

An Honorable Profession
The NewDEAL
Restore your faith in government with An Honorable Profession. Every Thursday, co-hosts Ryan Coonerty and Debbie Cox Bultan sit down with rising state and local Democrats, policy experts, and the nation’s top political minds for empowering and candid conversations about life in public service and government. Together with their guests – which include members of the Biden Administration, state legislators nationwide, and mayors from America’s top cities – Ryan and Debbie discuss the biggest issues facing Americans today and the decisive role that state and local leaders play in catalyzing progressive, pragmatic solutions.
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An Honorable Profession is produced by the NewDEAL. For more AHP and NewDEAL content, visit https://newdealleaders.org/ and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook, and YouTube.
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An Honorable Profession is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it.
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Jul 24, 2025 • 35min
How to Respond to Natural Disasters with Hawaii State Senator Troy Hashimoto
In this week’s episode, co-host Ryan Coonerty sits down with Hawaii State Senator Troy Hashimoto. They reflect on the devastating 2023 Maui wildfires, including lessons around preparing for and building resilience against natural disasters, as well as best practices for coordinating disaster safety efforts across multiple levels of government. Senator Hashimoto also discusses his efforts to address Maui’s housing crisis and improve the local economy after tourism took a major hit from COVID and the fires. In addition, he explains how he approaches his legislative leadership roles as the Assistant Majority Whip, and Vice-Chair of the Housing Committee. Tune in to learn about Senator Troy Hashimoto's path to public service and the reasons why Maui should be your next destination. IN THIS WEEK'S EPISODE: • [00:00] State Senator Troy Hashimoto shares his protocol for natural disasters. • [05:11] How to prepare and build resilience for the next disaster. • [09:24] The Senator’s recommendations for cross-government disaster safety coordination. • [12:05] Understanding Maui’s housing crisis and how Senator Hashimoto is addressing it. • [17:49] The ins and outs of the Land Exchanges Bill that he championed. • [19:39] How Senator Troy Hashimoto got into public service, and his path to Senator. • [24:10] The challenges of state legislative leadership, and Maui’s general political stance. • [27:56] Assessing Maui’s tourism economy: Past, present, and future. • [32:18] Senator Troy Hashimoto’s top reasons for why you should visit Maui.

Jul 17, 2025 • 27min
How to be a Blue Dot in a Red State with Alabama Representative Phillip Ensler
In this week's episode, NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with Alabama State Representative Phillip Ensler. They talk about the recent legislative session and unpack the realities of working in the legislature during Trump’s second administration. Ensler talked about his work to pass bipartisan common-sense gun reform after many years of trying. He details his path to public service, his time with Teach for America, his work with fellow NewDEALer and Mayor Steven Reed during the pandemic, and his experience as the first Jewish legislator in his state in the last fifty years. Tune in for Ensler’s words of wisdom for Democrats on how to find common ground. IN THIS EPISODE: • [01:05] Welcome and introduction to Representative Phillip Ensler. • [02:15] Insights from the first legislative session since President Donald Trump’s election. • [03:25] Representative Ensler’s experience building common ground around issues in Alabama. • [07:30] What is top of mind in Montgomery at the moment. • [11:06] Expectations constituents have of the legislature. • [13:08] His journey to public service after working at Teach for America. • [15:57] Transitioning from working in the city to working in the state. • [18:35] Working at the Jewish Federation of Central Alabama and how Phillip’s faith influences him. • [21:49] How those who work in public service can welcome new folks who wish to serve. • [23:59] Advice for how the National Democratic Party can move forward.

Jul 10, 2025 • 32min
How to Stand Up and Be Counted with Lieutenant Governor Juliana Stratton
In this week’s episode, NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with Illinois Lieutenant Governor and U.S. Senate Candidate Juliana Stratton. They discuss how the Pritzker-Stratton administration has improved healthcare and unemployment, and how they've built a balanced budget that will help carry Illinois into a brighter future. Stratton talks about Trump’s irresponsible budget bill and the differences between the chaos of Washington and a well-governed state like Illinois. Stratton also shares why improving healthcare is personal for her as well as why she chose to run for public office, the story of Governor JB Pritzker asking her to be his running mate, and what running marathons has taught her about politics. Tune in to learn how you can “take a stand and be counted.” IN THIS EPISODE: • [00:00] Lieutenant Governor Juliana Stratton differentiates between Washington’s approach to Trump’s budget and healthcare and what she and her team are doing in Illinois. • [06:37] Improving Illinois’ budget: How she meets her goals even with limited funds. • [10:59] Why Illinoisans are most concerned with having representatives who fight for them. • [14:15] Understanding what drew Lieutenant Governor Stratton to run for public office. • [17:47] Her experience of being picked as Governor JB Pritzker’s running mate. • [21:14] Why she’s running for U.S. Senate and what she hopes to bring. • [26:20] The lessons she’s learned as a marathon runner and how she uses them in politics. • [28:48] An important story about her dad illustrating what keeps her motivated.

Jul 3, 2025 • 24min
How Mountain View City Councilmember Chris Clark connects Tech and Local Government
Recorded at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Atlanta, GA, this week’s episode features co-host Ryan Coonerty in conversation with former Mountain View City, CA Mayor-now-Councilmember Chris Clark. Clark describes how he balances working for tech companies by day and the interests of the Mountain View community by night. They talk about how lessons learned in tech can be applied to improve local governments, how Clark transitioned from his upbringing in rural Illinois to the Silicon Valley, and his journey from being Mountain View’s youngest elected official and mayor to now a longstanding councilmember. Ryan and Clark also discuss how Mountain View operates, their relationship with the major tech companies in the area, how big companies in small communities affect housing in that area, and the role of policymakers in maintaining healthy standards of living for constituents. Tune in to learn how Clark manages his daily duties and how he maintains efficacy in all spaces. IN THIS EPISODE: • [00:00] Chris Clark describes his balancing act of working for both big tech and the people. • [02:50] Exploring the broken telephone between tech companies and local governments. • [04:19] Lessons learned from tech that could also work to improve local government. • [06:37] Chris walks us through his journey from rural Illinois to the heart of Silicon Valley. • [09:20] Evolving from Mountain View’s youngest mayor to an experienced councilmember. • [11:25] Legacy building, and unpacking Mountain View City and its relationship with big tech. • [14:18] How the presence of large companies affects housing, and the role of policymaking. • [19:25] The way Chris balances his daily duties to be effective in all the roles he plays. • [21:06] Assessing the next steps in his career.

Jun 26, 2025 • 25min
How to Lead from the Minority with Georgia Representative Sam Park
Recorded at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Atlanta, GA, this week’s episode features co-host Ryan Coonerty in conversation with Georgia House Democratic Whip Sam Park, the son of a Korean Immigrant and the first openly gay man elected to the Georgia’s Legislature. Park talks about his journey to public office, his efforts to fight for healthcare after his mom got stage four cancer, how he advocates in a minority, and how he keeps hope in these difficult times. The conversation delves into how to recruit candidates who can change Georgia”s political landscape and how Park crafts policy that reflects the lived experiences of the people he represents. They also outline Parks’s priorities, including Medicaid expansion, voting rights, and clean energy, and how he aims to make progress with a Republican majority. Tune in to learn about Representative Park's story and how he remains hopeful amid deep political polarization. IN THIS EPISODE: • [01:04] Introducing Georgia State Representative Sam Park and his historic election win. • [02:25] How his mother’s cancer diagnosis and Georgia’s move to block Medicaid expansion compelled him to run for office. • [03:41] Rep. Park’s advice for first-time candidates and how he found his “why.” • [04:58] Early campaign moments, including the first door knock that changed his perspective. • [06:22] How Democrats can better recruit nontraditional candidates and win in swing districts. • [08:47] Rep. Park’s assessment of Georgia’s political landscape and its role nationally, from his perspective as minority whip. • [09:56] Policies that Democrats could advance if they held the majority in the Georgia Legislature, including education and clean energy. • [13:38] What keeps him hopeful amid gerrymandering, voter suppression, and political polarization, and strategies for leveling the playing field. • [16:02] Rep. Park’s experience running as the first openly gay man for the Georgia House. • [17:38] Reflections on the growing Asian American representation in Georgia politics. • [19:15] How navigating minority-party politics in Georgia mirrors the national fight against Trump-era threats to democracy. • [22:38] His message to future leaders: lean in, act with purpose, and fight for democracy.

Jun 19, 2025 • 27min
How Democrats Restore Trust in Government with Congressman Greg Landsman
In this week’s episode, host and NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks with Congressman Greg Landsman who represents Ohio’s 1st Congressional District. Landsman is a member of the New Democrat Coalition and co-host of the new podcast, The Fly-In. They talk about the effects of the “One Big Beautiful Bill” that passed the House by one vote - highlighting the massive unpopular cut to health care and food assistance programs that the legislation would slash to pay for tax cuts for the super-wealthy. Landsman shares what Democrats can do to help their constituents better understand legislation, as well as how he has prioritized government transparency and efforts like preventing members of Congress from trading stocks as part of his work to restore trust in government. Tune in to learn why Greg Landsman believes Democrats should be tough not mean and his work to lead a proactive Democratic agenda that can deliver for the American people. IN THIS EPISODE: • [01:43] Congressman Greg Landsman walks us through the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. • [04:20] Outlining vital aspects of the bill, and how to speak about it with constituents. • [05:45] Greg’s thoughts on government effectiveness, transparency, and accountability. • [09:19] Why government reform needs to happen across both aisles. • [12:05] Bipartisan compromise, and why such collaboration is more unusual than common. • [16:25] What Democrats need to do to win back control and change the current trajectory. • [20:35] Walking the line between toughness, decency, and getting things done. • [23:54] Why authenticity matters more than ever in 2025. • [24:54] How the Congressman got into politics, and the ins and outs of The Fly-In podcast.

Jun 12, 2025 • 38min
How to Serve Rural America and Make Bipartisan Progress with Senator Dylan Roberts
In this week’s episode, host and NewDEAL CEO Debbie Cox Bultan speaks to Colorado State Senator Dylan Roberts. Roberts represents a swing district in the Western part of his state - including ski resort towns, mountain communities, and rural areas. Roberts discusses how he set priorities for this year's legislative session, including what it took to close a $1.2 billion dollar shortfall, as well as his work to pass two bipartisan housing bills to increase supply and bring down costs. He details what he hears from his constituents, as well as what Democrats often misunderstand about rural communities in his state, and emphasizes the need for mutual understanding across party lines. Tune in to learn about Dylan Roberts’ Obama days and what inspired him to run for public office. IN THIS EPISODE: • [01:47] Welcoming Senator Dylan Roberts to the show. • [02:16] How Colorado’s 2025 Legislative Session went and the overarching theme. • [05:44] The major housing concern and what his strategy is to tackle this. • [10:50] Senator Roberts shares advice for leaders wanting to get legislation passed. • [13:45] Why the housing problem is basically the same across all areas. • [16:58] What National Democrats misunderstand about rural areas in Colorado. • [19:58] Why he believes mutual understanding from all factions of parties is imperative. • [21:56] The biggest issues Senator Dylan sees coming up at town halls. • [26:52] How working with President Obama and his brother inspired him to get into politics.

Jun 5, 2025 • 39min
How Government Can Get Sh*t Done: Marc Dunkelman on Why Nothing Works
This week, we bring you another episode of our series on How Government Can Get Sh*t Done, as co-host Ryan Coonerty sits down with Marc Dunkelman, professor and author of Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress- and How to Bring it Back. Marc discusses the barrier preventing the government from solving problems and achieving broadly shared goals, what it will take to instigate meaningful change, the lessons we’ve learned from Trump’s second term in office, and how building more housing fits into progressivism and government reform. They also talk about The Vanishing Neighbor: The Transformation of American Community - Marc’s decade-old book that still holds weight today – and the importance of making decisions when it’s in everyone’s best interest. IN THIS EPISODE: • [00:00] Author Marc Dunkelman describes his latest book, Why Nothing Works. • [04:03] Balancing the Jeffersonian and Madisonian approaches to governance. • [06:08] The levels of government where power is best yielded to effect meaningful change. • [10:46] Lessons learned from the second Trump administration. • [15:48] How housing aligns with progressive thought and how it fits into government reform. • [20:22] Marc’s The Vanishing Neighbor: how it’s more relevant now than 10 years ago. • [27:06] Making big decisions, with everyone’s input, and knowing not everyone will be happy. • [31:26] More examples of why making decisions is vital for progress. • [36:18] The mentality holding progressives back and what they can do to overcome it.

May 29, 2025 • 25min
How to Turn Environmental Science into Pragmatic Policy with Rep. Lindsay Cross
Recorded at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Atlanta, GA, this week’s special episode features co-host Ryan Coonerty in conversation with Florida House State Representative Lindsay Cross. An environmental scientist, Cross discusses how she draws on personal experiences to fight for the preservation of wetlands and endangered species across Florida. She highlights the bills she has recently championed to improve responses to natural disasters and aid recovery and to enact fair housing policies. Ryan and Representative Cross also talk about what it might take to move Florida back to being a blue state and how to better integrate scientific evidence into decision-making. IN THIS EPISODE: • [01:06] Florida State Representative Lindsay Cross. • [02:14] Key issues, policies, and concerns in Florida today. • [07:05] How Lindsay’s role shifted from doing environmental work in the field to being in the state house. • [08:38] Advice for those looking to move from environmental science into government. • [11:00] Communication advice for those looking to change policy in the environmental field. • [12:42] Why specificity is so powerful when advocating for issues at government level. • [15:00] Advice for democrats and non-partisan officials who want to be successful. • [16:14] How realism keeps Representative Cross motivated. • [19:42] Why more collaboration from the business community may be the key to greater resilience in our communities. • [22:05] Lindsay’s work to create possibilities for voting in disaster areas.

May 22, 2025 • 25min
How to Turn Illness into Advocacy with Ohio State Representative Dontavius Jarrells
Recorded at the NewDEAL Forum Ideas Summit in Atlanta, GA, this week’s special episode features co-host Ryan Coonerty in conversation with Ohio House Assistant Minority Leader Dontavius Jarrells. Rep. Jarrells speaks candidly about his childhood experience with lead poisoning, channeling his identity as a survivor of the devastating illness into advocacy as he works to pass comprehensive laws to reduce children’s lead exposure through the legislature. He also talks about the difficulties of serving in a Democratic superminority, how he draws on his experiences growing up in Cleveland’s Hough neighborhood to advocate for underserved communities, and the personal cost of public service. Jarrells also talks about his legislative priorities and the seven laws he passed since being elected in 2020 despite the doubts from naysayers. Tune in to learn about the values that keep Rep. Jarrells’ in the fight even at the bleakest of times. • [01:04] Introduction to and background on Ohio State Representative Dontavius Jarrells. • [03:15] Fulfilling experiences that expanded his perspective to want to create change. • [06:54] Three buckets in which Dontavius thinks of his role in the legislature. • [09:10] The heart of his work in the legislature. • [10:39] How he came to pass seven laws since being elected in 2020. • [13:56] What it meant for Ohio to have Issue One on the ballot recently. • [16:18] Factors that keep Dontavius in the fight. • [18:17] How he motivates others to stay positive about the change the government can bring. • [20:45] His approach to dedicating his time between sessions and over the next decade. • [23:07] Contributing to the chain of excellence.