
UnHerd with Freddie Sayers
Freddie Sayers from online magazine UnHerd seeks out top scientists, writers, politicians and thinkers for in-depth interviews to try and help us work out what’s really going on. What started as an inquiry into the pandemic has broadened into a fascinating look at free speech, science, meaning and the ideas shaping our world.Due to popular demand here is a podcast version of our YouTube — available to watch, for free here or by searching ‘LockdownTV’.Enjoy! And don't forget to rate, like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Feb 24, 2022 • 32min
Konstantin Kisin: Has the media got Ukraine wrong?
Freddie Sayers meets Konstantin Kisin.Following the full-scale invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army, pundits from mainstream and alternative media platforms across the political spectrum have been left eating humble pie. Predictions of Russia’s next move as troops built up on the border have ranged from blaming hawkish Americans for hyping up a non-existent threat, to claims that Putin was using the standoff to make himself an international talking point. Now that it is clear that Putin is done with talking and intends to take action, we are left wondering: who can we trust on Ukraine? To puzzle out this question, Freddie Sayers sat down for an emergency episode with Konstantin Kisin, host of the Triggernometry podcast and YouTube channel.Read the Post article here: Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 15, 2022 • 25min
What the Moderna share price reveals about vaccines
Freddie Sayers meets Louis-Vincent Gave.Since the end of November 2021, Moderna's share price has been falling dramatically, from $368 to $147 at the time of writing.Why might this be? And what does it tell us about the vaccines more generally?Freddie Sayers sat down with Louis Gave, a financial analyst and co-founder of Gavekal, a financial services firm based in Hong Kong. Gave noted that the markets had been ahead of politicians and even epidemiologists on the Omicron variant in terms of its lethality, but also evidently they had determined that vaccines were not the ‘silver bullet’ solution they were initially sold as. What may be taboo to say in political circles is more bluntly put when people are betting their money on the outcome.Read The Post here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 14, 2022 • 36min
Glenn Loury: Reject race politics and embrace humanity
Freddie Sayers meets Glenn Loury.To get a handle on some of the race related news stories coming out of America, from Biden’s Supreme Court nomination to Joe Rogan’s cancellation, Freddie Sayers spoke to Glenn Loury, an economist and cultural critic. Loury was the first African American tenured professor of economics in the history of Harvard University and has set himself apart from his contemporaries by taking a sceptical view of the racialised rhetoric of American academia. In this wide-ranging conversation he discusses model minorities, Black Lives Matter and Whoopi Goldberg's alleged anti-semitism.Read the full article here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 3, 2022 • 1h 9min
UnHerd Live: Where does feminism go next?
Featuring: Mary Harrington, Julie Bindel, Hadley Freeman and Sally Chatterton.It wasn’t long ago that feminism was a united movement resisting the patriarchal systems of old. Now, disputes between factions of feminists take up as much time as the fight for women’s liberation.To dig a little deeper into the points of schism and solidarity in fourth wave feminism, UnHerd invited activist and author Julie Bindel and columnists Hadley Freeman and Mary Harrington to an evening at the Art Workers’ Guild.The panel, chaired by UnHerd Editor Sally Chatterton, discussed their alliances and conflicts on the subjects of gender identity, sex work, surrogacy, motherhood and sexuality.In our divided times, where does feminism go next?Read The Post article here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 31, 2022 • 35min
Denmark's state modeller: Why we've ended ALL Covid laws
Freddie Sayers meets Dr Camilla Holten-Møller, chair of the Expert Group for Mathematical Modelling at Denmark’s public health agency ‘Statens Serum Institut’.Holten-Møller was in charge of producing the models before Christmas that informed Danish policy, and her group’s updated advice in January led to the cancellation of all Danish Covid restrictions (even as case numbers continue to climb to all-time highs). She joins UnHerd to discuss Denmark's radical new policy, data modelling and why Omicron might be the end of the pandemic.Read the Post article here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 26, 2022 • 46min
Kate Clanchy: "My life's work has been taken away"
Freddie Sayers meets Kate Clanchy.Kate Clanchy is a writer, teacher, and editor. She has been a qualified and practicing teacher since she was 22. Her writing includes three prize-winning collections of poetry, the Costa First Novel Prize-shortlisted Meeting the English, and the Orwell Prize-winning memoir Some Kids I Taught and What They Taught Me. Last summer her work came under sustained criticism for its purportedly insensitive depictions of her students. Picador, her publisher until last week, did not come to her defence. Instead her students, who feature in her memoir, and in collections of their wiring like England Poem from A School, that Clanchy edited, supported her alone.Last September, at least 20 of them wrote an open letter to The Bookseller defending her. They said their personal experiences of Clanchy were of “unequivocal care and support for us… as poets and as people”. They said they wanted to push back against suggestions that they “may be victims in some capacity.” They said Clanchy’s support gave them confidence as poets.The furore around Clanchy made headlines across the UK last summer. She came to the UnHerd studio to discuss her experiences — of teaching, writing, and cancel culture — for the first time with Freddie Sayers.For more read The Post from UnHerd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 18, 2022 • 31min
Israeli vaccine advisor: "We have made mistakes"
In a wide-ranging and forthright interview with Freddie Sayers, Professor Cyrille Cohen, head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government said:- The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept was no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expected it to be in short order in Israel)- He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped- The biggest mistake of the pandemic in Israel was closing schools and education – he apologised for that- Widespread infection is now an inevitable part of future immunity — otherwise known as herd immunity- Omicron has accelerated the pandemic into the endemic phase, in which Covid will be “like flu”For more read The Post from UnHerd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 12, 2022 • 37min
Dr Steve James: I’m willing to lose my job over vaccine mandates
Steve James is a critical care consultant at King’s College Hospital in London. When Health Secretary Sajid Javid visited last Friday, he asked the NHS staff about what they thought of the forthcoming mandates that will make Covid vaccination a condition of deployment for NHS staff. Dr James spoke out, saying why he was against the mandate and why he hadn’t taken the vaccine himself.It made headlines across the UK media, in particular coming from a Cambridge-educated NHS frontline doctor. Dr James came in to the UnHerd studio to explain his position in more detail to Freddie Sayers.While he does not think of himself as ‘anti-vax’ (he dislikes the label), he argues that there’s nothing wrong with individuals preferring not to take vaccines if they so choose. Nevertheless, he accepts that vaccines have had an important effect on Covid hospitalisation rates. “Undoubtedly the vaccines have made a big difference,” he says.But he objects to the simplistic messaging around vaccination, saying that because Covid is so much more dangerous to older people and vulnerable groups, the insistence on universal vaccination (including making examples of people who refuse) is inappropriate.Dr James has had Covid (he doesn’t know when, but tests positive for antibodies). But he admits he hadn’t taken the vaccine even for the period of months before he tested for antibodies, because he preferred to wait a period to fully understand the extent of any side effects.For more read The Post from UnHerd Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 31, 2021 • 1h 22min
2021: Year in Review with Freddie Sayers, Aris Roussinos and Mary Harrington
UnHerd's contributors look back at a tumultuous year.The year began with riots in Capitol Hill in Washington and the removal of Donald Trump from social media; in March Meghan and Harry gave their interview to Oprah from a Los Angeles mansion, and in April Prince Phillip passed away; Western troops departed Afghanistan, leaving chaotic scenes in the capital Kabul; Maya Forstater was judged by the courts to be legally entitled to her gender critical viewpoints — and Kathleen Stock was forced out of Sussex University; bitcoin became formal tender in its first nation state; and Covid dominated public policy for the second year running.Freddie Sayers is joined by Aris Roussinos and Mary Harrington to look back on a tumultuous and consequential year.For the full story check out The Post from UnHerd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 22, 2021 • 26min
Brian Pottinger: Why South Africans are refusing the vaccine
As new data about the Omicron variant is interpreted (and perhaps predictably, misinterpreted) by experts worldwide, South Africa has become a coronavirus case-study under global surveillance. Last week, UnHerd spoke to Pieter Streicher about the data coming out of Gauteng, but we now wanted to look at the bigger picture in that country.To get a snapshot into the cultural and political reality on the ground, Freddie Sayers sat down with Brian Pottinger, former Editor of the South African Sunday Times. He joined UnHerd from his home on the KwaZulu Natal North Coast.For the full story check out The Post from UnHerd Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.