

The Simpleton Podcast | Catholic Culture, Mission, and Politics with Clark Massey and Laura Hehman
Clark Massey and Laura Hehman
Welcome to The Simpleton Podcast with Clark Massey and Laura Hehman!
Clark is the founder of A Simple House of Sts. Francis and Alphonsus, a Catholic inner-city outreach ministry in Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Laura was one of the first missionaries to join the ministry, and is still involved today.
The vision of The Simpleton Podcast is to discuss Catholic culture, mission, and politics through the lens of the Catholic laity.
New episodes (almost) every Thursday!
To learn more about A Simple House, visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/
Clark is the founder of A Simple House of Sts. Francis and Alphonsus, a Catholic inner-city outreach ministry in Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Laura was one of the first missionaries to join the ministry, and is still involved today.
The vision of The Simpleton Podcast is to discuss Catholic culture, mission, and politics through the lens of the Catholic laity.
New episodes (almost) every Thursday!
To learn more about A Simple House, visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/
Episodes
Mentioned books

Apr 29, 2024 • 56min
Catholicism & Politics | The Simpleton Podcast with Clark Massey & Laura Hehman
Clark and Laura discuss why (and when) Catholics should get involved in politics in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
Also in this episode:
• Listener feedback (and our responses)
• The culture of mission work
• Boeing, Israel-Palestine episode follow-ups
• American exceptionalism
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0:00 Intro & preview
0:30 Listener feedback! (broadly)
1:20 Catholicism & politics
14:20 Mission work and the culture around it
21:21 American exceptionalism
32:16 Evil is a 4-letter word
36:27 A black swan event and Doomers
42:26 Future episode previews
42:43 Listener feedback! (specifically) / Boeing ep. comments
50:42 Israel-Palestine (and why we've taken down two TSP episodes)
51:42 More listener feedback
55:11 Outro
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
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Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Apr 4, 2024 • 38min
10 Rules for Your Day | The Simpleton Podcast with Clark Massey & Laura Hehman
Clark and Laura share the "10 Rules for A Day", a guide for committing your day to God, written by (a saint to be revealed in the episode) in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
In this episode:
• The 10 Rules
• Who wrote them?
• An ASH request
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro & signpost
0:37 The 10 Rules
3:44 Rule #1
9:13 Rule #2
15:50 Rule #3
21:09 Rule #4
22:19 Rule #5
24:29 Rule #6
26:38 Rule #7
29:41 Rule #8
30:47 Rule #9
32:43 Rule #10
34:24 Conclusion
35:30 Who wrote these rules??
37:00 An ASH request
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Mar 21, 2024 • 52min
Western Thought Bubble, Is Reform Possible? | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark and Laura discuss the role of government, what the government should be doing, and what's possible for the United States in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
In this episode:
• Surveillance states
• Thought-bubbles and Catholic alternatives
• Argentina & El Salvador
• Western worldviews
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Chapters:
0:00 Start
1:04 “Thought-Bubble” of our times & the Overton Window
5:39 Your own experience vs. what others tell you
9:35 Classical education, Western worldviews
15:48 What NOT to do
16:57 Thought-experiment: what does the government do?
22:08 Argentina & El Salvador, and the future of the Thought-Bubble
39:08 What’s possible for the USA?
42:54 Surveillance states
46:36 Final thoughts
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Mar 14, 2024 • 42min
Being a "Baby" With God; Truth, Paradoxes, Solutions | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark and Laura continue their breakdown of the A Simple House manual with an analysis of stripping back and letting God rebuild you in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
In this episode:
• ASH Manual recap (up to now!)
• Being “exposed” before God; Clark and Laura’s experiences
• The sources of truth
• God is better than an "imaginary friend"
• Asceticism and moral purity
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:50 ASH Manual recap (up to now!)
3:19 Being “exposed” before God; Clark and Laura’s experiences
15:40 What to do about the problem?
21:40 The nature of truth
24:27 Sources of truth
35:16 Problems, paradoxes, and solutions
36:46 Asceticism and moral purity
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Mar 7, 2024 • 1h 15min
Desert Stream, Living Waters: Marco Casanova INTERVIEW | The Simpleton Podcast
Marco Casanova, Associate Director of Desert Stream Ministries, joins Clark on this episode of The Simpleton Podcast.
In this episode:
• How the Church should address taboo subjects
• Same-sex attraction, healing, and moving forward
• Desert Stream Ministries and Living Waters
• Nihilism and evangelism
• The culture of SSA (and how it's changed)
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:52 Marco’s job, Kansas City, meeting his wife
5:18 What is Desert Stream Ministries?
16:35 The culture surrounding SSA and sexuality
25:22 Purpose, nihilism, and evangelism
28:35 Do people know about Desert Stream/Living Waters?
33:52 Integrating psychology, spirituality, and sexuality
45:50 The Church, homosexuality, addressing sin, and moving forward
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Feb 15, 2024 • 37min
You're Lying to Yourself; Reality, Experience, and Self-Deception | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark and Laura discuss the relationship between reality, experience, and the spiritual life, and plenty more in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
Also in this episode:
• The ASH manual (up to now)
• Senate's "Immigration" bill
• Why Super Mario Bros. is like Catholicism
• The Karate Kid and the spiritual life
• Mount Everest records
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro & preview of episode
0:37 Summarizing the ASH manual (up to now)
3:20 Experience, reality, and getting out of self-deception
29:45 Mount Everest climbing industrial complex
31:45 The "Immigration" bill
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Feb 8, 2024 • 47min
Valentine's Day is Cancelled, Left-Behind Neighborhoods, Crime Prevention | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark and Laura discuss Valentine's Day and Lent, rules for protecting yourself from crime, how cities come to have forgotten neighborhoods, and more in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
Also in this episode:
• Love is STILL harsh and dreadful
• Crime and its many forms
• RFK Jr. and meta-politics
• Is the US a sinking ship?
• The fall of the Roman empire
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Chapters:
0:00 Start & episode preview
0:49 Love is STILL harsh and dreadful
2:40 Valentine's Day is cancelled
4:48 "Left-behind" neighborhoods
14:57 Crime and its many forms
16:51 Why the crime spike starting in 2020?
19:11 Rules to protect yourself from crime
37:35 Meta-politics, RFK Jr., USA is a sinking ship?
43:38 The fall of the Roman empire; the French revolution
46:30 WE WANT FEEDBACK ON THIS!
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PBueLuaOo&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Feb 1, 2024 • 34min
Classic Retreats, Lectio Divina, "Love is Harsh & Dreadful" | The Simpleton Podcast | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark and Laura discuss A Simple House's upcoming retreat, break down how retreats can vary, and talk Dostoevsky's "Love is a harsh and dreadful thing" quote in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast.
Also in this episode:
• Emotional retreats: good or bad?
• The workshop for this year's retreat: Paul
• News in DC/prayer request
• Laura's kids' new marketing for ASH
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:30 "Love is a harsh and dreadful thing"
6:12 Preview of (the rest of) the episode
6:50 Emotional retreats: good or bad?
11:40 The comeback of the classic retreat (and ASH's retreat)
15:15 Rules of ASH's retreat
18:32 The workshop for this year's retreat: Paul
28:22 News in DC/prayer request
32:20 Laura's kids' new marketing for ASH
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee.
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9ih3n2Fsw&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (specifically, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, RadioPublic, Pocket Casts, Breaker, and Anchor). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
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Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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Jan 18, 2024 • 1h 17min
Professional Poetry Sucks, Pope Francis Derangement Syndrome, Immigration | The Simpleton Podcast
Topics discussed include ridding oneself of faith contradictions, the Vatican's new document on blessing gay couples, culture war and woke ideology, shady immigration business, hypocrisy and bad faith, and masculinity and the future of our culture.

Dec 28, 2023 • 54min
Dr. Jonathan Reyes, Founder, Christ in the City INTERVIEW | The Simpleton Podcast
Clark sits down with Dr. Jonathan Reyes, Senior VP of Communications for the Knights of Columbus, founder of Christ in the City, founder of the Augustine Institute, and holder of many other titles in this episode of The Simpleton Podcast!
Also in this episode:
• Dr. Reyes's extensive track record
• Politics and the Catholic church
• Lay ministry in the Church today
• Is social justice still possible?
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Links:
ASH SEEK 24 Promo - 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv1lovt06Yc
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro to Dr. Jonathan Reyes (and his extensive background)
7:17 Lay ministry in the Church today
16:11 Dr. Reyes's experiences in academia, FOCUS, Augustine Institute, Catholic Charities
22:23 The USCCB and Catholic Bishops
29:06 US politics and the Catholic Church
33:36 Is social justice still possible? Morality and institutions in the US
39:14 Knights of Columbus, its roots, and fellowship in general
51:55 How to follow Christ?
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The Simpleton Podcast is also on YouTube, Rumble, and Odysee.
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0J1dfJqRw&list=PL6J5x7lptOXsnTAQRah4MhOOZwuttVNtb
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/asimplehouseU
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@asimplehouseU
You can also find the audio version of the podcast almost anywhere you stream podcasts (specifically, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, RadioPublic, Pocket Casts, Breaker, and Anchor). Just search "The Simpleton Podcast", or go to https://anchor.fm/simpletonpodcast.
---
Send us feedback! Email: asimplehouse@gmail.com
A Simple House is a Catholic ministry that serves project and Section 8 neighborhoods in southeast Washington, DC and Kansas City, MO. Missionaries strive to meet the material and spiritual needs of the poor while living a simple religious life. Each missionary attends daily Mass, says morning and evening prayer from the Catholic Church's Liturgy of the Hours, and makes time for personal prayer and scripture study.
Visit https://www.asimplehouse.org/ to learn more about A Simple House and The Simpleton Podcast.
YouTube - A Simple House: https://www.youtube.com/@asimplehouse.catholic
YouTube - A Simple House U (home of The Simpleton Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@ASimpleHouseU_2023
Facebook: @asimplehouse | https://www.facebook.com/@asimplehouse
Instagram: @asimplehouse.catholic | https://www.instagram.com/asimplehouse.catholic
---
Thank you to Ben Friedman from Totus Media for editing and producing The Simpleton Podcast. Totus Media is a media production company based out of Central Iowa. Totus Media is an Iowa digital media production company, social media management firm, wedding videography business, and digital marketing agency. Visit https://www.totusmedia.co/ to learn more.
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