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The Boomers of America's Cider Trade Hudson Valley Farmhouse Cider founder Elizabeth Ryan tells the back story of key legislation that reduce taxes for US cidermakers in the 1990's. Though she may consider herself to be mentored by others, Elizabeth and her fellow cohorts of the day were giants before their time. [caption id="attachment_6714" align="aligncenter" width="200"] Elizabeth Ryan[/caption] Hear the story of what it looked like in the wee hours of day  at the House Way's and Mean Committee when the legislation passed. How then Democratic Representative Charles B. Rangel made a move to get the Republicans on board. Yes, political theater at its best. Key players in this Boomer Circle mentioned in this chat Judith and Terry Maloney - West County Cider | MA Steve Wood - Farnum Hill | NH Jerry House - Ace Cider | CA BF Clyde Cider Mill | CT Joseph Cerniglia - Wood Chuck | VT North America Cidermaking Association Bulmer's Cider | UK Mentions in this Chat CiderCon2021 February 1-4, 2022 - A virtual trade conference for the cider industry hosted by the American Cider Association New York International Cider Competition - February 21, 2022 4rd Annual New York International Cider Competition for commercial makers. Judges are real buyers making this competition stand apart from all others in cider. Send in your ciders now. 108 The Alcohol Professor chats Cider Competitions & Judging 162: S. Martinelli & Co. | 150 Years of Cider Episode 169: History of Alcohol Law | Marc Sorini 287: Elizabeth Ryan Hudson Valley Farmhouse Cider, NY Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Gallettes at Scott Farm with Eden Specialty Cider Gallette dinners have been showcased at Scott Farm in Dummerston Vermont on Wednesday throughout 2021. Gallettes are a French cuisine where a batter is swirled around a flat cylindrical plate to form a round, flat, flexible bread. A gallette can be savory and stuffed with main course items such as cheese, mushroom and meat or savory. A savory gallette is filled with sweets like chocolate and or fruits. Making gallettes in quantity for the dinner ahead Gallettes can be found throughout France in cities like Paris and throughout the cider regions of Normandy and Brittany. Scott Farm General Manager Simon Renault hails from Brittany and introduce Gallettes to the farm. Simon also began making cider, keeved cider which is a typical cidermaking technique used in both France and the UK. In 2021, he produced the first ever keeved cider at Scott Farm and plans to ramp up production in 2022 with a bit of help from Eden Cider. Simon Renault Listen to episode 26 with Neil Worley who goes into detail on how to keeve a cider Eleanor Leger of Eden Cider was on hand pouring a flight of special reserve ciders that were both sparkling and her famous Ice Ciders. Eleanor Leger Ciders at the Gallette Dinner Simon’s Keeved Cider from Scott Farm Eden Ciders: Semi Dry Champagne method 2014 harvest Stormy Sparkling Cider Northern Spy Ice Cider - Barrel aged 2012 Heirloom Blend Ice Cider Contact Info for Scott Farm and Eden Specialty Cider Scott Farm | website: https://www.scottfarmvermont.com/ Eden Specialty Cider | website https://www.edenciders.com/ Mentions in this Chat  CiderCon2022 - sign up today for the Richmond, Virginia cider conference Audio clips from Season 5 of Cider Chat 242: Selecting Cider  Episode 236 - 241 are Part 1-6 of the Cidermaking Series 248: New England Quince Taste Test 2020 249: Old School Cidermaking for Modern Times Oliver's Cider and Perry | Hereford UK Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Are Apples Odd? They sure are for those who solely define apples not by their names (which are often rather exotic like Mountain Rose or Kingston Black) but rather call them  by their color, red, green or yellow. In this episode hear Sean Turley and William Mullan present Apples 101, an overview on apples, and their origin at an open air event at Scotts Farm in Vermont on October 10, 2021. Turley hails from Maine. He is an attorney who is also a passionate apple forager or more specifically a "Feral Apple Forager". Sean Turley Mullan is an artist from Brooklyn, New York. His book Odd Apples, is a coffee table collectable picture book of gorgeous apples.   William Mullan Topics covered in this Righteous and Odd Apple presentation Myths of temperance Stark Brothers nursery and the apple - Red Delicious How grocery stores change the way apples are eaten vs Farmers Markets Tasting apples Get William Mullan's book Odd Apples. Click on the link below - Affiliate links at ciderchat.com may provide a kick back to this podcast, which is a great way to support Cider Chat Contact for Sean Turley and William Mullan Sean Turley @therighteousrusset on Instagram William Mullan @pomme_queen on Instagram Mentions in this Chat Scotts Farm, Vermont Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year 2021 features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box Listen to past episodes with makers in the Big Sky Cider Box 293: Montana Cider Lockhorn Cider 295: Western Cider 296: Bauman's Cider CiderCon2022 - sign up today for the Richmond, Virginia cider conference Audio clips from Season 4 of Cider Chat 157 County Cork's Killahora Orchard | Ireland 187 We Want More Cider Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Who is Bauman Cider Christine Walter is the cidermaker and visionary of Bauman's Cider.  She grew up on an apple farm in Oregon runned by her family. As she tells it, Angry Orchard's "Crisp" was the first cider she ever tasted and it was a wake up moment that helped her realize that her family could ferment and sell cider too. Christine Walter   Bauman's is a destination farm these days with a farm stand and events taking place year round. It has a deli, coffee shop, bakery, garden center, country store and now a cidery. In 2015 she took the well know cider course by Peter Mitchell. The family was already pressing 50,000 gallons of fresh pressed apple juice. The first year the cidery used 3000 gallons, the next year 10,000 gallons, in year 3 the cidery used 50,000 which required her to source apples from off the farm. In short she went from the classic Peter Mitchell model of a basic 10x10 foot cidery to a 3000 square foot operation. Despite the added space, she sees the need for more. Christine's rough estimate of current juice used in production is round about 100,000 gallons - twice the amount pressed at one time for just the fresh juice market. Here is the full story as told by Christine in this episode from her Great, Great Grandmother's homestead. Her Great Grandfather Stephen lived his whole life on the farm and also made cider back in the day. Stephen is actually the man standing on all of Bauman's flagship cider labels. Bauman's Cidery Goal & Products The goal is to remain a local product and not look to produce or the wider market outside of Gervais, Oregon. Flagship Cider Loganberry - hear Christine explain how to process Loganberries for cider, a bit of history of loganberries at Bauman Farm. All our Berries  - blend of all the delicious berries that Bauman's can supply! Traditional Ciders at Bauman's Small batch (100-300 gallon) single varietal ciders Contact Bauman's Cider Website: https://baumanscider.com/#about Address: Bauman’s Cider at Bauman Farms 12989 Howell Prairie Rd NE, Gervais, Oregon 97026 Mentions in this Chat Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year 2021 features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box The Place - a cider bar in Portland, Oregon Audio clips from Season 3 of Cider Chat Episodes 105: Tom Oliver on Making Perry | UK 109: Ice Cidermaking Tips w/ Chadd Cook Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Who is Western Cider Texans Michael Billingsley and Matthew LaRubbio are childhood friends who now both live in Montana and founded Western Cider in 2010. The cidery is based in Missoula and has an indoor and outdoor tasting room alongside the Clark Fork River.  Michael credits his love for Montana to the television series Lonesome Dove which he describes as an "epic journey of two Texas Rangers who head up to Montana to start a cattle ranch". He fell for Montana via that tv series, moved up and hasn’t left. In 2012 he planted an orchard which now has over 50 varieties of apples. Michael Billingsley “I plant new ones that I don’t have every year because, I have a… bit of a sick obsession. And I just want to find out if there might be some great cultivar out there that I don’t have and maybe I should." Michael Billingsley Cidermaker Kira Bassingthwaighte was born and raised in northern Montana by Glacier National Park. She admits to not fully appreciating the breath taking views that surrounded her as a child. In short order she moved to New York to study at the Culinary Institute of America (CIA). Being in New York and specifically the Hudson River Valley met she was able to dive into her love of wine, but cider was also growing in this region too. She knew she wanted to be in the beverage world and also back in Montana. She worked for a spell at a distillery before going full in as a cidermaker and taking the lead role at Western Cider. Kira Bassingthwaighte Topics in this chat Life in Montana - misconceptions and new beginnings Orcharding in Montana Modern and Traditional cidermaking at Western The local thirst for cider and the changing culture of cider in the Big Sky area Hunting & cooking alligator and pairing it with cider Contact for Western Cider Website: https://westerncider.com/ Address:  501 N. California Missoula, MT Phone:tele: 4065404477 Mentions in this Chat Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year 2021 features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box Audio clips from Season 2 of Cider Chat Eric Bordelet episodes on Cider Chat 57, 58 , & 172  Get the bonus audio with Eric on juice to bottle by becoming a Patron of Cider Chat today. Link below. 089: Reusing an Oak Barrel for Cider  Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube    

Who is Lockhorn Hard Cider Alaskan natives Anna and Glenn Deal opened Lockhorn Cider in 2010 in Bozeman, Montana. Anna is a botanist and Glenn came to Montana to study and is a nurse. Lockhorn makes modern ciders with apples from Washington State and choice Montana apples like the McIntosh, but the goal is to upscale the ciders as people's palate continues to be drawn to dryer ciders. Anna & Glenn Deal The Tasting Room tips A dedicated gluten free kitchen Cheese and salami boards They make their own hummus and pickles Topics in this chat. Who are the cider drinkers in Bozeman, Montana? farm to table options Locally crafted beverages like cider and craft beer. What to expect at Lockhorn's Tasting Room A perennialwild flower garden and apple trees Production room visible from Tasting Room area Each tank is 18' tall and is 5x5 feet so it provides a bit of fermentation grandeur. The packaging/canner line is upstairs, which is quite unusual, but again is a testimony of how Glenn and Anna were able to work with the space to suit their needs. It works! The cidery has a green roof - meaning it is a living environment for plants. The roof itself is what is called a "barrel roof" The Story behind Lockhorn Cidery Branding Lockhorn's Orchard and Ciders The orchard is based in the grow Zone 3 and is a mile high in elevation. Planted in 8-10 feet of topsoil, the apple trees are trellised on dwarf root stock In addition they have 250 full sized trees The current cider of Lockhorn is made with juice from Washington State. They also utilize Montana's coveted McIntosh apples They also use local cherries called Flathead Cherries - expect a super sweet cherry that is considered a fresh eating cherry. Bit tart and moderately complex with a bit of tannin in the skin. Lockhorn's Flagship Cider? They make weekly small batch cider releases. The customer's favorite (at this point) is a Grapefruit Mint cider that appears to have capture everyone's palate because it is so refreshing on the hot summer Montana days. And a bit of a cocktail called a Cider Mint Mojito where they continue to use mint The 2nd Flagship cider is the Bone Dry, which bodes well for cidermakers everywhere! Contact Lockhorn Hard Cider Website: https://www.lockhornhardcider.com/ Address 21 South Wallace Avenue Bozeman, MT 59715 406-580-9098 Mentions in this Chat Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box Buy Sorbus Domestica seeds https://www.burntridgenursery.com/SERVICE-TREE-Sorbus-domestica/productinfo/NSMASER/ Interested in learning more about Sorbus Domestica? Follow Ben Kuneš on Instragram @strom_oskoruse Arnould Nazarian The French Pope of Sorbs on Instagram @arnouldnz Episode 30: Nat West | Reverend Nat's Hard Cider, Oregon Episode 34: Adam Krakowski : Author of Vermont Prohibition Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube  

Who is Montana CiderWorks Lee McAlpine is the Founder and Owner of Montana Ciderworks based in Darby, Montana. In 2022, Lee will celebrate the 20th year of operations and has a special Pommeau release made with her cider and distilled locally. It has been aging for 3 years and will only be available at the cidery. In 2002, she planted over 700 cider varieties that focused on 7 English Cider varieties that Lee felt would blend well with the covet Montana grown Macintosh apples. Lee was a firefighter who had a passion for sustainable agriculture and for Montana. Lee McAlpine The Cidery set up Lee has a 20 x 20 foot production room and primarily ferments in Flex tanks and has a small batch program. The Cidery has no Tasting Room, but you can show up and buy cider on site. Lee's cider are fermented for a year before bottling! Topics in this Cider Chat Why the McIntosh is so coveted in Montana The region going back to 1880 specifically growing the McIntosh was a vibrant orchard region at one time. Lee notes that it is the temperatures between day and night in this region that really helps elevate the Macs and thus they she finds notes of cinnamon to this apple variety and the cider. There are 33 different spourts of McIntosh. Local food to pair Montana CiderWorks cider - Lee recommends the Cheddar cheese made by Lifeline Farm a Biodynamic farm. Why Lee chose not to have a Tasting Room Mentions in this Chat Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box Read Richie's Thesis on this topic: https://arrow.tudublin.ie/tfschcafdis/10/ BudWood.org  BudWood is a not-for-profit Montana CoOp whose members are apple growers, apple product manufacturers, and those aspiring to grow or manufacture. McIntosh Apple Days is held the first weekend of October and has been held for over 42 years! Ep 220: Can Sorbus Domestica Save the World  Ep 286: A Living Language for Cider - Richie Brady's Thesis on the topic go to this link Montana CiderWorks is For Sale!  Contact Lee directly for more info Ciders Made at Montana CiderWorks Small Batch - single varietal ciders - look for via vinoshipper North Fork - Semi-Dry English Style Cider Darby Pub Cider - Semi-Dry New World Style Cider McIntosh - Medium Sweet Single Variety Cider Hopped Up - Limited Release Cider Contact info for Montana CiderWorks Website: http://montanacider.com/ eMail: Lee@montanacider.com Address: 261 Rye Creek Road, Darby MT 59829 Phone: (406) 360-5078 Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Who is Westwind Orchard and their cider Fabio Chizzola & Laura Ferrara are the owners/farmers of Westwind Orchard located in Accord, New York on the west dies of the Hudson River. The orchard was bought in 2002 and was as Fabio described it "abandoned". Over time her pruned and replanted and open the area for Pick Your Own in 2008.  In addition to offering the apples, pizza was being made and sold. In time Fabio noticed that many of teh patrons were bringing their own wine, beer and perhaps cider to drink with the food. That was an a-ha moment, when he realized that they could do more than just offer apples to take home but instead ferment the select crop into cider! Both Laura and Fabio are of Italian descendent with Fabio growing up in Rome, which leads to an obvious statement that rings true. "I’m Italian I know food.…I know how food should taste.” Today the orchard has 70-80 varieties of apples and  the Pick Your Own option is no longer available with all the apples going into the production of Westwind Orchard's Cider. Say Fabio, "We are using every single spot in the orchard for apples trees." Fabio Chizzola What to expect at Westwind Orchard Cider is poured by the glass and bottles are available for purchase. There is a restaurant with pasta offerings and wood fired pizza The main seating is all outdoors on picnic benches and even open in the winter (there is some heating but dress warmly). The Ciders of Westwind All ciders are fermented to a dry profile There are single varietal ciders available and also blends Barrel aged ciders Occasional ciders made with unsprayed apples and wild yeast Cultured yeast are used because Fabio doesn’t use sulfites Contact for Westwind Orchard Website: https://www.westwindorchard.com/ Address: 215 LOWER WHITFIELD ROAD ACCORD, NY 12404 Mentions in this Chat Mentions in this Chat Northwest Cider Club - The final special cider box for the end of the year features Montana, Idaho ciders in the Discover Box and Elevated Box 281: Cider Fueled Road Trip to NY and PA Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Who is Ploughman Cider Ploughman Cider is based in Wenksville Pennsylvania on a family farm owned by the Wenks Family for the past 100 years. The farm is called Three Springs and it is exactly 1.5 miles from the ancestral farm that started back in 1818 when the first Wenk arrived from Switzerland. Dave Wenk The farm today has dedicated 6 acres to cider specific varieties. In addition the family grow other fruit trees for the fresh fruit market. The farm itself is managed by David Wenk who begins the episode with telling the back story of how the family came to Adams County. You will also hear from his son Ben Wenk who established the cider brand Ploughman. Ben along with cidermaker Edwin Winzeler began selling their ciders in 2016. Ben Wenk The Future looks bright for Ploughman Cider Fans Expect more More Single Varietal Ciders in the cue Tasting Room and Production Facility in Gardners, which is the same town that Big Hill Ciderworks in episode 289 is located. Both cideries are in Adams County which is a magnificent fruit belt with Apple Trees everywhere Contact for Ploughman Cider  Website: https://www.ploughmancider.com Address: 14 Lincoln Square Gettysburg, Pennsylvania 17325 Telephone: (717) 420-2582 Tip of the glass to the following sponsor for this episode 290 Northwest Cider Club - go to https://nwciderclub.com/podcast/ and sign up for the newsletter and next cider box offerings to be delivered directly to your doorstep! Mentions in this Chat 281: Cider Fueled Road Trip to NY and PA ciderGoingUP Campaign page and Sponsors Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

The Publican at Tattiebogle CiderWorks Cidermaker Curt Henry has been envisioning a future cidery in Acme Pennsylvania overlooking the lowland valley in southwestern portion of this commonwealth for years.  In 2017 he had already planted a cider orchard on the site and this year the tasting room at Tattiebogle opened to the public. As Curt says, "This isn't my first rodeo (read: running a successful enterprise)" and it shows as this modern and traditional cidery continues to grow with big plans for expansion in the coming year. Not everyone can embody the role of a Publican, because it requires not only taking ownership of a bar, but also offering up a welcoming site and actually being on site to greet patrons. Curt does it all! What to expect at Tattiebogle Modern and Traditional cider on tap and to go Indoor and outdoor seating A spectacular view A hitching post for your horse Pulbican Curt Henry https://ciderchat.com/290tattiebogle/ Contact for Tattiebogle Ciderworks Website: https://www.tattiebogleciderworks.com/ Address: 175 Ankney Hill Road Acme, Pennsylvania 15610 Telephone: 1-724-424-2437 Tip of the glass to the following sponsor for this episode 290 Northwest Cider Club - go to https://nwciderclub.com/podcast/ and sign up for the newsletter and next cider box offerings to be delivered directly to your doorstep! Mentions in this Chat Kertelreiter Perry Pear Project Listen to a chat with Kertelreiter maker Barry Masterson - 251: Irish Expat in Germany | Kertelreiter Cider Episode 15 Chris Jackson | FreedomFarmTV, Georgia Tom Burford Book on Apples recommendation for Kirk Apples of North America: A Celebration of Exceptional Varieties Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat’s podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat’s blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube