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Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
Interviewing cidermakers, importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!
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Jan 2, 2019 • 55min
161: Best of Show | Cider Judging
Best of Show | Cider Judging at Franklin County CiderDays 2018 is featured in this episode 161. Franklin County CiderDays takes place on the first weekend of November in “Franklin County” Massachusetts. This year 2019 will be the 25th annual CiderDays. Events take place on both sides of the Connecticut River and many are free to attend. Go to https://ciderdays.org/ and start planning to attend the 25th Annual. And make sure you take enough time off before the events begin on Friday, as I ,Ria, will be leading another Totally Cider Tour : New England the day before. About the CiderDays Judging For the past six years the CiderDays Amateur Cider Competition solicts entries during CiderDays and at locations through out New England. The actual judging takes place one month after CiderDays. Thus the 2018 judging took place on December 1st, 2018 at the White Church in Deerfield Massachusetts. Many of the judges have been involved with CiderDays since if first started back in 1993. Judges can also be commercial makers, cider writers and fermenters from as far as Virginia and Pennsylvania. This episode records the Best of Show judging of the final 11 ciders that all placed first in their category. Scroll to minute 13:48 to listen straight away to the Best of Show Recording. Otherwise enjoy the news beforehand and after from out and about Ciderville. Mentions in this Chat Cousin Jay brings us into this week’s chat Mentions in this chat February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Volunteer for CiderCon and have your registration fee waivered! Contact : Woodley email - pickcider@ciderassociation.org February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Dec 26, 2018 • 32min
160: The Way of the Amateur
The Way of the Amateur How do you pronounce Amateur? Did you know there is more than one way to approach this word? Do you use “amateur” as a compliment or an insult? If you are swinging back and forth on your answers to these questions, you are not alone. In this episode we explore the use of the word “amateur”...and I share my two cents on the matter. Mentions in this chat February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Dec 19, 2018 • 53min
59: Ciderville Tales | Monterey Bay, CA
The farmers of Monterey Bay California have been growing apples since the state constitution was first ratified in1849. The primary apple of the region is Newtown Pippin due partly to the demand for this apple by Martinelli’s, a 4th generation family run cider and apple juice producer. If you speak to any orchardist in the area, there is a undeniable agreement that if not for Martinelli’s there would likely be no orchards in the area today. This episode takes the listener along on my travels to the region to meet makers and plan for an up coming Totally Cider Tour” Monterey Bay. If you would like to get on the list for this tour now - do send an email to ria@ciderchat.com. We begin with a song by Robbie Robertson of The Band “Christmas Must Be Tonight”, sung by my cousin Jay. Then we head out on the road to meet with makers for an evening of cider and chat surrounding the upcoming cider tour. Makers at the Cider Dinner hosted by Santa Cruz Cider Company Robby Honda, Tanuki Cider Company - Santa Cruz Erin Serventi, Serventi Ranch Cider - Watsonville Laura Everett, Soquel Cider - Sequel Katie Rider, Rider Ranch Ciderworks, Los Gatos Jake Mann, Five Mile Orchard, Corralitos After the meet up on the next day, I met with John Martinelli of S. Martinelli’s Cider Co. in Watsonville Mentions in this chat CiderCon2019 - February 4-8, 2019 - register to go today Cider Competition February 10th - 2019 New York International Cider Competition The 1st Annual New York International Cider Competition is Cider focused competition that is held in conjunction with the 6th Annual New York International Beer Competition. Top Trade Buyers from the New York Metro Area including Cider Bars, Retail Stores, Distributors and Importers will be judging the cider by its category and actual price. It is open to all commercially made cider from around the world. Your cider does not have to be sold and or imported into New York to be in the competition. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Dec 12, 2018 • 1h 3min
158: CiderCon2019 | M. McGrath - USACM Exec Dir
Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. ---------------------- The United States Association of Cider Makers (USACM) works on cider legislation, education, and cider promotion. In this chat: CiderCon2019 with the Michelle McGrath, Executive Director of USACM Why you should attend CiderCon2019 Why arrive early to CiderCon2019 Key programing presentation and lectures to attend at CiderCon2019 Which international company is the invited guest at CiderCon2019. hint: They are North Americans! Find out about Michelle McGrath featured in Wine Enthusiasts’ Top 40 Under 40 Haven’t registered for CiderCon2019 - go to this link: https://ciderassociation.org/cidercon2019/ Pre CiderCon fun and key speakers & educational workshops of CiderCon2019 Feb 4th Monday Classic arrival day for attendees to be able to attend the next day morning sessions Feb 5th Tuesday Elements of Cider with Charles McGonegal and Ambrosia Borowski, General Manager of The Northman, Chicago's premier cider bar Listen to 084: Elements of Cider | Sensory Analysis w/Charles McGonegal Cider Tour in Chicago focusing learning about cider and food pairings. Right Bee Cider The Northman Cider Pub & Bistro ERIS Brewery and Cider House The Farmhouse Feb 6th Wednesday - Morning seminars TTB presentation - The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB) oversea the regulations and labeling of cider. This presentation will include taxation issues for cider. A key session for commercial makers or start ups. Certified Cider Professional (CCP) Level 2 Training. Servers, distributors and even super cider geeks will up their cider knowledge and be both informed consumers but specifically for those in the trade best educate and serve consumers. **Level 1 must be taken first before attending Level 2. Cider Institute of North America Teaches the craft of cidermaking. The Institue will be leading a workshop at CiderCon2019 Wednesday Afternoon: Pomme Boots Meeting with Krista Scruggs from Vermont by way of California Welcome reception and Cider Share- Imagine a huge room filled with makers pouring cider. A great opportunity for makers to showcase their ciders and network with the folks in the cider trade. This is not open to the public. As of December 12th there is still time to sign up to bring you ciders to the Cider Share. Contact pickcider@ciderassociation.org Lunch Speakers on Feb 7th Thursday and Feb 8th Friday Thursday Lunch Speaker: Mark Sirini Attorney - Speaking on the History of Alcohol and the Law Friday Lunch Speaker: Michelle McGrath, Executive Director : United States Association of Cider Makers Updates Tradeshow - Don't miss the opportunity to visit the Trade Show! Look for the Lounge at the Trade Show and Thursday’s Happy Hour session. Plus a bookstore with author signings Who is going to become the next USACM Board Member? Nominations begin the third week of December. Voting takes place on Friday morning at CiderCon2019. Be there at the 9am session to cast your vote. Are you a Member of the Association? Why not throw you hat into the race and help create cider history and excellence in the market Key Canadian Guests Sea Cider Farm & Ciderhouse - British Columbia, Canada County Cider - Listen to episode 137 Ontario’s County Cider Story | Jennifer Dean Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider will be presenting Using Oak: What do you want to know? Listen to episode 132 Barrels and Bâtonnage with Ryan CiderCon2019 still needs volunteers contact mailto:pickcider@ciderassociation.org Mentions in this Chat 060: Nicole Todd | Santa Cruz Cider Company, CA 103: Robby Honda | Tanuki Cider, CA 110: Eric & Katie | Rider Ranch Ciderworks, CA 113: Jake Mann | Five Mile Orchard, CA

Dec 5, 2018 • 1h 5min
157: County Cork's Killahora Orchards | Ireland
Killahora Orchards of County Cork is located on the southern tip of the Emerald Isle a.k.a. Ireland and was once the center of the world butter market. Historically it is also known as the “rebel city”. Today it is a thriving city with Michelin star restaurants and makers like Barry Walsh and Dave Watson of Killahora Orchards in Glounthaune. Killahora Orchards began to be replanted in 2011. Replanted because Killahora Orchards today, it was found, was also an orchard dating back as far as 1838. This was discovered on Ireland’s OS (Ordinance Survey) Maps. As such there are wilding apple trees on the fence line linked to the Malus sylvestris (this apple tree usually has thorns). Barn on the hill at Killahora Orchards In 2016 Killahora entered the commercial market as Johnny Fall Down cider, but as the brand evolves they are now making Johnny Fall Down a brand of cider under the Killahora Orchards label. There are 130 varieties of apples and 30 different pears. Dave Watson planted the orchard. His father Tim Watson tends it. Barry Walsh is Dave’s cousin. Barry is crowned the Booze Geek, while Dave is considered the Tree Geek. Killahora Orchards Products The Wild Apple Bouché won the Supreme International Championship for International Ciders at the Royal Bath and West cider competition in June 2018. The Rare Apple Ice Wine which was made with Bitter Sweet and Bitter Sharp apples really set this Irish version of an ice cider apart. Rare Apple Ice Wine made with bitter sweet and bitter sharp apples[/caption] Pom'O is and Apple Port or what the French would call Pommeau. At the end of this chat hear Barry Walsh sing a wee bit from the Irish Folk Drinking Song "Johnny Jump Up". Learn more about its history here. Contact Killahora Orchards Website: http://www.killahoraorchards.ie/ Address: Killahora, Glounthaune Cork Telephone: 021 486 8177 eMail: info@johnnyfalldown.ie Mentions in this Chat Patreon supporter Jonathan $1 Eleanor Leger - Eden Cider Listen to Eleanor's chat 111: Cidernomics: Breaking Bad or Breaking Even Adam Levey aka The Alcohol Professor has now launched the www.nyicidercompetition.com which is the natural spinoff off the www.nyibeercompetition.com so cider winners will receive cider medals. Wanna enter two competitions? Commercial makers can send in their samples to the New Jersery receiving station, then the competition will ship their ciders for no extra cost to the Berlin Germany competition too. Go the link above to find more info. Listen to Adams Chat: episode 108 CiderCon2019 February 5-9, 2019 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at ApplePodcasts, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Nov 28, 2018 • 59min
156: Not all lees are gross
Lees: When should we love them and when should we leave them? And what the heck is “lees” anyways? The main chat in this episode begins around 10 minutes in and features Curt Sherrer presenting his workshop titled “All Lees Are Not Gross”. This was recorded at the 24th Annual Franklin County CiderDays in November of 2018. Why rack off the lees? Curt proposes that there are more advantages for aging the cider on the lees then removing the lees. Sur Lie is leaving the lees in the vessel that you are conditioning the cider in is called: What to expect from barrel aging and leaving the cider on the lees is the smell of H2S which smells like rotten eggs. Curt recommends: Using your nose and taste buds to keep track of what is going on when leaving the aging cider on the lees. Taste every part of the fermentation Instead of automatically dumping your lees our of the bottle - save your lees add to your next cider cook with the lees make bread with lees The process for either barrel or carboy: After the rigours fermentation, stir lees for usually the next 6 weeks - sometimes 3 times per week. This technique is called Bâtonnage. Use your nose and taste buds to decider upon the schedule best suited for your cider. Perhaps you will stir more often or not. Lees can rest upon the bottom of your vessel for up to year for further. This presentation will “lees” you with lots of food for thought and decisions to make for you own cider. Not a cider maker? - then seek out maker who do produce cider sur lie and see if you like this more wine like production. I do and as such post this taping I began my own oak barrel sur lie cider. Stay tuned! Mentions in this Chat CiderCon2019 - February 5-8, 2018 Gift giving links mentioned in this chat go to http://ciderchat.com/resources/ Listen to episode 020: Curt Sherrer | Millstone Cellars FEDCO - Tree Catalog Listen to John Bunker episodes: 16: John Bunker | Super Chilly Farm, ME 028: John Bunker | Apple Identification Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! Haven't downloaded this chat yet? Here is is again.

Nov 21, 2018 • 55min
155: Sex(ism) in the Cidery
Sex(ism) in the cidery was a panel discussion moderated by, Franklin County CiderDays committee chair April Woodard on November 3, 2018. The goal was to take the larger context from the MeToo Movement to the cidery community. The aim is to create an egalitarian, inclusive cider community and beyond. These industry leaders shared personal stories and provided actionable steps to thwart sexism. In order of who speaks on the panel Emily Ritchie - Executive Director of the Northwest Cider Association Follow on Twitter @nwcider Pat Knittel Wrangletown Cider, Humbolt, California Follow on Twitter @WrangletownCo Jana Daisy-Ensign cofounder of Pomme Boots Society & National Sales & Apple Ambassador at Finnriver Farm & Cidery Follow on Twitter @janadaisye Ellen Cavalli - Titled Shed Ciderworks, Sonoma Ciderworks Follow on Twitter @EllenCavalli Mentions in this chat MeToo Movement Malus - a zine created by Ellen Cavelli CiderCon 2019 - February 5-7, 2019 Chicago Cider Week - February 1th - 9th, 2018 Chicago Cider Summit Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Nov 14, 2018 • 54min
154: Turning Straw into Gold | Apple Falls Cider Company
Matt Oskamp and Amelia Campbell started Apple Falls Cider Company in 2017. The cider house is situated alongside the farm store at Campbell Orchards located in Prince Edward County, Ontario. Campbell Orchards is owned by Amelia’s parents Colin and Dianne Campbell. When Colin’s father died due to a plane crash, he took on the orchard that was started by his father. That was back in the late seventies when Colin was just in college. Today the orchard and farm stand is a testament of love and perseverance. There is a cider garden outdoors from the tasting room with ample seating at picnic tables. This is a family friendly scene where you can also stop and pick up a pie or meats on your way home from work. Listen to their story and the future of Apple Falls Cider Company. 1937 Orchard tractor - called Cockshutt . Notice the fenders built so that the wheels won't hurt the trees. Contact Apple Falls Cider Company Website: https://www.applefallscider.ca/ Telephone: 613 242-8433 eMail: info@applefallscider.ca Address: 1633 County Rd 3, Carrying Place, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada Mentions in this Chat Alex Kroh's episodes on Cider Chat 090: Eve's Cidery - Orchard Walk | New York 091: Into the Ciderhouse w/Eve's Cidery | New York 096: Finger Lakes Cider House (Kite and String) | New York Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Nov 7, 2018 • 1h 3min
153: Journey to the World's Largest Apple Tree | Kazakhstan
In this episode author of "The New Cider Makers Handbook" Claude Jolicoeur presents an overview of his trip to Kazakhstan in August of 2017. This presentation was recorded at the 24th Annual Franklin County CiderDays on November 3, 2018. Claude had a power point of slides from this trip, but do note that his descriptions fill in the void of not being able to see the photos. We begin in the Tian Shan Mountains of Kazakhstan. Locations: Lee-Alatau National Park Almaty to Sarkand was a 5 hour drive. Claude states that one of the main reason he was there was to see the Largest Apple in the World. This tree’s diameter is over 1 meter (3 feet). This trip was design to both be a study of the areas apples and to create a documentary film Also on this trip was Andrew Lee - author Ryan Burk - head cidermaker at Angry Orchard Peter Mitchel - provides a curriculum on cider making. Take Aways from this presentation There are apple trees everywhere. Looking at Claude’s photos you can see trees in the distance as one would see bush and sage brush in the desert. Every where you saw a tree, it seemed to be an apple tree. The apples though wild, meaning that they are not be cultivated or spray, produced what looked like flawless apples Horses are also found through the area, as horseback riding is quite popular Cannabis Sativa can be found growing everywhere Coming out in 2019 is the documentary film of this trip. Stay tuned. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Oct 31, 2018 • 1h 7min
152: How to teach Cidermaking 101
How to teach Cidermaking 101 is fairly straight forward: Have on hand: Fresh pressed apple juice A carboy or some sanitized vessel to hold the juice, with enough room for it to ferment and not bubble over. An airlock to release CO2 and keep out Oxygen That is the basics, but in truth there is more to consider before you start publicizing your Cidermaking workshop. When Matthew Somerville reached out to me in September 2018 to speak with me on a cidermaking course he was setting up in his area of Ontario (Port Perry), I gladly jumped at the chance to have a chat. This episode features that conversation as we discuss all the particulars of setting up a cidermaking course for non professionals. Matthew Somerville and Andy Paul own Two Blokes Cider in Port Perry and Toronto, Canada. Port Perry is a 1 hour drive from Toronto They are newly licensed in 2019. To prep for that moment they planted 2000 apples trees - cider varieties- in 2015 on a family farm. What follows below is an overview of tips from our conversation. How to teach Cidermaking 101 The goal: Make cidermaking as simple as possible. Basics of what to have on hand Recommend 2 demos - one with dry yeast and the other liquid ( recommend sweet mead and making a cyser, by adding up to 3 pound of honey per 5 gallons - the new makers will be pleased with the results. I have found this to be a fail safe cyser to make during demos) Have 2 glass carboys pre filed with cider (half filled, so it can be easily moved after the workshop to your cellar) Have airlocks pre sanitized and enclosed in a ziplock bag. If adding honey (as I usually did with one batch) have a sanitize funnel to make pouring the yeast. Have cider on hand for folks to taste and to discuss what you did last year to make that cider. Having a taste of cider will definitely elicit questions. Options on set up pick your own apples and press on site do a bulk pressing and prepare the cider before hand by setting up the ph and sulfite before the course begins. - Ria’s favorite way to go - don’t worry about the ph and don’t worry that the cider is cool. It won’t be absolutely perfect but that is the beauty of cider. Use the fresh pressed juice on hand, plop in the yeast and spend a bit of time on primary fermentation and the first initial racking. Yeast: Pick a yeast that leaves a bit of residual sugar. Recommend 2 yeast for a demo Sweet Mead Yeast - buy it in liquid form And 71B Be prepared post the workshop for incoming emails as the new cidermakers go home and begin wondering if what they are doing is right. Final Goal: Have people wanting to keep coming back to cider. Matthew’s inspirational read for cider making Craft Cider: How to Turn Apples into Alcohol. Main tips to glean from this chat Keep it simple Avoid getting too technical Entice the newbies to make it not only once but again and again. Mentions in this Chat Nigel and Natasa O’Connor of Militsa Apple Cider www.militsa-cider.com https://www.facebook.com/MilitsaCider/