Broken to Beloved Podcast

Many people who have read The Parable of the Sower interpret it as: You have to be the “good soil”, or else.However, in my conversation with Jeff Chu, he reframes what good soil actually means and how it’s made. Pulling from his latest book, Good Soil: The Education of an Accidental Farmhand, Jeff guides us through a beautiful discussion on the theology of compost, returning to cultural roots, embracing diversity, being attentive to beauty, befriending the dark, and more. Perhaps even withered plants, thorns, and rock-laden soil can be used for our flourishing. I hope you’ll listen.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Jeff Chu is an award-winning journalist and editor-at-large at Travel+Leisure. He is the author of Does Jesus Really Love Me? and the co-author, with the late Rachel Held Evans, of the New York Times bestseller Wholehearted Faith. Chu is a former Time staff writer and Fast Company editor whose work has also appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, and Modern Farmer. In his weekly newsletter, “Notes of a Make-Believe Farmer,” Chu writes about spirituality, gardening, food, travel, and culture. He lives with his husband, Tristan, in Grand Rapids, Michigan.Links & Resources 🔗Website | Instagram | SubstackGood Soil by Jeff Chu Amazon | BookshopOthered by Jenai Auman Amazon | BookshopA Women's Lectionary for the Whole Church by Wil Gafney Amazon | Bookshop—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

Are there communities that support survivors of religious trauma without being…religious? Spiritual abuse doesn’t only happen in churches. It can happen anywhere and to anyone, but there’s rarely space for all voices and experiences to be heard.I recently spoke with the four founders of the newly launched Religious Trauma Network. These four are creating a place that proves you can have a community of healing without believing the same thing—and they want to help others find this for themselves.In our conversation, they each share what led them into this career, how they met, and what the Religious Trauma Network is all about. My favorite part, though? They share what healing means and how it doesn’t have to look spiritual for it to be true.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨The Religious Trauma Network’s mission is to offer comprehensive information, resources, and support for individuals recovering from religious trauma while raising awareness and equipping professionals and organizations to create safe, trauma-responsive spaces inside their faith or healing communities.Website | Instagram | FacebookBooks/Films/Resources Mentioned:Religious Trauma Network Blog (open to public submissions)Trauma in the Pews by Janyne McConnaughey  on Amazon | BookshopWhat Lies Inside: Healing in the Face of Trauma film by Luke Renner—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

When your true face has been hidden for so long, what is it like to finally reveal it?In this episode, we dive into connection, community, relationships, and what happens when it all falls apart. How do you save face in the presence of such incredible loss?We explore memory and story work, and how it helps us to unveil present realities by examining our history.Join us for a more introspective trip into Aimee's path as a writer, mother, daughter, wife, and a woman caught in the crosshairs of church leadership.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Aimee is an author, speaker, blogger, podcaster and former coffee shop owner. Aimee is the author of several books, including Saving Face, The Hope in Our Scars, Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood and Sexual Reformation. Her articles have appeared in First Things, Table Talk, Modern Reformation, By Faith, New Horizons, Ordained Servant, Harvest USA, and Credo Magazine and she has been interviewed and quoted in Christianity Today and The Atlantic.Website  |  Instagram  |  SubstackSaving Face by Aimee Byrd  on Amazon | BookshopOthered by Jenai Auman  on Amazon | BookshopThe Critical Journey by Janet Hagberg & Robert Guelich on AmazonTill We Have Faces by CS Lewis  on Amazon | Bookshop—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

CW: marriage and sex (not explicit)If you grew up in the evangelical Christianity of the 80s and 90s like me, we likely hear or read much of the same marriage advice. What if it was bad advice?Most of the popular marriage books are written by those with no relevant education or professional credentials and include no research, data, or peer-reviewed evidence for their claims.Sheila Gregoire and her team are committed to work that is healthy, evidence-based, and biblical, and her latest book, co-written with her husband, Keith, is proof of that. Packed with data, research, graphs, and stories, this book debunks much of what we were taught with clear and correct information.If you're looking for ways to improve your marriage without a side of guilt or shame, this may be the episode for you.Guest Spotlight ✨ Sheila is an author, podcaster, and researcher into evangelicalism and sex. The founder of BareMarriage.com, together with her team she has surveyed over 32,000 people for her books The Great Sex Rescue, She Deserves Better and her latest book, The Marriage You Want. Her goal is to change the evangelical conversation about sex to be healthy, evidence-based, and rooted in Christ. A graduate of Queen's University, she's married to her husband Keith, a pediatrician, who writes and speaks with her.Links & Resources 🔗Website  |  InstagramThe Marriage You Want  on Amazon | Bookshop—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

How can the Church transform from a place of harm to a sanctuary of healing and truth? How do we learn to recognize the wolves among the sheep when it's hard to tell the difference? How can anyone hold on to faith and find hope after witnessing so much trauma?From recognizing a real-life parable of an observing how a body that does not follow its head is very sick, to systems that preserve themselves instead of obeying Christ, Dr. Langberg addresses these questions and much more. We also get into the complexities of forgiveness and repentance, the transformative power of facing our own brokenness, and the courage required to speak truth to power.What can I say? It's Diane Langberg—we should just all take some time to listen and learn from her years of expertise and wisdom. Join me?Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Dr. Diane Langberg is a globally recognized psychologist with 53 years of clinical experience working with trauma patients. She has trained caregivers from six continents in responding to trauma and to the abuse of power. For 29 years she directed her own practice in Jenkintown PA .She is the author of several books, including, When the Church Harms God's People: Becoming Faith Communities that Resist Abuse, Pursue Truth, and Care for the Wounded and Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church. Dr. Langberg is the recipient of the Distinguished Alumna Achievements from Taylor University, the American Association of Christian Counselors Caregiver Award, The Distinguished President’s award, and the Philadelphia Council of Clergy’s Christian Service Award.Links & Resources 🔗Website  |  Instagram  |  YouTube  | X/TwitterWhen the Church Harms God's People  on Amazon | BookshopRedeeming Power  on Amazon | Bookshop—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

How have harmful religious teachings about gender reinforced sexism and silenced women's voices in Christian communities? Dr. Andrew Bauman discusses his extensive research on the impact of sexism and abuse on women in churches, challenging misinterpretations of biblical texts that have been used to justify inequality.Bauman shares insights from his book Safe Church, exploring different forms of sexism, the weaponization of forgiveness, and how churches often fail abuse victims through "cheap grace." Drawing from interviews with over 2,800 women, he reveals how Christian leaders frequently gaslight and silence those who experience harm rather than holding perpetrators accountable.Moving beyond criticism to offer a path forward, we emphasize the importance of ethical leadership, personal healing work, and creating genuinely safe church environments.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Founder & Director of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health & Trauma (CCC), Dr. Andrew J. Bauman is a therapist with a Doctorate from Northeastern University. His dissertation was on studying the impact of sexism and abuse on women in the Protestant Church. Andrew is the author of seven books, including his newest book, SAFE CHURCH: How to Guard Against Sexism & Abuse in Christian Communities.Website  |  Instagram  |  Facebook Safe Church  on Amazon | BookshopLinks & Resources 🔗Christian Counseling CenterEpisode 7: Forced Forgiveness with Scot McKnight—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

What if the church has been telling women the wrong story about their spiritual gifts for centuries? Historian and author Beth Allison Barr and I dive deep into the forgotten narratives of women's ministry, uncovering a rich and powerful history that challenges everything we've been taught.From the abbesses who wielded more authority than most modern pastors to the prophetic voices systematically silenced throughout church history, this episode explores how women have always been central to spreading the gospel. We'll journey through medieval monasteries, examine biblical texts with fresh eyes, and confront the power structures that have limited women's spiritual leadership.Discover how women supervised crucial church councils, how early Christian communities celebrated diverse spiritual gifts, and why the current restrictions on women's ministry say more about maintaining control than following calling.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Beth Allison Barr is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women’s history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children.Website  |  Instagram  |  SubstackBecoming the Pastor's Wife  on Amazon | BookshopLinks & Resources 🔗get your "extraordinary" shirt here 👚Tell Her Story by Nijay Gupta  on Amazon | BookshopThe Hidden History of Women’s Ordination by Gary Macy  on Amazon—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

What if the key to understanding your present lies buried in the stories of your past?In this episode, I talk with Adam Young about his new book Make Sense of Your Story and the transformative power of story work. We explore how desires and disappointments reveal who we are, why self-contempt must be replaced with kindness, and how the path through trauma leads to connection. Adam provides practical guidance on recognizing when someone is safe to share your story with, how to notice what your body is telling you, and why blessing your deepest desires—even when they led to painful outcomes—is essential for healing. This episode offers hope that engaging your story with curiosity and compassion can lead not just to understanding yourself better but to profound transformation and freedom.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨ Adam Young is a therapist who focuses on trauma and abuse, and the host of The Place We Find Ourselves podcast. Adam is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a Master degree in Social Work (Virginia Commonwealth University) and Divinity (Emory University).Adam is the author of Make Sense of Your Story: Why Engaging Your Story with Kindness Changes Everything. He currently serves as a Fellow and Instructor at The Allender Center. Adam lives in Fort Collins, CO, with his wife and two children.Website  |  Instagram  |  The Place We Find Ourselves podcastMake Sense of Your Story  on Amazon | BookshopLinks & Resources 🔗The Allender CenterConfessional Communities (Center for Being Known with Curt Thompson, MD)THROUGH Cohort (Broken to Beloved)—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

What if pushing harder isn't the answer? Author and trauma therapist Aundi Kolber shares how the surprising path to healing often means doing the opposite of what we've been taught.In our conversation, she shares her own journey of complex trauma and her work with clients, she reveals why disconnecting from our bodies might have once saved us, but now could be keeping us stuck.Learn why the smallest acts of compassion toward ourselves might be more powerful than all our striving, and discover what happens when we dare to believe our pain might actually be telling us something important. This conversation offers hope for anyone who's tired of white-knuckling their way through life and yearns to find a gentler way forward.Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Guest Spotlight ✨Aundi is a licensed professional counselor and the best selling author of the critically acclaimed Try Softer™ and Strong like Water.She has received additional training in her specialization of trauma- and body-centered therapies and is passionate about the integration of faith and psychology.As a survivor of trauma, Aundi brings hard-won knowledge about the work of change, the power of redemption, and the beauty of experiencing God with us in our pain.Website  |  InstagramTake What You Need  on Amazon | BookshopStrong Like Water  on Amazon | BookshopTry Softer  on Amazon | BookshopLinks & Resources 🔗Episode 10: A New Look at Fawning and our Survival Strategies with Aundi KolberGet the 2024 Conference & Gathering recordings—————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.

In this episode, we dig into how most men never got a proper "sex talk"— just rules about staying pure and anatomical basics, without any guidance on how to handle feelings, desires, and attraction in a healthy way. Jolman shares how men can learn to appreciate beauty (whether it's a sunset or steak) without spiraling into shame or lust, and explains the important difference between arousal and desire.Jolman pushes back against the fear-based messages many people got from purity culture. Instead of seeing all sexual feelings as dangerous, he suggests we can be "lovers" in a broader sense—people who know how to enjoy life's pleasures, from good food to meaningful relationships. We talk about what this means for single folks, people healing from sexual trauma, and anyone trying to move past shame toward a healthier view of sexuality. It's a refreshingly honest conversation that acknowledges both the physical side of sex (the "mechanics") and the deeper emotional and spiritual aspects (the "poetics").Get the full show notes and links here. 📄Episode Resources and LinksEpisode 18 with Dr. Camden MorganteGet a 2025 All Access PassThe Sex Talk You Never Got by Sam Jolman   Amazon | BookshopBioSam Jolman (MA LPC) is a trauma therapist with over twenty years of experience specializing in men’s issues and sexual trauma recovery. Being a therapist has given him a front row seat to hear hundreds of men and women share their stories. His writing flows out of this unique opportunity to help people know and heal their stories, and find greater sexual wholeness and aliveness. He received his master’s in counseling from Reformed Theological Seminary and was further trained in Narrative Focused Trauma Care through the Allender Center at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. Sam lives in Colorado with his wife and three sons. Together, they enjoy exploring the best camping spots in Colorado in a pop-up camper. Sam goes to therapy, loves fly fishing and can often be found trying to catch his breath on the floor of his local CrossFit gym.Website | —————Subscribe using your favorite podcast app:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube—————Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review. It would mean the world if you would leave us a rating and review on Apple or on Spotify. They’ll help us share these conversations and resources with more people, and let us know how we can better serve you.—————Broken to Beloved is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that works to provide those wounded by spiritual abuse and religious trauma with practical resources moving toward healing and wholeness, and to provide pastors and church leaders with resources to grow in trauma awareness and implement safeguarding practices. Get more information or give a tax-free donation here.—————As an Amazon and Bookshop.org affiliate, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you.