
The Hard Way With Joe De Sena
Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking and answers authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders. It will shift your thinking, make you laugh and and give you the tools you need. He’s on a mission to find the secrets to success in all aspects of life. Not only does Joe interview epic people, he has brought together an amazing panel to break down and analyze every aspect of these interviews. We give you the ultimate blueprint and action steps to assimilating these powerful conversations into your own life.
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Sep 28, 2021 • 27min
Are Your Kids Ready to Face Life? Joe De Sena and His Friend Ilias Diakomihalis
As parents, it's the ultimate question. Today Joe De Sena, founder & CEO of Spartan, talks with his friend Ilias Diakomihalis about building mentally strong kids. Ilias' son is wresteler Yanni Diakomihal a 2021 US World Team member and was the 2020 Pan American champion, 2019 US Open National Champion and a two-time age-group World Champion. https://www.spartan.com/10Rules Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” Spartan.com/toughbible The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye will be back soon, we miss them! © 2021 Spartan

Sep 23, 2021 • 27min
Achieving Your Big Hairy Audacious Goals, Mark Pattison Pt 1 / DEKA
“The original goal was to try to become the first NFL player to ever climb the Seven Summits, and when that got pushed out a year, I said, ‘You know what? I’m going to double down. And I’m going to not only go up and climb Mt. Everest, I’m going to come back down, and then I’m going to go up the other side,’ which is Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world. And, at the end of the day, that didn’t happen because I would have died on Lhotse,” says Mark Pattison, former NFL player who just conquered the Seven Summits. Mark Pattison has played professional football, is an Executive at Sports Illustrated, and the 1st NFL player to climb the Seven Summits. In this episode, you’ll learn: Competitive greatness Having a “big hairy audacious goal” Healing by being connected with nature Adjusting to the elements to reach a goal instead of changing the goal On top of all this, he has a documentary presented by NFL 360 coming out TONIGHT, 9/23, “doors” open at 7:30 PM Central Time, and the film starts at 8:00. Buy tickets to stream Mark’s documentary, “Searching For The Summit,” here: https://www.markpattisonnfl.com/searching-for-the-summit/ * This episode was recorded on Wednesday, September 22 * If you’d like to reach out, you can find mark at - markpattisonnfl.com And if you’d like to contribute to Emilia’s Everest - www.markpattisonnfl.com/emilias-everest/ Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan

Sep 21, 2021 • 44min
Coming Back from Failure / Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan Part 2
When it feels like all hope is lost, how do you come back? Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Have you asked yourself what happened next? How a family recovers? What’s next after jail after losing his career? That’s what Joe De Sena and Gordon Caplan talk about in this second half of their interview. Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep thinking he did in jail. Every parent of a high school-age kid, and grandparents ... and anyone who works with them in school needs to listen closely to the lessons here. In part one of this interview, you'll hear what exactly happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what is wrong with the way 90% of the parents out there are thinking about their kids. Next week we publish part two, that's where you'll hear you can come back from even the most devastating blow. Read more about Gordon Caplan’s story https://www.spartan.com/blogs/unbreakable-kids/gordon-caplan Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” https://www.spartan.com/10Rules The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place Spartan.com/toughbible This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye will be back soon, we miss them! © 2021 Spartan

Sep 19, 2021 • 28min
Uncharted Territory, with Levison Wood and Shannon Galpin / CLASSIC
“There are fishermen…that go out swimming, with nets, they don’t even have a boat. They’ll go out with nets in crocodile infested waters. And they’re like, ‘Well, we don’t have a choice, I can’t afford a boat, I need to eat, my family needs to eat,’” says Levison Wood, explorer who walked almost the entire Nile River in one go. We’re continuing our Classics with some conversations that tell us about the uncharted places in the world that many of us haven’t even considered visiting. These explorers literally risked their lives to do what they’ve accomplished. In this episode you’ll learn… How Levison Wood walked from Rwanda to Egypt along the Nile River, trekking deserts, swamps, and warzones Shannon Galpin’s stories from Afghanistan, the prisons, and how she’s helped Afghan women push for more freedom If you want to watch the full episodes, Episode 044 with Levison Wood: https://youtu.be/bwqM81DfC9g Episode 104 with Shannon Galpin: https://youtu.be/atVL-__R1tE SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena, Dr. Delle, Col. Nye Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan

Sep 16, 2021 • 21min
Why The Fitness Community Needs to Unite, Paul Bedford Pt 2 / DEKA
“You know, if you think, every member that you’ve got in the gym knows three people, they know at least three people, who they’re friends with, that don’t exercise. Be a friend, bring a friend. That would be my message,” says Dr. Paul Bedford. Paul Bedford, the Retention Guru, is a fitness industry authority on retention, attrition and member experience. In this episode, you’ll learn: The fitness industry shouldn’t be waging war against others in the industry, rather, the industry should be waging war against inactivity There needs to be more collaboration in fitness The best technologies to keep you on track with your exercise, according to Dr. Bedford How to motivate others to get active using the power of friendship, existing connections, and instilling value. “Be a friend, bring a friend.” Connect with Paul: Website - retentionguru.com Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan

Sep 14, 2021 • 32min
Every Parent With High School-Aged Kids Needs to Hear This / Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan
Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Maybe you've asked yourself "what were those people thinking?," or maybe you thought "does everybody do that?," or maybe you asked yourself "how far would I go if I thought it would help my kids?" Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep thinking he did in jail. Every parent of a high school-age kid, and grandparents ... and anyone who works with them in school needs to listen closely to the lessons here. In part one of this interview, you'll hear what exactly happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what is wrong with the way 90% of the parents out there are thinking about their kids. Next week we publish part two, that's where you'll hear you can come back from even the most devastating blow. Read more about Gordon Caplan’s story https://www.spartan.com/blogs/unbreakable-kids/gordon-caplan Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” https://www.spartan.com/10Rules The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place Spartan.com/toughbible This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye will be back soon, we miss them! © 2021 Spartan

Sep 11, 2021 • 30min
What Are Your Ultimate Limits? Chris Legh & Tony the Fridge / CLASSIC
“Well you know, this was a man who, at the time, I was contemplating, ‘How do I stop today? I can’t move on, I can’t get to the end. I have a fractured leg, something’s wrong. I’m in so much pain. How can I possibly get to land’s end?’ And then you get this card… what do you do? I did what anybody else would do and I made a promise to that lady that I would get to the other side,” says Tony the Fridge. We’re back with two more awesome throwbacks. We kick it off first with Chris Legh, you may remember him stumbling across the finish line at the 1997 Hawaii Ironman. His story is amazing when you hear the mentality he had during that infamous race. The second half is Dr. Delle’s heartwarming and inspiring conversation with Tony “The Fridge,” someone who literally runs with a fridge on his back to raise money for cancer research. In this episode you’ll learn… How your mind and spirit can push your body past its limits The importance of pushing through for others Live in the moment and stay focused. You can do anything if you put your mind to it. Can you carry a fridge the length of England? YES! If you want to watch the full episodes, Episode 026 with Chris Legh: Why Chris Legh Almost Died at the Hawaii Iron Man Finish Line ep 026 Episode 007 with Tony “The Fridge”: Tony The Fridge Runs Ultras with a Fridge on Has Back - Seriously! ep.007 SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by Nutrafol. You can grow thicker, healthier hair without a prescriptionNutrafol is physician formulated to be ONE HUNDRED PERCENT drug-free. They use natural, medical-grade botanicals in consistently effective dosages so you get the most reliable results. Save fifteen dollars off your first month’s subscription by visiting https://nutrafol.com/ and using the code SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena, Dr. Delle Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan

Sep 9, 2021 • 33min
Recognizing Differences in Exercise to Build People Up, Paul Bedford Pt 1 / DEKA
“I speak to people all the time that go, ‘I can’t do this because… of my age. Because of my gender. Because of my sexual preference. Because I’ve got hair. Because I’ve got no hair. Because of my accent. Because of where I was born. Because of the color of my skin. Because of the school I went to, or didn’t go to.’ People are carrying all of that, all of the time. And the thing I would say to the young me, and I’d also say to other people is, recognize your limiting beliefs, and recognize what you’ve already done to overcome them,” says Dr. Paul Bedford. Paul Bedford, the Retention Guru, is a fitness industry authority on retention, attrition and member experience. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to get to someone’s head in order to get to their body The difference between coaching and training Importance of POSITIVE feedback Recognizing limiting beliefs to overcome them The difference between exercise and training Connect with Paul: Website - retentionguru.com Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by Nutrafol. You can grow thicker, healthier hair without a prescriptionNutrafol is physician formulated to be ONE HUNDRED PERCENT drug-free. They use natural, medical-grade botanicals in consistently effective dosages so you get the most reliable results. Save fifteen dollars off your first month’s subscription by visiting https://nutrafol.com/ and using the code SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan

Sep 7, 2021 • 29min
Should You Be Eating Plant Based? Joe De Sena asks authors of Plant Based Athlete
You don't have to change everything - start with more plants. Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan, talks to the authors of "The Plant Based Athlete," Matt Frazier (founder of the No Meat Athlete community) and Robert Cheeke (vegan bodybuilder) and the how and why of eating more plants. Find out what Joe and these experts have to say about the protein hoax, and an easy first step to getting more plants in your diet. More about Matt Frazier - he’s a vegan ultrarunner, best known as the founder of the No Meat Athlete movement and author of The No Meat Athlete Cookbook. Matt found he could run faster and longer when he began eating a plant-based diet, and qualified for the Boston Marathon and completed his first 100-mile ultramarathon soon after doing so. Matt Frazier: @nomeatathlete_official More about Robert Cheeke -he’is a champion vegan bodybuilder and the founder of Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness. He is the author of Shred It! and Plant-Based Muscle, and is a contributor to No Meat Athlete, Forks Over Knives, Vegan Strong, and other popular websites. He has followed a plant-based diet for more than twenty five years. Robert Cheeke: @robert.cheeke Read The Plant Based Athlete https://book.nomeatathlete.com Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” https://www.spartan.com/10Rules This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by Nutrafol. You can grow thicker, healthier hair without a prescriptionNutrafol is physician formulated to be ONE HUNDRED PERCENT drug-free. They use natural, medical-grade botanicals in consistently effective dosages so you get the most reliable results. Save fifteen dollars off your first month’s subscription by visiting https://nutrafol.com/ and using the code SPARTAN FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc. Host: Joe De Sena Sefra Alexandra, Johnny Waite & Colonel Nye will be back soon, we miss them! © 2021 Spartan

Sep 4, 2021 • 19min
Your Obstacles Aren’t Comparable to the Things These Explorers Went Through / ENDURANCE
“You know, I’m sure you’ve heard that old adage of, I guess it’s credited to Winston Churchill, when he gets up to speak about accomplishment...three lines he says, ‘Never give up. Never give up. Never give up.’ And I think that, without question, is the key,” says Will Roseman, Executive Director of the legendary Explorer’s Club. In this episode, we take a look back at two original Spartan Up! interviews published in 2015. The episode begins with Will Roseman telling Joe De Sena the stories of the legendary members of the Explorer’s Club, and ends with Dr. Delle’s conversation with Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the world’s greatest living explorer. In this episode you’ll learn… The importance of perseverance and assessing risk (Apollo 13) The outside of the box thinking and extraordinary knowledge that explorers have (Fighting a leopard, hunting a man eating tiger, using feces as a chisel) Overcoming fear (Even the world’s greatest explorer is afraid of heights) How Sir Ranulph Fiennes, without doctors, survived a heart attack during a climb on Everest and later cut off his own fingers at his home To surmount obstacles, have a cup of tea and figure out how to go around them. If you want to watch the full episodes, Episode 045 with Will Roseman: https://youtu.be/JAplzvIXqWo Episode 029 with Sir Ranulph Fiennes: https://youtu.be/qtbIy9zHf9Q SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena, Dr. Delle Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2021 Spartan
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