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The Cider Insider | 100 Craft Ciders to Drink Now This chat with Susanna and James Forbes was recorded at CiderCon2019, the annual trade conference hosted by the American Cider Association known at that time as the United States Association of Cider Makers. Susanna & James Forbes It was at CiderCon2018 when I first had the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Susanna and James. Listen to that chat on episode 126 Little Pomona’s Big Ciders | Hereford, UK They started selling cider under their brand name Little Pomona in 2015. James has been involved in the wine trade for quite a while and is now the Chairperson of the Three Counties Cider and Perry Association. Susanna has been writing about craft libations since 2000. She writes for Imbibe magazine and sill uses the Twitter handle @drinkbritain. Her recent book The Cider Insider is what prompted this sit down chat and the fact that I adore the Forbes and always love hearing about and tasting their newest cider. Little Pomona Cider Tasted during this chat Hazy Ways Part 1 7.4% alcohol by volume Apples used: 91% Dabinet and some Elias Bitter 750 ML cider – bottle conditioned Like all the ciders that I have had with the Forbes, James did a “Shake to Wake” of this bottle, which allows the sediment on the bottom of the bottle to come into solution before pouring, much like one would do with a Hefeweizen beer. You can also pour the cider without Shaking to Wake. But why, when tipping the bottle carefully back and forth is so much fun?!? What’s up at Little Pomona? They are expanding the cidery and building a Tasting Room next to the orchard! Contact info for Little Pomona Website: http://www.littlepomona.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat International Cider and Perry Competition – Herefordshire, UK Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Follow @ahston1848 on Twitter a UK cider enthusiast – and his website https://www.ciderbuzz.co.uk/

180: Cider Is Wine | Simon Day of Once Upon a Tree, UK This chat was recorded at CiderCon2019 in Chicago. Simon Day and I did not speak directly on the topic of the “Cider is Wine” debate, but I do suspect that his early upbringing which was intrenched in the wine culture certainly informs him today. When Simon was 2 his father got a job working at a vineyard, and that vineyard also had apple and pears growing there too. On May 20th - 22nd of 2019 he is attending the London Wine Fair with the “Cider is Wine Alliance”, a newly formed non profit group based in the UK whose mission is to create a new quality drinks category for ciders & perries produced from 100% apples and pears. Simon Day, opening a bottle of "Chapel Pleck" a champagne method Perry Simon’s own background before starting Once Upon a Tree led him to work globally in the business of wine both in the UK to the Pacific Northwest, Australia and on the Channel island of Jersey, which is right off the coast of Normandy. Jersey by the way has a rich cider making history too. When Simon eventually returned to England, he settle close by the original vineyard. The house was surrounded by orchards. Like most major life changes there is a pivotal moment in time that can change your life’s trajectory and for Simon it was attending The Big Apple Association tasting in the same town where he lived. In 2007 he started pressing and using the same press, a Voran mill and press, that he had been using in Guernsey. That year he made 3 different ciders and entered them into the International Perry and Cider Competition in 2008. They won first place for all 3 categories Today, Once Upon a Tree is both making Cider, Perry, Ice Pear Wine and providing other cider makers both juice and cider. Shacksbury based in Vermont was the first to use cider from Once Upon a Tree. Shacksbury uses 25% of their UK juice to blend into Shacksbury’s Dry Cider. In this chat Simon served a 2014 Marcle Ridge cider and a champagne method perry called Chapel Pleck, both outstanding ciders. Contact info for Once Upon a Tree Website: https://shop.haygrove-evolution.com/ eMail: mailto:info@onceuponatree.co.uk Address: Haygrove Evolution Little Marcle Road, Ledbury, Herefordshire, HR82JL Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Tasty Southern Ciders at James Creek A cider dinner recording from CiderCon2019 in Chicago with Ann Marie and David Thornton of James Creek Cider House in Cameron, North Carolina. The main featured chat begins at 17 minutes into this chat. Before this main feature hear an email from a Russian cidermaker, helping us learn a bit more about the cider culture in this region of the world. Maxim contacted me when he became a patron of Cider Chat via the Cider Chat Patreon page. The Journey to James Creek Cider House Ann Marie and David Thornton moved to North Carolina in 2002. What got the Thorntons into cider? Ann Marie says, “It was the apples. And reading about Lee Calhoun” Then it turned out the Lee lived about 30 minutes from the Thorntons! They began planting apples trees in 2009, putting in 60 classic southern apple varieties. At CiderCon2019 David was elected onto the board for the United States Association of Cider Makers (USACM), now known as the American Cider Association. Anne Marie & David Thornton The Thorntons have an experimental orchard is based at their home site, and as of this recording they were in the midst of building a Tasting Room at an off site orchard in the area – which is now completed! In the meanwhile, if you are in or headed to North Carolina go to this link to find out where you purchase some James Creek Ciders. Two Cider labels at James Creek James Creek Heritage Ciders, bottled in 750ML glass presentations! Stargazer series Provides a compliment of modern style ciders. Read: fruit ciders and not just any fruit ciders but peaches and berries from their farm! We sipped on the Prowling Peach, a barrel aged cider with peach juice. I was over the moon for this cider. Plus, peach is not an easy fruit to work with! All of James Creek Ciders were super tasty and you definitely can tell made with a ton of affection for the process. All the apples come from within an area of 100-150 miles and are North Carolina grown. Newly elected Board members at CiderCon2019. (ltor) Michelle McGrath, ACA, Eleanor Leger - Eden Cider, Ben Calvi - Vt Cider Co, David Thornton-James Creek Cider House Contact for James Creek Cider House Website: http://www.jamescreekciderhouse.com eMail: info@jamescreekciderhouse.com Address: 172 US-1 Highway Cameron, NC 28326 Telephone: (910) 245-9901 FaceBook page: https://www.facebook.com/jamescreekciderhouse/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours Andrew Lea’s cider making book

178: WWII and Cider | Paying Tribute on Tour Midweek on the Totally Cider Tour to Normandy our first stop of the day was to tour the Brittany American Cemetery also referred to as the Saint James Cemetery. It is located approximately an hour from Mont-Saint-Michel, 3.5 hours from Paris. It lies not in Brittany, but just north of the region in Normandy. Photo: Sergeant C. Orton of The Highland Light Infantry of Canada drinking cider, France, 20 June 1944. The cemetery is managed by: American Battle Monuments Commission - honors the services of overseas U.S. Armed Forces by maintaining and promoting America's overseas commemorative cemeteries and memorials. This commission was created in 1923 to commemorate US war dead. The Cemetery overview 4,408 gravesite at  this cemetery all men are bored at this cemetery only family members were buried together only cemetery constructed in a predetermined shape taken from the shoulder patch. The tour at this cemetery was conducted by the superintendent of the cemetery Dave Bedford who said “Cemeteries are more than grass, hedges and tress. They are about guys buried here.” The majority of people who visit the cemetery are French. The cemetery land is owned by France, who has granted the US use of the land. On the front of each headstone the following is listed for each solider. Name Rank Unit State where the solider entered military On the back of the headstone is the solider’s serial number Also discussed in this chat Segregation of both Jewish and African American soldiers Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22nd - 28th, 2019 We like Cider video on YouTube Episode 98: Jérôme Dupont  

177: Giard | 13 Generations of Cider, FR Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil with Patrice Giard In this episode: Patrice Giard recorded during the Totally Cider Tour to Normandy France in September 2018. Patrice is a 13th generation cidermaker at this family farm. Patrice, his wife and his daughter are running the farm. His daughter’s focus is on milk production with Patrice focusing on the cider production. The trees in the orchard that we were walking in were planted in 1996. Variety of Apples tasted during this recording Domaine du Calvados  also known as De Clou Bisque Frequin Rouge Orchard at Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil 30 hectares of orchards Standard size trees The orchard management is to prunes the apples trees every three years. The orchards itself has 50 different varieties As required by the appellation of Pays d’Auge Patrice needs to have a map of the apple varieties in the orchard Patrice does not use any pesticides on his orchards. Orchard management tip: When Patrice notices insects on the trees, he lets the cows in the orchard to graze and they will scratch their bodies on the trees and in turn knock off the insects. While standing in the oak barrel room I asked ‘What is the minimum time that the barrels stay empty” The reply is that “There is no reason to keep the barrels empty” :) Contact for Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil Address:D101 -D85A, 14340 MONTREUIL-EN-AUGE Telephone: 06 88 50 95 27 Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy, France - September 22nd-28th, 219 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!     

176: We Like Cider In this episode we begin with: News out and about in Ciderville - Thank you Nathan for becoming a patron of Cider Chat. Nathan is part of Harcourt Apples based in Australia approximately 11/2 hours outside of Melbourne. Audio Snap Shots from the Totally Cider Tour Monterey Bay | California, that took place April 12th and 13th. We begin with John Martinelli of S. Martinelli Co. Totally Cider Tour group portrait outside S. Martinelli's Co. John Martinelli's inside the Watsonville plant Then : Robby Honda of Tanuki Cider Nicole Todd of Santa Cruz Cider Co Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard Eric Rider and Katie Rider of Rider Ranch Cider Pete Serventi of Serventi Cider Laura Everett of Soquel Cider   Extended versions of a few of these audio snap shots will be posted on the Cider Chat Patreon page. Become a patron and help keep ciderGoingUP and get these exclusive audios conversations from the Totally Cider Tour to Monterey Bay, California. Cider Flight w: Tanuki & Santa Cruz Cider Co. Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard Eric and Katie Rider of Rider Ranch Cider ] Serventi Cider Tour and Tasting Laura Everett - Soquel Cider Debuting “We Like Cider” a new cider anthem to sing a long with on this episode. We Like Cider Lyrics: There is a reason why we do it like this There is a reason why we do it like this There is a reason why we drink it like this There is a reason why we drink it like this We like Cider We like Pommes We like Orchards And having fun We like walking in the orchard Dancing through the streets Smelling all the blossoms Kicking up our feet Next Totally Cider Tour: Normandy France September 22-28, 2019  

Part 2 of a two part series with a Question and Answer (Q & A) on Beginner Cider Making with 5 panelists in the cider industry Marcus Robert - Tieton Cider Works, Washington Tim Godfrey - Golden State Cider, California Eleanor Leger - Eden Specialty Cider, Vermont Brent Myles - Slye Clyde Cider, Virginai Ben Calvi - Vermont Cider Co, Vermont Listen to Part 1 of this Q & A recorded at CiderCon2019 in episode 174 (ltor), Marcus Robert, Tim Godfrey, Eleanor Leger, Brent Myles, Ben Calvi. Topics covered in Part 2: Plastic vs Stainless for fermenting or storing cider Can you make money being a commercial maker? What is the best cider style to offer - 3 to 4 core ciders or 8? Where to locate a cidery Take out a loan or go full into cidermaking? - use Kickstarter What is the most crucial piece of lab equipment to have starting out. Hydrometer and Thermometer Sending samples to a lab PH meter Titration kit Filtration Fermentation temperatures Michelle Pagano - at the microphone Mentions in this Chat 168: Barrel Aging Cider Inspiration 170 Is the Cider in your cup Dry or Sweet? 171: Americans in Paris | Cider Tourist Speak 172: Cider Tasting with Eric Bordelet 173: Aomori to Nagano | InCiderJapan - with Lee Reeve - find the link to subscribe to InCiderJapan Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

A Question and Answer (Q & A) on Beginner Cider Making with 5 panelists in the cider industry Marcus Robert - Tieton Cider Works, Washington Tim Godfrey - Golden State Cider, California Eleanor Leger - Eden Specialty Cider, Vermont Brent Myles - Slye Clyde Cider, New York Ben Calvi - Vermont Cider Co, Vermont (ltor), Marcus Robert, Trey Godfrey, Eleanor Leger, Brent Myles, Ben Calvi.[/caption] Pre-recorded at CiderCon2019 in Chicago This is Part 1 or a 2 Part series on Beginner Cider Making questions answered by cider industry pros. Q & A topics: What is cider? “Fermented fruit juice of apples” says Eleanor Leger Wish I knew then what I know now... Marketing “You are going to learn to make cider, but to be able to sell it…” Marcus Robert Breweries getting into cider Managing residual sugar in the bottle for packaging. - a huge range of answers on this topic Can you use sulfites? The challenge for small cidermakers The down fall of Potassium Sorbate in the natural market Contract Fermenting to test product Ice Cider - “if I use a freezer am I cheating?” Stabilizing an ice cider Yeast strain for ice ciders Cryo concentration Is using a freezer considered cheating  In the US you can not label it as Ice Cider - it can be called "Iced Cider". Mentions in this Chat http://ciderchat.com/121-marcus-robert-tieton-ciderworks-wa/ http://ciderchat.com/cidernomics/ http://ciderchat.com/totallycidernormandy/ Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

173: Aomori to Nagano | inCiderJapan Lee Reeve is the Publisher and Editor of the quarterly magazine inCiderJapan, the country’s first and only bilingual magazine dedicated to all things cider. Lee and I recorded a chat while attending CiderCon2019 in Chicago. Lee Reeve w:Tekikaka Cidre He came ready to pour a selection of Japanese ciders from makers in two primary regions in the country or what are caller Prefectures - Aomori and Nagano. We discuss: Lee’s goals for inCiderJapan Develop the Japanese Market Connect with the Japanese makers Communicate to the outside world what is happening in Japan How to recover the loss of revenue in apple production Getting people to come back to the rural apple growing regions of Aomori and Nagano The growing Japanese cider market Japan's Bullet Trains and how it gets from one region to another No public drinking laws in Japan - you can walk about with open containers. The drinking age in Japan is 20 years old The aging maker community in Japan Encouraging makers to offer smaller bottles for consumers - moving from a 750ml bottle to a 375 format Average price for a 750 ml of cider $20. Offering a smaller bottle size entices consumers to reach for a bottle on the shelf due to the price point and the cider or cider brand, being for now an unknown product And taste a cider from Tekikaka What is new for Lee beside all of the above? He is in partnership with Jeremy Stunt of Authentic Cider and they are looking to bring cider to Japan from Tom Oliver, Pilton, Little Pomona, Hallets, and more…Stay Tuned! Contact info for Lee Reeve Go to inCiderJapan Here you can find out the latest news on cider in Japan Sign up for the quarterly paper inCiderJapan Buy a t-shirt and showcase your international know how - the t-shirts rock!!! Upcoming Cider Events in Japan May 25th - The Nagano Cider Collection with a surprise super secret cider maker from Australia July 21st  - The Tokyo Cider Collection Mentions in this Chat April 3rd Ethic Cider Event in Petaluma California May 5th-6th - Big Apple Blossom Festival - UK Totally Cider Tours rolling out in 2019: Monterey Bay, California April 12th & 13th, 2019 Normandy, France September 22nd - 28th, 2019, Early Bird end March 31, 2019 New England Cider Tour - October 31, 2019 - stay tuned for tour info in May 172: Tour and Tasting with Eric Bordelet 20+ minute Bonus audio clip with Eric Bordelet on cider making from press to bottle. Become a Patron today via Cider Chat's Patreon page 168: Barrel Aging Cider Inspiration | Ryan Monkman 40+ minute Q&A with Ryan Bonus audio clip - this is a Patron only listen. Become a Patron today via Cider Chat's Patreon page  

172: Cider Tasting with Eric Bordelet Audio snapshots of a tasting and tour w/Eric Bordelet and the tour group visiting Normandy France in September 2018. The first Totally Cider Tour to roll out took a group of super awesome people to makers both on the Route du Cidre in Pays d’Auge and to the south region of Normandy called Domfrontais. This chat features an afternoon visit to Eric's cidery. Group photo on the roof of the Castle at Eric Bordelet's Domaine We begin with: A meet and greet. Eric asked to hear each person on the tour's job or what they do at home. Very kind and personable. We walked over to the Castle that Eric is having rebuilt - it burned down many years ago and is an huge rebuilding of epic proportions. We spoke a bit about terroir and Eric encouraged us look to the trees that are already growing in our area. Listen to Jérôme Dupont’s chat as he like Eric also encourages makers to look to their local varieties too - words well spoken. We move onto the cidery - not inside the cidery. He strategically does not bring large groups in - one because he doesn’t like to reveal all his trade secrets - and too to keep the area clean. However, he was quite transparent in discussing the first stages of working with the juice and filtration. I cut this audio section out and will be posting it to the Cider Chat Patreon page. Become a patron of Cider Chat and get this clip and other bonus audio and more, by supporting Cider Chat today We finish this chat in the Tasting Room We go through a number of cidres and poirés - Plus a new product called Cormé (Sorbus Domesticus). 1 of only 1000 bottles made in 2017 Want to visit Eric and other fantastic makers in Normandy? We are going on this trip again and will have a visit to Eric’s domaine and later that same day a cider dinner with Eric too. Cider Tour dates: September 22-28, 2019 Go to http://ciderchat.com/totallycidernormandy/ Mentions in this Chat Cider Competition - BigE - entry deadline May 5th August 30th - September 1st, 2019 3 day cider fest with camping in the orchard https://rosscider.com/ciderfest/ 171: Americans in Paris | Cider Tourist Speak 012: Randall Grahm | Bonny Doon Vineyard, CA April 12th and 13th - Monterey Bay Cider Tour Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube