tune in to hear Senator Cohen’s advice for policymakers who want to focus on solutions and support small businesses in these uncertain economic times.   IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:04] Podcast producer, Rachel, introduces this episode where Ryan Coonerty interviews Senator Christine Cohen. • [02:03] Senator Cohen’s journey from Cohen’s Bagel Co to the state senate. • [05:45] Transferrable skills and areas of focus between small business and local government. • [09:02] How Senator Cohen believes the Democratic Party can better support small business owners. • [11:06] Paid family medical leave and her work on the Environment Committee and the Connecticut Clean Air Act. • [15:02] How Connecticut’s transportation policy has been affected by the Trump administration. • [19:40] Her state’s leadership is working to reduce harm and the value of a bipartisan approach. • [24:02] Mental health support for vulnerable communities and how Senator Cohen has created an impact. • [28:11] What drives Senator Cohen as she moves forward in government.

This week, we bring you another episode of our series on How Government Can Get Sh*t Done, as host Debbie Cox Bultan sits down with NewDEAL alumnus Jim Townsend. Jim is a former Michigan state legislator now serving as the Director of the Levin Center for Oversight and Democracy, which promotes fact-based legislative oversight as a key to the integrity, transparency, and accountability of the government. Debbie and Jim discuss the false choice between defending institutions that aren’t working and tearing the government to the ground and why DOGE and the current political climate might actually create an opportunity to remake the government to be more responsive and effective. Tune in to learn about the United States’s very first congressional oversight hearing led by General George Washington and about the specific questions policymakers should be asking to ensure that legislation is actually achieving results for constituents.  IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:04] Welcome to Jim Townsend and an overview of this episode on local government, public policy, and oversight. • [02:13] What oversight truly is and what good oversight might look like. • [06:16] The very first congressional oversight meeting that happened while George Washington was president. • [08:23] Understanding the foundation of compromise that our democracy is built on. • [10:53] Identifying the opportunity for fundamental reform that exists today. • [15:00] What local lawmakers should consider about oversight on a local level. • [18:21] Policymaking and problem-solving in local government. • [23:06] A current example of oversight that can serve as a model for others. • [26:46] Improving perception around Democratic efforts to improve government rather than demonize it. • [31:14] What originally drove Jim into public service and what keeps him there today.

This week, The NewDEAL and The Next50 announced a partnership that will build a robust pipeline of center-left talent by combining The Next 50’s electoral backing and campaign tools with the network, policy, and skills support that the NewDEAL provides. The goal is to round out a cycle of support for leaders who can win tough elections, deliver results while in office, and be the Democratic messengers who connect effectively with the broad majority of Americans. CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with NewDEAL Leader and Iowa State Senator Zach Wahls – who joins us today as Executive Director of The Next50. They share the back stories of the NewDEAL and The Next50, how they support candidates and elected leaders, and  the new partnership between the organizations. They also discuss why it's so important to have young people serving in elected office, what we can learn from NewDEAL and The Next50 leaders about winning swing districts, and why building community is crucial to developing effective leaders. Tune in to learn more about how the NewDEAL and The Next50 are advancing the next generation of Democratic leaders.   IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:05] An introduction to Senator Wahls and The New Deal’s partnership with The Next 50. • [02:00] The philosophy behind The Next 50 and the work it continues to do today. • [06:04] Three distinct phases of political life: campaigning, governing, and home life. • [08:09] Criteria that guide Senator Wahls in choosing which leaders to endorse. • [12:40] Why taking a pragmatic approach to governance resonates in competitive states. • [15:20] Insight into the shared aim of The New Deal and The Next 50 to improve the visibility of great elected officials. • [18:53] Conversations around the high stakes of government in 2025. • [22:36] Learning from the urgency and speed with which the DOGE administration has acted. • [25:20] How a variety of lived experiences can bring important perspectives to government. • [29:30] Support provided for young leaders by The New Deal and The Next 50.

This week, host Ryan Coonerty speaks with Fairfax County, VA, County Supervisor James Walkinshaw as he navigates the significant  impact of Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency  on his community amid firings of federal employees who safeguard our national security, energy, social security, public health, and much more. Walkinshaw discusses how these cuts impact families, morale, and the politics of Virginia. He also talks about his path to public office, from his decade serving as Chief of Staff to Congressman Gerry Connolly to his transition to local office, worrying about sewer lines and trash, which he finds even more rewarding. Tune in to hear Walkinshaw’s outlook on Virginia’s elections later this year and what they might mean for the rest of the country in 2026 and 2028. IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:04] Introducing County Supervisor James Walkinshaw and our conversation with him. • [02:21] How the Federal workforce is responding to Elon Musk and DOGE. • [04:29] Walkinshaw’s perspective on the Federal Government’s ability to respond to national need. • [06:50] The shifting role of nonpartisan governance and the future of government careers. • [09:03] Why Supervisor Walkinshaw likes to think of local government as the end of the line. • [11:47] What local government focuses on and how this interacts with its other levels. • [14:13] Addressing the changing needs of the fast-growing Fairfax County. • [17:00] His journey to public service as a member of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors. • [19:43] What keeps him motivated to stay in politics through difficult times. • [21:56] Advice for anyone who wants to run for local office. • [24:34] Navigating politics in the vast state of Virginia in 2025. • [29:02] The political response to the shocking shifts that have recently occurred in the federal government.  

Faith in our government and elected officials has reached record lows in recent years. In 2023, trust in government institutions plummeted to 16%, marking one of the lowest points in history, and, in 2024, 49% of Americans – a plurality of respondents – asserted that the very foundation of our government, our democracy, was not working. This episode kicks off our limited series How Government Can Get Sh*t Done. In this series, hosts Debbie Cox Bultan and Ryan Coonerty will be joined by political scientists, policy experts, authors, and elected officials as they explore how to make government more effective and responsive, delivering tangible results that improve lives. For today’s conversation, Debbie speaks with Jennifer Pahlka, who has decades of experience in civic technology. She was U.S. Deputy Chief Technology Officer under former President Obama and recently authored  the book, Recoding America: Why Government is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better. Debbie and Jennifer talk about the factors that often make government slow or ineffective and what the Department of Government Efficiency is getting wrong about cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. Jennifer shares her advice for elected officials from prioritizing civil service reform to investing in digital and data infrastructure and the importance of measuring results. Tune in to hear how Democrats can go on offense against DOGE by championing thoughtful and lawful systemic improvements.   IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:05] Introducing An Honorable Profession’s new series: How Government Can Get Sh*t Done. • [02:17] Welcome to Jennifer Pahlka who served as US Deputy Chief Technology Officer under President Obama. • [04:53] How to not lose sight of the real problems that need evolving. • [09:40] Why efficiency is a byproduct of government rather than a goal. • [11:17] Differentiating between creating regulations and making government work. • [16:24] Four things government officials can do to facilitate interaction. • [18:12] How LLMs can support efficiency. • [21:56] What it might look like to care more about the outcome than the bill. • [25:41] How to know the true status of your bureaucracy. • [28:10] Understanding why bureaucracy is risk adverse. • [30:28] Jennifer’s journey to public service. • [32:20] How tech can build a better world for those who most need it.

This week, host and NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with San José, CA, Mayor Matt Mahan, who was elected two years ago on his promise to tackle the city’s most intractable problems like homelessness, crime, and traffic. Mayor Mahan talks about his recently announced "Responsibility to Shelter” initiative, which makes historic investments in intermittent housing and supportive shelters while creating accountability for homeless residents to go indoors. Debbie and the mayor also discuss his advocacy for California’s Proposition 36, which increases penalties for petty theft and public drug use and which passed as a ballot measure with over 68% of the vote last November. Mahan reflects on the opposition he faced from Democratic colleagues on the issue and the lessons he learned from that experience on how Democrats can strengthen their message on crime, homelessness, and the role of good governance. And, as the mayor of the capital of Silicon Valley, and co-chair of the NewDEAL Forum AI Task Force, he explains how the city is utilizing artificial intelligence to improve government services, including by optimizing bus routes and detecting and repairing potholes. Tune in to hear about Mayor Mahan's journey from his rural hometown to his career in tech startups and what inspired him to run for elected office.  IN THIS EPISODE: • [02:21] Responsibility to Shelter: holding unhoused individuals accountable. • [06:07] Expanding low-barrier housing with dignity and support in the face of controversy. • [08:40] Addressing addiction and mental health as public health crises. • [10:32] Proposition 36 and the need for more inpatient mental health and addiction treatment. • [14:54] A political perspective: why Democrats must prioritize results-driven governance. • [18:34] Using AI to make government better by improving transit, city services, and efficiency. • [22:38] How San Jose uses performance-based budgeting to drive its four key priorities. • [26:26] Mayor Mahan’s theory of change and the role of government in delivering real results. • [29:19] His journey from small farming town to tech entrepreneur to public servant.    

This week, host Ryan Coonerty speaks with Albany, NY, Mayor Kathy Sheehan, who is approaching the end of a 12 year tenure in which she has guided her city out of bankruptcy, spearheaded pivotal redevelopment projects, and cut childhood poverty rates. She reflects on the challenges of navigating a rapidly evolving world to modernize city services and the importance of work that is not initially visible to most residents. Sheehan also shares her approach to integrating new technologies into City Hall to efficiently respond to the needs of community members, the bright economic future of Albany, and how she faced off against her own brother-in-law on a key workforce housing project. Tune in to hear Mayor Sheehan's advice for fellow elected officials and public servants on how to bring a citizen-first approach to policymaking. IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:03] Introduction and welcome to Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan. • [02:03] Advice for other cities that want to see transformation in a changing world. • [04:34] Getting funding in place to transform the technical and adaptive aspects of Albany’s infrastructure. • [08:20] Tracking concerns and creating accountability through technology. • [09:35] Upgrading and preserving a city that originated in the 1600s. • [14:12] Economic opportunities in Albany and Mayor Sheehan’s predictions for the city’s future. • [18:08] The impact of market-rate housing on the affordable market. • [22:20] How Mayor Kathy’s background has impacted her experience of working in leadership. • [25:50] Her journey to running for office and advice to those who might want to follow suit. • [31:10] Sticking with her plan to prioritize redevelopment despite opposition.

This week, host and NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with Texas State Representative Salman Bhojani, as he navigates his newest role as Vice Chair of the House DOGE Committee. The conversation digs into the contentious election of Texas’s new Speaker of the House and why Democrats backed moderate Representative Dustin Burrows against more conservative options, as well as how Bhojani has successfully navigated the legislature’s political dynamics to pass legislation on religious freedom and higher education funding as a member of the Democratic minority. Bhojani also talks about his work in Texas’s newly formed DOGE Committee, his goal to leverage technology to make government work better, and how he hopes to work with colleagues across the aisle to focus the committee’s work on  government efficiency and creating better policy outcomes in contrast to the arbitrary and  reckless approach on display in Washington. Tune in to hear Representative Bhojani's inspiring path to elected office as the first-ever Muslim and South Asian in the Texas state legislature.   IN THIS EPISODE:  • [01:04] Texas State Representative Salman Bhojani describes his work as Vice-Chair of the Texas House DOGE Committee. • [05:40] Electing the new Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives – how it happened. • [08:32] How politics differs from policy – bipartisan efforts in a time of great divisions. • [10:17] The bills/laws Salman has passed and how he’s done it as a minority in a red state. • [13:05] Unpacking the bill that got away and how he prevents future vetoes. • [14:03] The work that the TXH DODGE Committee is prioritizing for the immediate future. • [19:00] Salman’s stance on technology, and whether his colleagues share his optimism. • [22:17] Oversight committees, and how to measure the success of enacted bills. • [25:07] DOGE at the Federal level versus DOGE at the State level. • [26:17] Salman’s path to becoming the first Muslim, South-Asian State Legislature in Texas. • [32:46] Whether Islamophobia is better or worse since Salman took office.