The Second Muse
A great song is most often the result not of instantaneous inspiration, but of a long obedience to the call of the song. This podcast explores artists' and producers' confrontations with the "Second Muse," the muse of effort rather than of inspiration, and takes a good hard look at how they’ve chosen to contend with her.
Latest episodes
Apr 15, 2020 • 47min
S2 E3: J Lind & Lucas Morton
Drew, J, and Lucas discuss the necessity of listening to negative emotions while writing songs, the deceivingly difficult work of self-honesty, and the mutual contingency of beauty and suffering.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Apr 8, 2020 • 47min
S2 E2: Andy Gullahorn
Drew and Andy discuss Andy’s abiding love of math, the silent power of omission, the symbiotic relationship between convention and invention, and several iterations of “The End of a World” that preceded the final record.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Apr 1, 2020 • 51min
S2 E1: Sara Groves & Brown Bannister
Drew, Sara, and Brown talk about the deceivingly difficult task of telling the truth in a record, the under-publicized connection between beauty and justice, and the magic of a well-written bridge.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 17, 2018 • 27min
“Mercy” (Andrew Osenga)
In this episode, Drew Miller interviews Andrew Osenga about his song, “Mercy.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 13, 2018 • 28min
“Drink It Down” (The Orchardist)
In this episode, Drew is joined by his bandmate Janie Townsend and engineer Evan Redwine to discuss the making of The Orchardist’s album People, People—specifically the song “Drink It Down.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nov 30, 2018 • 25min
“Tomorrow Morning” (Wild Harbors)
Drew is joined by Wild Harbors (Chris and Jenna Badeker) and Andrew Osenga to discuss their song, “Tomorrow Morning.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nov 6, 2018 • 23min
“The Fiddler” (Son of Laughter & Ben Shive)
Drew is joined by Chris Slaten (stage name: Son of Laughter) and his producer, Ben Shive, to discuss Slaten’s song, “The Fiddler.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Oct 17, 2018 • 23min
“Explaining Jesus” (Jordy Searcy & Lucas Morton)
Singer-songwriter Jordy Searcy and producer Lucas Morton discuss the evolution of Jordy’s song, “Explaining Jesus.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sep 25, 2018 • 29min
“Maybe Next Year” (Andrew Peterson & Ben Shive)
Songwriter and musician Andrew Peterson discusses the evolution of his song “Maybe Next Year” from the album Resurrection Letters, Vol. 1. The podcast delves into the creative process of songwriting, decision-making in music production, structuring albums around themes of faith, and the collaborative journey of composing music. Listeners will gain insights into the intricacies of creating music that engages and captivates the audience.
