Animal Training Academy

3:00 - Trish shares where she began her positive reinforcement animal training journey. 7:00 - Trish explains how she started working in a shelter environment, how it led to working with the San Francisco’s SPCA and developed into the opportunity to work towards achieving a Master’s Degree in Animal Behaviour. 11:00 - Trish and Ryan discuss the opportunity Trish created to speak with Dr Sophia Yin and the early training Trish dog with her Dalmatian. 12:30 - Ryan asks more about Trish’s experience when she wanted to adopt her first dog from a shelter. 13:00 - Trish explains her ‘No 1’ take home lesson that she shares with all her new clients 16:15 - Trish and Ryan discuss Stanley Milgram’s’ study on the “Obedience to Authority” and the effects this can have on our behaviour. 19:30 - Ryan asks Trish about her experience with her more challenging foster dogs that she & how it helped her understand some of the hard decisions she has to make 24:40 - Ryan asks Trish what mindset and experiences would be of value for trainers that are looking to enter a shelter environment to expand their skills and knowledge. 30:00 - Trish explains how she has become a co-founder of a grief support group with Sue Alexander to help people who have had to euthanise their pets on behaviour grounds. 35:00 - Ryan asks Trish to expand on her 5 main thoughts on what will help to improve shelters become more successful fin 2020 and beyond. 46:20 - Ryan asks Trish about neglect cases and how to help people care better for their dogs. 49:30 - Ryan and Trish discuss further the concept of ‘start with yes’ when discussing animal adoptions and how to address neglect, animal hoarding and cruelty situations. 52:00 - Ryan asks Trish about the concepts of shifting some of the paradigms that are linked around the shelter adoption processes and concepts. 57:45 - Ryan asks Trish if she has any tips on helping people bring ideas into the shelters that they may already be helping and where to find useful resources. 1:00:15 - Trish shares her final point on what she thinks we will see happen in the next 5-10 years in the shelter world.

1:20 - Ryan introduces Sonya Bevan 4:00 - Sonya takes Ryan and the listeners back to where she first learned about positive reinforcement training and the journey from a career in being a physio to a behaviour consultant and dog trainer. 19:10 - Ryan asks how Sonya’s background in physio has helped her in her new profession. 20:20 - Sonya explains the assessment process she uses in her dog training and behaviour consultants. 24:15 - Ryan is curious if Sonya has a process for data collection and asks her for thoughts on helping people review their own processes for improving data collection. 28:10 - Ryan asks Sonya about her free video series. 29:20 - Sonya describes what she has learnt through the period of building the video library with her dog Zuri and how being courageous and sharing her mistakes has helped others train too. 32:00 - Ryan empathises that we often want to share our enthusiasm of positive training with others and asks Sonya how her thoughts have changed with sharing information and her enthusiasm with others. 36:50 - Ryan describes a situation where a client may be using an aversive tool and asks Sonya how to become an effective coach for the clients that are asking for help in those cases. 43:25 - Sonya describes what the year of 2020 has looked like for her through the pandemic, the change and opportunities that have arisen and explains how she has managed to overcome the feeling of being nervous and have the courage to make this podcast with Ryan. 50:20 - Sonya provides details of where to find out more about her work within her business Dog Charming. 52:10 - Ryan explain that the podcast is going be turned into 2 parts and introduces that part 2 will discuss having a dog as an amputee and the training and husbandry requirements. 53:10 - Sonya thanks Ryan for the opportunity to share her journey with the ATA Audience

3:10 - Shelly takes us back to where her journey begin with positive reinforcement animal training. 19:30 - Ryan asks Shelly to share her work with children at Epic Pals - pairing children with dogs preparing to be adopted. 23:20 - Ryan and Shelly discuss the use of PORTL and resources used in the Epic Pals program and how it impacts the children 25:00 - Ryan asks where you can find out more about Shelly’s work at ‘Drop your jaws dog training’ and ‘Epic’ 26:00 - Ryan introduces the new program that Shelly will be hosting for the ATA community. 27:45 - Shelly shares what makes it an exciting program for her to host and introduces the first members that she will be interviewing. 31:05 - Ryan reveals the expected launch date of the new podcasts! 31:50 - Ryan moves the conversation forward to look closer at Shelley’s experience with animal introductions. 33:50 - Shelly explains how she found her first foster dog and how her resources and knowledge and the ATA community has supported her through the experiences 37:15 - Ryan asks about the specific processes, techniques and strategies that have been helpful to implement when introducing new animals. 40:55 - Shelly talks us through the parallel walking process that she uses when introducing dogs 44:10 - Shelly introduces us to her new puppy, Castor and what she has been working on with him recently. 45:30 - Ryan asks a few questions regarding how Shelly has come to be able to bravely share her training and learning online with others. 49:15 - Ryan introduces a summary list: ‘5 things to consider when introducing animals in your house to each other’ 50:35 - Ryan asks Shelly what the most reinforcing part of the process is for Shelly as a human learner in the processes [when sharing your training online] 54:05 - Shelly explains how important it is to choose where you share your training videos when you want feedback and support. 55:05 - Ryan asks Shelly to return to the time when she first brought home fosters and explain what was the antecedent set up in her home to make it more successful. 57:55 - Shelly explains what she may do differently next time and her favourite moments during introductions and with her foster dog Cross. 1:00:00 - Ryan asks Shelly to travel into the future and say what she would like to see happen over the next 5-10years.

3:45 - Ryan asks about Caitlin’s PhD in Evolutionary Biology and Caitlin shares her stories and journey of how positive reinforcement training began for her. 13:35 - Ryan asks how the diverse areas of her knowledge influence and blend into Caitlin’s current work. 17:25 - Caitlin explains with an example how she asks about behaviours using a diagnostic approach when using an online platform. 18:35 - Ryan expands the discussion point in relation to online social platform (Facebook) communities and groups and how to approach conversations when emotions are involved. 20:20 - Caitlin highlights the importance of highlighting the facts but also acknowledging emotions with human connection and empathy, before moving to the questions to assist with training, behaviour and solutions. 23:00 - Caitlin’s simple recipe to help others with behavioural enquiries on social media 25:00 - Caitlin notes the benefit of honest recognition of doing things well, noting courage, bravery and giving compliments to your audience and your team is beneficial. 27:35 - Caitlin shares how they manage their Facebook group members, the knowledge that they share and bring, and meeting the goals for being in the groups. 31:05 - Caitlin notes her participation rates on the Facebook group and discusses with Ryan how she approaches different cultures, races, ethnicities and wider world topics that may be controversial but may not relate directly to dog training. 37:40 - Ryan and Caitlin discuss how she manages the comments and posts that may disagree with the community philosophy or those comments that may trigger a reactive response form members. 41:00 - Ryan asks if Caitlin has taken her knowledge of behaviour of all learners and applied a behavioural approach to managing her group members. 43:30 - Caitlin describes the effective reinforcers for people that are utilised well on social media. 48:45 - Ryan encapsulates the last point in relation to our own training relationships. 50:05 - Caitlin shares her recent experience with her new horse and how critical trust can be in the training relationship. 53:30 - Caitlin expands how trust builds with people in the interactions on posts in FB. 54:40 - Ryan asks when you are using verbal language and the information is met with distrust how does Caitlin manage the defensive responses. 59:40 - Ryan asks what Caitlin wants to see happen in the training community over the next 5-10 years and Caitlin talks through some examples of changes that need to be embraced. 1:06:05: Caitlin explains where to go to find out more.  

1:20 - Ryan introduces Chris Shank 4:50 - Chris takes us back to the start of her training journey 12:00 - Chris explains that her new education and skills were difficult to transfer to her own pets 13:25 - Ryan asks about what valuable learning opportunities occurred from Chris’s time working with dolphins in the US and in Germany. 16:45 - Chris is honest and brave about sharing her experience regarding her introduction to breeding birds and the impact to her life. 20:45 - Ryan asks about the switch in Chris’s life regarding training techniques with birds 23:20 - Chris shares her face book and email details. 24:00 - Ryan asks about the activities and events at Cockatoo Downs. 28:25 - Ryan asks Chris to discuss free-flying parrots. 40:45 - Chris expands how she discusses with people about free-flying their pet parrots as it is often controversial. 45:10 - Ryan asks if having a frank conversation about consequences about free- flying their parrots with clients help. Chris describes an example of how it can go drastically wrong. 47:45 - Ryan asks about training with parent-raised birds and chicks. 54:00 - Chris shares her final comments on the training world at this time. 55:50 - Ryan thanks Chris and wraps up the episode.

3:10 - Sean shares how he started on his training journey and how constructional affection was ‘born’ 15:50 - Ryan asks: Do some trainers have a reliance on food? Or are not looking for other methods or reinforcers? 20:20 - Sean introduces how he used CAT and CA with his own dog. 21:20 - Sean describes the procedure of Constructional Affection and outlines the two main steps required: Step 1: The interaction guidelines & Step 2: The affection required 28:07 - Sean defines the term ‘complex fading procedures’ 29:15 - Ryan asks how Sean applies the process to the dogs in the shelter and if there are some dogs are more or less suitable for this particular process. 32:30 - Sean shares the story of ‘Big Mike’ 39:10 - Sean describes that the schedule we are using is not actually a schedule of reinforcement but that the application of affection is actually a conjugate reinforcement procedure or technique. 43:20 - Ryan shares his experience with trying to apply it to his own situation at home with Fibi and Summer and asks Seans advice on the difficulties of split attention and being able to settle the dog using attention. 52:25 - Ryan asks how has constructional affection been applied with humans? 53:00 - Seans discusses the philosophies of the constructional approach. 58:15 - Ryan asks if some people have challenges with the application of the procedures. 1:03:00 - Sean explains what he would like to see occur in the next 5-10 years.

4:00 - How does the current global situation with the pandemic & subsequent change in our routines influence our animals and their behaviors. 4:20 - Malena defines and unpacks the term ‘Separation Anxiety’ 6:44 - Ryan describes his own experience of a panic attack 7:30 - Ryan asks how do we build empathy in dog owners towards the effect of a panic attack or separation anxiety 10:45 - Malena’s shares the importance of helping clients to understand ‘The Why’ of the treatment of separation anxiety. 14:25 - Ryan asks: How important is it to get honesty and truth from your clients? 16:30 - Ryan asks to know what has been the most exciting change in Malena’s thinking, methods and research since the last podcast in 2018? 17:00 - Malena discussed her new book regarding the research since 1970’s 21:35 - Malena explains that she feels that there are some specific effective treatment protocols in place now that lead to success. 24:50 - Malena shares her personal findings and thoughts on which dogs tend to show more separation anxiety than others. 29:35 - Why separation anxiety is the biggest researched behaviour related diagnosis. 31:30 - Whether the changes occurring during the global pandemic will impact our dogs and how can we assess the impact of these changes. 40:15 - Malena discusses the genetic markers that have been researched in regards to separation anxiety. 45:55 - Ryan asks if owners may have noticed signs before lockdown of dogs having a tendency of separation anxiety and Malena describes the lower level signs of distress that get ‘missed’ by the owners. 49:50 - Malena shares her suggestions for clients at this time for dogs that may have separation relation concerns. 57:00 - Malena’s explains her approach to building a community to help clients with their dog. 59:50 - Ryan touches on one of Malena’s previous hopes and goals stated in 2018 and how she feels they have achieved or moved forward from that time.

* 4:45 - Ryan asks Afiya to expand on her academic journey and how she chose to study a Masters and Phd on the topic of growth mindset * 9:16 - Afiya explains how struggle in her personal studies impacted her mindset. * 9:50 -  The game changer for Afiya…How she became receptive and open to seeing failure as an opportunity to grow and learn. * 12:45 - Afiya explains how gratitude presented an opportunity in Mindsetworks * 17:35 - Afiya discusses how preparation of mindset opens possibilities for opportunities. * 20:30 - Why do we pass up on certain opportunities?  What level of awareness and consciousness is present when opportunities arise. * 22:20 - Ryan asks do people with growth mindset feel uncomfortable at times? And frames his thought process that led to the question * 28:25 - How challenging emotions can impact our decisions for ourselves and others. * 30:32 - Ryan asks what does Afiya’s role at Mindsetworks look like at the moment (prior to and during the pandemic) * 35:15 - How the growth mindset programs can help parents, where they can find information to help support the development of their own children. * 35:45 - Afiya describes that being mindful in the language you use can develop the growth mindset for your early learners (children) * 44:07 - Ryan reads the mission of Mindsetworks * 45:15 - Afiya shares the 5 biggest factors that she feels the company teaches and that all humans can use to operate more effectively. * 56:00 - Ryan draughts an example of a discussion in relation to animal training leading to the next question…how do we get to the place where we are proficient at the tools and when do we know to use them for the learner in front of us? * 58:30 - Afiya highlights the value of the learning zone. * 1:04:15 - Ryan recaps Afiya’s top 5 factors that set you up for success in your growth mindset. * 1:05:00 - Afiya shares with us what she would like the worlds growth mindset to be in the next 5-10 years.

* 4:30 - The Growth Mindset defined, why it is important and how it impacts and influences both behaviours and outcomes in our lives * 8:00 - Ryan and Afiya raise how the context, & individual learning history may support and impact the development of our mindset * 9:10 - Afiya shares ideas on where our mindset comes from * 11:45 - How success impacts our mindset * 15:00 - How praise can influence our mindset * 18:00 - How communicating and rewarding a process rather than the product can impact mindset and lead to growth over time * 20:19 - Ryan asks about ‘Imposter Syndrome’ in relation to the growth mindset * 21:30 - Afiya discusses how our level of self-awareness can be beneficial for developing a growth mindset * 22:15 - Afiya describes some benefits of being open about mistakes and imperfection * 23:48 - Afiya shares a personal example of how your mindset can influence others around you and how struggle and challenge is an important part of the learning process * 25:54 - Neuro-science & the growth mindset. * 28:49 - Afiya talks about engaging in learning zone activities and deliberate practice to improve an aspect or skill * 31:40 - Ryans asks about vulnerability, courage and teaching in different contexts with animals or humans * 39:20 - Afiya discusses ways to help support others in developing a growth mindset. * 41:09 - Growth mindset as a life long process of learning and development * 45:57 - The importance of having awareness & reflecting on our own behaviours