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Jonathan Davis
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Sep 23, 2023 • 1h 12min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Colette Ord and Ben Conway (23 Sep 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is away in Europe. So, Stuart Watson is stepping in to provide a summary of the week's news and results. Jonathan did get a chance over the last week however, to speak to Colette Ord, infrastructure analysis at Numis Securities, and to conclude his conversation with Ben Conway, head of fund management at Hawksmoor Investment Management. That conversation follows on from their discussion a couple of weeks ago. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
0:00:44 - This week's guests
0:01:39 - Review of the week
0:02:38 - Corporate news and announcements
0:04:35 - Summary of results
0:13:04 - Money Makers Circle
0:13:25 - Q&A with Colette Ord
0:13:32 - Stabilisation of interest rates and the effect on derating
0:17:53 - Will a revival reward some trusts more than others?
0:21:54 - The lack of new competition
0:23:41 - Differences in discounts
0:25:55 - The renewables sector
0:28:50 - Energy storage trusts
0:31:24 - Digital infrastructure
0:33:19 - Diversified portfolios
0:34:26 - Sector rationalisation
0:35:46 - Q&A with Ben Conway
0:35:51 - Issues with investment trusts
0:39:01 - Are discounts a cyclical phenomenon?
0:41:58 - Alignment of incentives
0:44:50 - Manager disclosures of investments
0:46:59 - Share buybacks and other options
0:55:30 - Should investment trusts use gearing?
0:59:55 - The supply of investment trusts
1:08:42 - Competition to the investment trusts sector
1:11:19 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of the Global Smaller Companies Trust (GSCT), and the latest Editor's Notebook looking at discount opportunities.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 180 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Sep 16, 2023 • 57min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Tom Poynton and Dale Nicholls (16 Sep 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Tom Poynton, executive director at Baron & Grant, and Dale Nicholls, manager at Fidelity China Special Situations (FCSS). We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
00:44 - Review of the week
02:45 - This week's guests
03:25 - Corporate news and announcements
07:57 - Money Makers Circle
08:31 - Summary of results
13:28 - Q&A with Tom Poynton
13:38 - Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG)
19:46 - Private equity announcements
25:15 - Early stage venture capital trusts
30:00 - The renewables sector
33:39 - Outlook for discounts
36:04 - Cricket!
40:35 - Q&A with Dale Nicholls
40:50 - Disappointment for Chinese investment returns
42:03 - The property crisis
43:59 - Lessons from regulatory interventions
45:12 - The impact of geopolitical tensions on investment flows
46:47 - The attractiveness of valuations
49:36 - AI and the portfolio direction
51:20 - China's position within a portfolio
52:37 - Gearing level and policy
53:56 - Highlights and disappointments as trust manager
54:58 - The Long-term China story
56:13 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Round Hill Music Royalty Fund (RHM), Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC), TR Property Investment Trust (TRY), ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI), CQS New City High Yield (NCYF), BH Macro (BHMG), Vietnam Enterprise Investments (VEIL), North Atlantic Smaller Companies (NAS), Balanced Commercial Property Trust (BCPT), Schroder Asian Total Return (ATR), Foresight Solar Fund (FSFL), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Seraphim Space Investment Trust (SSIT), RTW Biotech Opportunities (RTW), Henderson High Income (HHI), AVI Japan Opportunity Trust (AJOT), Menhaden Resource Efficiency (MHN), Castelnau Group (CGL), Golden Prospect Precious Metals (GPM), Middlefield Canadian Income (MCT), VH Global Sustainable Energy Opportunities (GSEO), Ecofin US Renewables (RNEW), Dunedin Enterprise (DNE), Pantheon International (PIN), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), NextEnergy Solar Fund (NESF).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features an in-depth profile of the Alliance Trust (ATST), as well as a list of fifteen large and liquid investment trusts which Jonathan believes look attractive on discount grounds if we are nearing the end of the interest rate cycle.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Sep 9, 2023 • 48min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Ben Rogoff (09 Sep 2023)
In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Ben Rogoff, manager of the Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT). We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
01:00 - This week's guest
01:41 - Money Makers Circle
02:08 - Review of the week
06:16 - Corporate news and announcements
14:30 - Summary of results
16:21 - Q&A with Ben Rogoff
19:05 - What is generative AI?
23:49 - The expansion and use of AI capabilities
33:28 - Comparing to previous tech innovations
38:27 - What could derail AI?
41:28 - Fields that could be transformed
44:11 - A new lens by which to judge investments
47:27 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Round Hill Music Royalty Fund (RHM), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Ecofin US Renewables (RNEW), US Solar Fund (USF), International Public Partnerships (INPP), GCP Infrastructure (GCP), RM Infrastructure Income (RMII), Caledonia Investments (CLDN), HG Capital (HGT), LXi REIT (LXI), Home REIT (HOME), Schiehallion Fund (MNTN), Schroder Capital Global Innovation (INOV), AEW UK REIT (AEWU), RTW Biotech Opportunities (RTW), Gresham House Energy Storage (GRID), Gore Street Energy Storage (GSF), Pantheon Infrastructure (PINT), Mid Wynd International (MWY), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Apax Globle Alpha (APAX).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of JPMorgan European Discovery (JEDT). Jonathan has also listed ten investment trusts that he believes may offer an upside if there is a reversal in the derating driven by falling interest rates.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Sep 2, 2023 • 1h 3min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Andrew McHattie and Ben Conway (02 Sep 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Andrew McHattie, editor of the Investment Trusts Newsletter, and Ben Conway, Head of Fund Management at Hawksmoor Investment Management. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
0:00:44 - This week's guests
0:01:21 - Review of the week
0:03:19 - Corporate news
0:04:53 - Summary of results
0:07:10 - Summary of announcements
0:07:28 - Money Makers Circle
0:12:35 - Q&A with Andrew McHattie
0:12:44 - Happenings in the sector over the last couple of months
0:14:17 - Coping with the derating period
0:16:21 - Infrastructure and private equity rerating
0:18:40 - The danger of missing out in a derating cycle
0:20:33 - Potential direction of travel
0:22:45 - Literacy Capital (BOOK) and HG Capital (HGT)
0:27:04 - Biopharma Credit (BPCR)
0:29:17 - Other names of interest
0:32:13 - The return of arbitrage/activist trusts
0:35:06 - Q&A with Ben Conway
0:35:33 - Regulatory changes and cost disclosures
0:42:43 - The impact of regulatory change on investment companies
0:44:16 - What should happen now?
0:48:30 - Why does this matter?
0:54:27 - Are costs a downward pressure on share prices relative to NAVs?
1:01:44 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Geiger Counter (GCL), Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9), Seraphim Space (SSIT), BBGI Global Infrastructure (BBGI), Edinburgh Worldwide (EWI), Baillie Gifford Shin Nippon (BGS), Schroder European Real Estate (SERE), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Schiehallion (MNTN), Nippon Active Value Fund (NAVF), Henderson European Focus Trust (HEFT), Real Estate Credit Investments (RECI), Axiom European Debt Trust (AXI), Biopharma Credit (BPCR), Princess Private Equity Trust (PEY), Round Hill Music Royalty Fund (RHM), Triple Point Housing (SOHO), Harmony Energy Income Trust (HEIT), Pantheon International (PIN), Life Science REIT (LABS), HydrogenOne Capital Growth (HGEN), HG Capital Trust (HGT), Biopharma Credit (BPCR), Triple Point Energy Transition (TENT), SDCL Energy Efficiency (SEIT), US Solar Fund (USF), Gore Street Energy Storage (GSF), Greencoat UK Wind (UKW), Henderson Opportunities Trust (HOT), Herald Investment Trust (HRI), Pershing Square Holdings (PSH), Schroder Mid-Cap (SCP), European Opportunities Trust (EOT), Tritax Big Box (BBOX).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
his week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of JPMorgan European Discovery (JEDT).
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Aug 26, 2023 • 33min
Q&A with Rhys Davies (26 Aug 2023)
In this bonus edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, talks to Rhys Davies, manager of the Invesco Bond Income Plus Investment Trust (BIPS). We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
00:45 - The last eighteen months in the bond markets
02:45 - Has the interest rate and bond yield cycle peaked?
04:57 - Explaining a soft landing
07:05 - Portfolio yield and potential total return
09:38 - Assessing high yield bonds
14:07 - Managing a bond portfolio
19:24 - The regional split between the UK and Europe
22:48 - Investing in high yield through an investment trust
25:48 - Discount control policy
27:37 - The investment trust sector as a whole
30:43 - Biggest risks we face
32:42 - Close
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Aug 26, 2023 • 1h 1min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Max King and Rhys Davies (26 Aug 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Max King, the market and investment trust commentator and former Investec fund manager. Jonathan also talks to Rhys Davies, manager of the Invesco Bond Income Plus Investment Trust (BIPS); the first half of that discussion can be heard in the podcast, with the full interview available on the website or via podcast channels. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
00:44 - Review of the week
04:58 - This week's guest
05:38 - Money Makers Circle
06:24 - Corporate announcements and results
16:34 - Q&A with Max King
17:09 - The markets at the moment
19:01 - Abrdn mergers
20:29 - Global Absolute Return Strategies Fund (GARS)
21:20 - Regulation and trust reports
23:01 - Private equity sector
27:14 - Commercial property sector
30:19 - Alternatives sector
32:02 - Equity sector
34:20 - Defensive funds
37:28 - Looking forward
40:32 - Q&A with Rhys Davies (Part 1)
41:11 - The last eighteen months in the bond markets
43:11 - Has the interest rate and bond yield cycle peaked?
45:24 - Explaining a soft landing
47:31 - Portfolio yield and potential total return
50:04 - Assessing high yield bonds
54:34 - Managing a bond portfolio
59:50 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Abrdn UK Smaller Companies Growth Trust (AUSC), Atlantis Japan Growth (AJG), Nippon Active Value Fund (NAVF), Pershing Square Holdings (PSH), BlackRock World Mining (BRWM), Princess Private Equity (PEY), CT Private Equity Trust (CTPT), JPMorgan US Smaller Companies (JUSC), Cordiant Digital Infrastructure (CORD), NB Private Equity (NBPE), GCP Infrastructure (GCP), Home REIT (HOME), ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI), The Renewables Infrastructure Group (TRIG), 3i Infrastructure (3IN), HICL Infrastructure (HICL), International Public Partnerships (INPP), Blackstone Loan Financing (BGLF), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), Pantheon International (PIN), 3i Group (III), HarbourVest Global Private Equity (HVPE), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), HG Capital Trust (HGT), TR Property Investment Trust (TRY), Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC), BBGI Global Infrastructure (BBGI), Capital Gearing Trust (CGT), Ruffer Investment Company (RICA), Personal Assets Trust (PNL).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of the Invesco Perpetual UK Smaller Companies Trust (IPU), and a conversation with Graham Harrison, executive chairman of Asset Risk Consultants.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Aug 21, 2023 • 50min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with James Carthew (21 Aug 2023)
In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to James Carthew, director of QuotedData. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
This edition of the podcast was recorded during the week ending Friday 18 August 2023, prior to the latest update from the Board of Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC) following recent press speculation. It has confirmed it is in advanced discussions with RI UK 1 Limited, a wholly owned indirect subsidiary of Realty Income Corporation, regarding a possible sale of the fund’s property portfolio. There is currently no certainty that a sale of the portfolio will take place, nor as to the final terms on which any such sale might be undertaken. At this time the Board is continuing to conduct its previously announced strategic review and will do so until further notice.
Section Timestamps:
00:44 - Review of the week
05:14 - Money Makers Circle
05:30 - This week's guest
05:42 - Corporate news and announcements
11:43 - Summary of results
16:52 - Q&A with James Carthew
17:04 - The current state of affairs
20:10 - Riverstone Energy (RSE)
23:47 - Abrdn Asian trusts merger
26:50 - Long-term viability of Asian trusts
28:21 - ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI)
34:07 - Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC)
35:47 - Commercial property sector
38:37 - Renewable energy sector
42:37 - RIT Capital Partners (RCP)
44:06 - HG Capital Trust (HGT)
45:28 - The persistence of discounts
48:29 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC), BH Macro (BHMG), Baillie Gifford UK Growth (BHUK), Baillie Gifford European Growth (BGEU), Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (BGFD), Riverstone Energy (RSE), Aquila Energy Efficiency Trust (AEET), ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI), Abrdn New Dawn (ABD), Asia Dragon Trust (DGN), Witan Investment Trust (WTAN), Georgia Capital (GCAP), Temple Bar Investment Trust (TMPL), Abrdn Asian Income Fund (AAIF), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), Next Energy Solar Fund (NESF), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), HG Capital Trust (HGT).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle will feature a profile of Invesco Perpetual UK Smaller Companies (IPU). Jonathan has also released his video review of the bond market.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Aug 12, 2023 • 1h 7min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Colm Walsh and Emma Bird (12 Aug 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Colm Walsh, co-manager of the ICG Enterprise Trust (ICGT), and Emma Bird, head of investment trust research and specialist property analyst at Winterflood Securities.
Please note that due to holidays, the next podcast will be released later than normal, but it can be expected by Monday 21 August 2023.
We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
0:01:26 - This week's guests
0:02:06 - Review of the week
0:04:53 - Corporate news and announcements
0:12:33 - Summary of results
0:15:51 - Money Makers Circle
0:16:48 - Q&A with Colm Walsh
0:16:56 - Are wide discounts about to turn?
0:18:28 - Putting shareholder interests first
0:19:19 - Mid-market private equity
0:21:27 - Why large discounts exist
0:24:02 - Fees in private equity
0:25:51 - Consequences of sharp interest rate rises
0:30:41 - The risk of recession
0:36:08 - The trust's dividend
0:41:36 - Q&A with Emma Bird
0:41:54 - The general picture in commercial property
0:44:24 - Relative dividend yields compared to gilts
0:45:45 - Likelihood of a recession
0:46:34 - Mergers and acquisitions
0:49:41 - Poor performers
0:51:03 - Dividend sustainability
0:53:31 - Five-year performance
0:55:12 - Warehouse REITs
0:57:11 - The role of asset management
0:58:58 - Share buybacks
01:00:24 - The potential for a recovery in share prices
01:01:24 - Healthcare REITs
01:03:55 - Long-lease REITs
01:05:16 - Commercial property sector discounts overall
1:06:08 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of BlackRock Frontiers Trust (BRFI), and Jonathan has released his video review of the infrastructure sector.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Aug 5, 2023 • 1h 1min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Simon Barnard and Ewan Lovett-Turner (05 Aug 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Simon Barnard, manager of the Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), and Ewan Lovett-Turner, head of investment trust research at Numis Securities. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
0:00:44 - This week's guest
0:01:25 - Review of the week
0:04:20 - Corporate news and announcements
0:09:06 - Money Makers Circle
0:10:02 - Summary of results
0:16:10 - Q&A with Simon Barnard
0:16:24 - The last seven months and where we are today
0:18:24 - The changing outlook for a recession
0:22:46 - The behaviour of the currencies and the impact on results
0:23:31 - Portfolio turnover
0:25:52 - Interest in AI
0:30:45 - Rightmove and the UK housing market
0:32:55 - Attractiveness of the UK market
0:34:05 - General message to shareholders
0:35:23 - Q&A with Ewan Lovett-Turner
0:35:34 - Discounts
0:37:25 - The outlook for interest rates and reratings
0:39:55 - Issues for boards to address
0:48:12 - Management changes
0:50:04 - Board decisions on capital allocation
0:57:16 - Value in alternative assets
0:59:09 - Equity trusts
1:00:04 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
As well as the regular features, this week sees the introduction of a new Readers' Questions feature. There is no fund profile this week, but next week's profile will be of BlackRock Frontiers Investment Trust (BRFI). Jonathan has also published the first of his video reviews looking at sector performance, with a second video due soon.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. This podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin

Jul 29, 2023 • 44min
Weekly Investment Trusts Podcast - with Andrew McHattie (29 Jul 2023)
In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Andrew McHattie, editor of the Investment Trusts Newsletter. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
Section Timestamps:
00:44 - This week's guest
00:57 - Review of the week
04:42 - Corporate news and announcements
09:51 - Summary of results
14:25 - Money Makers Circle
15:04 - Q&A with Andrew McHattie
15:15 - The current state of affairs
18:33 - Commercial property
25:17 - Consolidation and mergers
32:03 - Private equity
38:07 - UK smaller companies
43:49 - Close
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers): Abrdn Smaller Companies Income (ASCI), Boussard & Gavaudan (BGHL), HydrogenOne (HGEN), Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9), Abrdn New Dawn (ABD) / Abdrn Asia Dragon (DGN), Abrdn Smaller Companies Income (ASCI) / Shires Income (SHRS), Abrdn Diversified Income and Growth (ADIG), MIGO Opportunities Trust (MIGO), Home REIT (HOME), Taylor Maritime Investments (TMI), Invesco Asia (IAT), Henderson Diversified Income (HDIV), International Public Partnerships (INPP), Law Debenture (LWDB), BlackRock Throgmorton Trust (THRG), Target Healthcare REIT (THRL), AEW UK REIT (AEWU), Dunedin Income Growth (DIG), Murray Income (MUT), Abrdn Private Equity Oportunities (APEO), HG Capital Trust (HGCT), HarbourVest Global Private Equity (HVPE), ICG Enterprise (ICGT), Pantheon International (PIN), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), Rockwood Strategic (RKW), Triple Point Energy Transition (TENT), Seraphim Space Investment Trust (SSIT), Chrysalis Investment Trust (CHRY).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of ICG Enterprise Trust (ICGT), followed next week by a profile of BlackRock Frontiers Investment Trust (BRFI). Jonathan will also be completing his reviews of various investment trust sectors over the coming days.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 170 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.