Elixir Wizards

Our guest today, Devon Estes, approached us about the possible opportunity for Elixir to optimize and build out the pandas data analysis and manipulation tool, sharing why he thinks it would be a valuable addition to the Elixir open source ecosystem. But Devon joins us to contribute to our ongoing discussion about performance and training in the Elixir world, sharing about his current work on the beta for Sketch Cloud, his previous Erlang consultancy role at one of the largest banks in Europe, and the massive responsibility he carried while working on the bottom line application. He continues to advise listeners on the considerations for optimizing Erlang performance and solving database-specific problems, and the memory constraints he comes up against in the Sketch Cloud application. Devon talks about Benchee, a benchmarking library created by his friend, and how the two of them have continued to develop this tool, including its performance testing capabilities and how they deconstructed the benchmarking steps to build out the library. He also talks more broadly about the importance of considering the data when distinguishing between facts and opinions in conversations about performance. Key Points From This Episode: What Devon believes would be a valuable addition to the Elixir open source ecosystem. Why optimizing and building out the pandas tool will be worth a company’s time and effort. Devon’s experience with pandas and Python, and recognizing the opportunity for Elixir. Working on the beta for Sketch’s Cloud that will allow real-time collaboration. Devon’s consultancy role at Klarna, one of the largest banks in Europe. The responsibility involved in working on the bottom-of-the-stack application at Klarna. Considerations for optimizing Erlang performance and why you should look at the tail. Solving the database performance problems – running queries and searches – at Klarna. The unique memory constraints of Sketch Cloud and the problem with receiving large files. More about Benchee, a benchmarking library, and all its performance testing capabilities. Deciding whether a function is responsible for other things when benchmarking. The time Devon spends on optimizing performance and the first two steps in the process. The profiling process of determining which function is slow and writing a benchmark for it. Distinguish between a fact and an opinion by considering the data (or lack thereof). Keeping in mind that truth is time-bound, and it also applies to benchmarking. Deconstructing the steps in the process of further developing Benchee. How Devon became a maintainer of the Elixir track for Exercism, and what the role involves. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Devon Estes — http://www.devonestes.com Devon Estes on Twitter — https://twitter.com/devoncestes?lang=en Devon Estes on GitHub — https://github.com/devonestes pandas — https://pandas.pydata.org Python — https://www.python.org Sketch — https://www.sketch.com Klarna — https://www.klarna.com/international/ Erlang — https://www.erlang.org PostgreSQL — https://www.postgresql.org Ruby — https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ Adopting Elixir — https://www.amazon.com/Adopting-Elixir-Production-Ben-Marx/dp/1680502522 Exercism — https://exercism.io JavaScript — https://www.javascript.com Benchee — https://github.com/bencheeorg SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Elixir — https://elixir-lang.org Elixir Wizards Podcast — https://podcast.smartlogic.io Update: What's Inside a Reduction? http://www.devonestes.com/inside-a-reductionSpecial Guest: Devon Estes.

Welcome back to the show for this special edition Lunchisode, coming to you live from the Lonestar Elixir 2020 Conference! We have a revolving door of speakers at this informal roundtable and a few friends and associates stop by to introduce themselves, share their thoughts on the conference so far and subjects that they care about. We follow up on some of the ideas raised in the Lonestar preview episode as well as hear about new and interesting ways that Elixir is being used at a variety of companies, including SalesLoft, ActiveProspect, SmartRent and more! We also consider the place of Elixir education and go deeper on the topic of finding fun and meaning in our programming pursuits and beyond. Join us for this special edition and stay tuned for the next installment soon. Key Points From This Episode: Thoughts on the conference so far — the talks and venue. SalesLoft's Elixir adoption and how the decision was made by those in power. Bruce Williams' current work at GitHub and his project on Absinthe. Elixir usage in Mexico and the prominent organizations and companies that use it. Some information on the Observability Working Group and what they are currently busy with. Differences between tracing and logging; tracing is essentially distributed logging. What it means for the programmer when they bump up against a challenge! The amount of effort that should go into developing entry points for new Elixir developers. Education in the Elixir space and the success of the bootcamp model. Considering the ongoing utility of unit tests and changing up training strategies. The work done by SmartRent in real estate and how Elixir fits into their tech stack. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Lonestar Elixir — https://lonestarelixir.com/ Bruce Tate — https://twitter.com/redrapids Steve Bussey — https://twitter.com/YOOOODAAAA Bruce Williams — https://twitter.com/wbruce Ricardo Echavarria — https://twitter.com/r_icarus Brain Naegele — https://twitter.com/bside_bryan Frank Kumro — https://twitter.com/frigidcode Zach Thomas — https://twitter.com/ZachDCThom Dave Thomas — https://twitter.com/pragdave Jon Carstens — https://twitter.com/JonCarstens Todd Resudek — https://twitter.com/sprsmpl SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ SalesLoft — https://salesloft.com/ Absinthe — https://github.com/absinthe-graphql/absinthe Sophie DeBenedetto — http://sophiedebenedetto.nyc/ RestFest — https://www.restfest.org/ Observability Working Group — https://erlef.org/wg/observability GigCity Elixir Conference — https://www.gigcityelixir.com/ ActiveProspect — https://activeprospect.com/ The Pragmatic Programmer — https://pragprog.com/book/tpp20/the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition SmartRent — https://smartrent.com/ Blinker — https://www.blinker.com/Special Guests: Brain Naegele, Bruce Tate, Bruce Williams, Dave Thomas, Frank Kumro, Jon Carstens, Ricardo Echavarria, Steve Bussey, Todd Resudek, and Zach Thomas.

This week we're delighted to share a special format bonus episode! We are joined by guest co-host Todd Resudek as well as a number of guests who each share a little bit about what they're working on and in many cases their upcoming presentations at Lonestar Elixir. Special episode guests: Angel Jose, Senior Platform Engineer at Cars.com Dave Lucia, VP of Engineering at SimpleBet Greg Mefford, Senior Back-End Engineer at Bleacher Report Melvin Cedeno, Elixir Developer at SplitGyms Zach Thomas, API Developer at Blinker Most of our guests weigh in about their upcoming presentations at the event and we also get to chat about a few near and dear topics with our rotating cast. We hear about where they are working, their experiences with Elixir and their thoughts on education and company culture. It's an unusual episode but one we are so glad to have had the chance to make! We also find time to touch on our focus for the next season of the podcast, which is very exciting for all of us over here at the show. Remember to stay plugged in for more on Lonestar Elixir and attend if you can! Key Points From This Episode: Some thoughts on LiveView and its adoption by new developers. Angel's work at Cars and how they are using Elixir and LiveView to rewrite everything. Chatbots and the immediate benefits of using Elixir to rewrite them. The elevator pitch on SimpleBet and the tech stack, skillset and ecosystem of the company. Why Dave and his team have moved away from Rust! A quick tease of what to expect for Season 4 of the podcast: Architecture of Applications! How Bleacher Report is using Elixir to build the 'third space' for sports fans. Team building and expansion at Bleacher Report and the stages of scaling. A sneak preview of Greg's upcoming talk at Lonestar! How Greg got started with Nerves and why it has a special place in his heart. The theme of Melvin's talk at Lonestar; untraditional routes and emotions in tech. Considering the usefulness of boot camps, the value of ISAs and CS programs. Zach's background in Elixir and his current work at Blinker with the language. Experiences at Turing and in liberal arts during college. Zach's Lonestar talk elevator pitch: 'Getting the Frog out of the Well'. The allegory of the cave, 'what is water' and how this differs from Zach's idea. Why don't we like statically typed things as much as we should? Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Lonestar Elixir 2020 — https://lonestarelixir.com/ Todd Resudek — https://medium.com/@toddresudek Todd Resudek on Twitter — https://twitter.com/sprsmpl Angel Jose — https://github.com/ajose01 Dave Lucia — https://github.com/davydog187 Greg Mefford — https://github.com/GregMefford/blinkchain Melvin Cedeno — https://gist.github.com/normanrs/eeb5cc91cb10eeb7d3e43168396efb27 Zack Thomas — https://github.com/zeam-vm/pelemay Sophie DeBenedetto — http://sophiedebenedetto.nyc/ LiveView — https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/Phoenix.LiveView.html ElixirConf — https://elixirconf.com/events Cars — https://www.cars.com/ SimpleBet — https://www.simplebet.io/ Full Stack Developer Horse Drawing Meme — https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1624070-unfinished-horse-drawing Conway's Law — https://www.thoughtworks.com/insights/blog/applying-conways-law-improve-your-software-development ElixirConf 2019 - Lighting Talk - Are There Benefits Of Crying In Tech — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW5Plkroyxk TRON — https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tron Smart Mirror Blog Post — https://medium.com/@toddresudek/building-a-smart-mirror-with-phoenix-liveview-18193ee6438f Bleacher Report — https://bleacherreport.com/ Team Topologies — https://teamtopologies.com/ Nerves — https://nerves-project.org/ Turing — https://turing.io/ CIRR — https://cirr.org/ David Heinemeier Hansson — https://dhh.dk/ Blinker — https://www.blinker.com/ David Foster Wallace — http://www.davidfosterwallacebooks.com/ Gödel, Escher, Bach — https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24113.G_del_Escher_BachSpecial Guests: Angel Jose, Dave Lucia, Greg Mefford, Melvin Cedeno, Todd Resudek, and Zach Thomas.

Today on the show, we’re joined by Mike Binns and Alex Garibay of DockYard. In this episode, Mike and Alex share their journeys of how they came to work at DockYard and give us a view into DockYard’s hiring and training processes, systems, and philosophies. Here they share what they enjoy most about working at DockYard and their emphasis on being supported in your continual growth as an employee and human being. Key Points from This Episode: Find out how Mike and Alex both got their jobs at DockYard in 2016. Working for a fully remote company: Mike and Alex share their experiences. The amount of languages used at DockYard and what the day-to-day looks like. React VS Ember: Find out DockYard’s opinion on the debate between the two. How to know whether you should be using JavaScript or Live View on your projects. The importance of inclusion and empowerment in the onboarding process at DockYard. How to support and train new employees in “soft” skills, such as communication. Personal strategies Mike and Alex use to help “soften the blow” of feedback and criticism. Discover what DockYard does to support the learning growth of their employees. Learn more about DockYard Friday and the exciting projects that have emerged from it. Helpful resources for learning Elixir and how to remain a curious learner as a developer. Find out the top skills that make a great engineering manager at DockYard today. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Mike Binns on Twitter — https://twitter.com/1stAvenger Mike Binns on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebinns Alex Garibay — https://alexgaribay.com/ Alex Garibay on Twitter — https://twitter.com/_AlexGaribay Alex Garibay on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandergaribay/ DockYard — https://DockYard.com/ SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ RailsConf — https://railsconf.com/ Chris McCord — http://chrismccord.com/ Ember — https://emberjs.com/ Live View — https://support.google.com/maps/thread/11554255?hl=en Elixir in Action — https://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Action-Sa%C5%A1a-Juri-cacute/dp/1617295027 Elixir Conf 2014 Keynote by Dave Thomas — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hDVftaPQwY Sarah Drasner — https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/ Lonestar Elixir — https://lonestarelixir.com/ Programming Phoenix — https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Phoenix-Productive-Reliable-Fast/dp/1680501453 Jason Goldberger — https://twitter.com/jsonlouis_Special Guests: Alex Garibay and Mike Binns.

Today on Elixir Wizards we are delighted to be joined by Sean Lewis, a senior backend architect at Divvy. One of the many impressive facts about Sean is that he is entirely self-taught, from dabbling in Python and coding to eventually writing a bunch of Ruby tests and working his way up in the product development sphere. In his free time, he likes to play around with electronics and work on other tech-related projects such as developing custom smart home devices. In this episode, Sean discusses his recent Meetup talk on the implementation of Broadway and explains Divvy’s tech stack choices that include React, Elixir, and Python. He dives into the topic of hiring for Elixir, outlining the challenges and providing strategies and resources to equip new developers in the area of functional programming. For Sean, the most important aspect of onboarding is teaching newcomers to ask the right questions since this is the foundation of the problem-solving process. He shares about Divvy’s approach to recruitment, his role as mentor, how they go about retaining and continuously growing their developers, the importance of being teachable, and then Sean concludes by giving listeners practical advice for ensuring data fidelity. Key Points From This Episode: Sean’s self-taught journey and role as senior backend architect at Divvy. The smart home projects he has recently worked on, including a smart garage. An overview of Broadway and Sean’s Meetup talk regarding implementation. The straightforward tech stack at Divvy: React, Elixir, and Python. The difficulty of hiring for Elixir and finding fintech companies that use Elixir. Strategies and resources for training new engineers on Elixir and functional programming. Why fintech works well with functional programming in the context of authorization. Training state-minimization as a primary concern. Onboarding: a process of teaching developers to ask the right questions. Divvy’s approach to finding and recruiting new employees. Thoughts on why so many Utahn companies use Elixir and the city’s exponential growth. How Sean was recruited by Divvy, his progression to architect, and his role as a mentor. Critical practices for onboarding developers, including assimilating them into the culture. How Devvy continues to grow and retain its engineers. The importance of challenging yourself, constantly learning, and staying teachable. Implementing high-quality checkpoints and other advice for ensuring data fidelity. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Sean Lewis on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-lewis-40375077/ Sean Lewis on Twitter — https://twitter.com/fricsean?lang=en Sean Lewis on GitHub — https://github.com/SophisticaSean Divvy — https://getdivvy.com Ruby — https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ Broadway — https://hexdocs.pm/broadway/amazon-sqs.html Utah Elixir Meetup — https://www.meetup.com/utah-elixir React — https://reactjs.org Elixir — https://elixir-lang.org Susumu Yamazaki on Twitter — https://twitter.com/zacky1972 Domain Modeling Made Functional — https://www.amazon.com/Domain-Modeling-Made-Functional-Domain-Driven-ebook/dp/B07B44BPFB Slack — https://slack.com/ MongoDB — https://www.mongodb.com PostgreSQL — https://www.postgresql.org Elixir Wizards Podcast — https://podcast.smartlogic.io SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Special Guest: Sean Lewis.

In line with our current working-with-Elixir theme, today we’re talking about performance with Paul Schoenfelder and Hans Elias Josephsen from DockYard. The two have been working on Lumen, and in this episode, they discuss how this project is incorporated with WebAssembly, a binary instruction format that ultimately allows Elixir to be run in the browser and preserve the semantics of the language. Paul and Hans talk about the specific aspects of Lumen they are working on; the data flow and process of writing Elixir; and the compiler, interpreter and run-time functions involved. Joining in this conversation, you will also hear how they approached starting developing Lumen as a brand new compiler, researching, the aspects Paul wanted to tackle first, and when users can expect Lumen to be released. We also talk about the performance concerns they encountered along the way, the many reasons why Rust was their programming language of choice, and their thoughts on generic associated types in Rust. Key Points From This Episode: • How Paul and Hans got introduced to Elixir and working for DockYard. • An overview of what Lumen is and how it relates to WebAssembly. • WebAssembly code to run Elixir in the browser and preserve the semantics of the language. • The different aspects of the Lumen project that Paul and Hans are involved in. • The data flow and process when writing Elixir and how the compiler function features. • Taking advantage of optimizations that can be performed on the code that is generated. • An explanation of the interpreter and run-time parts of the project. • How they approached the major task of starting with a brand new compiler. • The process of researching and why Paul wanted to get a frontend in place first. • The production readiness of Lumen and when they expect to release it. • Performance concerns they encountered during development. • The relevance of code size for the WebAssembly backend to be usable. • Why Rust was the best choice for building the compiler. • Using Elixir to generate a standard binary that can run on any machine. • A description of generic associated types in Rust and why they are controversial. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Paul Schoenfelder on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/gotbones/ Paul Schoenfelder on Twitter — https://twitter.com/gotbones?lang=en Hans Elias Josephsen on Twitter — https://twitter.com/hansihe DockYard — https://dockyard.com Elixir — https://elixir-lang.org WebAssembly — https://webassembly.org Rust — https://www.rust-lang.org JavaScript — https://www.javascript.com C++ — http://www.cplusplus.com SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Special Guests: Hans Elias Josephsen and Paul Schoenfelder.

Today on the show we are joined by Sophie DeBenedetto from GitHub and Meryl Dakin from Frame.io to talk about the processes involved in training others and building Elixir projects. They share about studying and working together at the Flatiron School and what they do now in their respective new roles at Github and Frame.io. During their time at Flatiron, they worked on various projects, often collaborating with engineering teams from other companies and having to train these team members in Elixir. They talk about how they managed to develop new features while simultaneously onboarding new people and getting everyone on the same page. For them, the pair programming model had been most beneficial, and they discuss the habits and practices they implemented to encourage team members, optimize each learning experience, and share knowledge during training events. Sophie and Meryl also share the Elixir-specific challenges they encountered while developing applications for 2U, how Elixir’s failure-first programming capability guided them, how they prepare for training workshops, and the productivity hacks that keep them focused and energized. Key Points From This Episode: • How Sophie and Meryl know each other from working and studying at the Flatiron School. • Frame.io as a tool that facilitates the communication between video editors and clients. • Meryl’s new role as a full-stack developer working with Elixir and React. • The projects they worked on at Flatiron and partnering with various companies like 2U. • Their secret to developing new features while also introducing new team members to Elixir. • The benefits of pair programming and teaching a programming language to others. • Reserving time to celebrate wins and knowledge share during training events. • Key lessons they learned from their collaboration with the 2U team. • Elixir-specific challenges during the development of the applications project with 2U. • How Elixir’s failure-first programming capability ultimately helps developers. • Sophie and Meryl’s experience using LiveView at Flatiron and the problems encountered. • The work that went into preparing for training workshops. • Advice for teaching someone who is not technical to become a working developer. • Productivity hacks to stay focused and regain energy. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Sophie DeBenedetto on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiedebenedetto/ Sophie DeBenedetto on Twitter — https://twitter.com/sm_debenedetto Meryl Dakin in LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/meryldakin/ Meryl Dakin on Twitter — https://twitter.com/meryldakin Eric Oestrich — https://oestrich.org Frame.io — https://frame.io GitHub — https://github.com Flatiron School — https://flatironschool.com Elixir — https://elixir-lang.org React — https://reactjs.org 2U — https://2u.com Kubernetes — https://kubernetes.io Ruby — https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ Elixir School — https://elixirschool.com/en/ Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain — https://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Right-Side-Brain-Definitive/dp/1585429201 Etsy — https://www.etsy.com EMPEX NYC Conference — https://empex.co/nyc.html SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Special Guests: Meryl Dakin and Sophie DeBenedetto.

In today’s episode we have one of our favorite recurring guests, Brooklyn Zelenka, joining us once again! Brooklyn has been on the show in both the first and second seasons to speak about Elixir and functional programming. In those conversations, it came up that this topic is far from exhausted, and since Season 3's theme is working with Elixir, we thought it would be great to have Brooklyn on for a third time. Today, Brooklyn does not speak to Elixir specifically though, but on functional programming more broadly. Fission, her company which is working on developing next-generation hostless apps, actually uses Haskel, but Brooklyn has a ton of experience across the board. She gives us some great insights into what makes the functional versus OOP paradigm great and helps us to understand some of the inner workings of both worlds, talking about abstraction, application, data orientation, and more. Interestingly, Brooklyn does employ some imperative programming in her company through the use of Typescript, but uses a functional style to get around the context switch. We spend some time toward the end of the show digging deeper into macros, and Brooklyn helps to revise understandings of them as code which writes more code as well as clarifies the term 'homoiconic' as it relates to ASTs. Brooklyn covers a whole lot more today so hop on for a deep dive into functional programming with today's great guest. Key Points From This Episode: • Why Brooklyn uses FPE: it can be reused and reasoned about. • Two things that functions provide: abstraction and application. • Data orientation and hiding information: imperative vs functional paradigms. • Understanding imperative programming: it’s less structured and hard to reason about. • Challenges experienced imperative programmers face with functional programming. • Differences between Elixir, Erlang, Haskel, Elm, and Clojure. • Using Clojure: tradeoffs, distinctions, tooling, flexibility, and compatibility with Java. • The language Brooklyn could use if only one existed: Racket. • Bridging functional and imperative paradigms through disciplined use of style. • Segfaults in Haskell related to its compatibility with lib C. • How to use Musl instead of lib C by employing docker files. • Algebraic types and why static types aren’t hindrances in functional languages. • Preferences for tests or proofs and their role in finding types valuable. • Macros as compile-time functions that are difficult to debug. • A definition of a ‘homoiconic’: high-level syntax which represents the AST. • What makes C macros different from Lisp ones. • Architecture in Elixir and the need for a more user-friendly Haskell. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Brooklyn Zelenka on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooklynzelenka/ Fission — https://fission.codes/ Seven Languages in Seven Weeks — https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Languages-Weeks-Programming-Programmers/dp/193435659X Chris Keathley — https://keathley.io/ Hackers and Painters — https://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Painters-Big-Ideas-Computer/dp/1449389554 Paul Graham — http://www.paulgraham.com/Special Guest: Brooklyn Zelenka.

Groxio is a great platform that allows programmers to learn new languages easily and broaden their horizons. Our guests today are the team behind Groxio, Bruce and Maggie Tate! In our discussion, we cover the basics and the not so basics of what they do, from how they got into the Elixir world and founded Groxio to the conferences they run and the books they have published. We also talk about the benefits of learning multiple languages and Bruce makes a strong argument for the influence that smaller coding languages have had on his Elixir skills. Maggie and Bruce open up about having a professional and personal partnership and how they manage their marriage and businesses side by side. To finish off we hear about all the exciting things to expect at the Lonestar Conference this year and how it is going to be even better than last year's! Key Points From This Episode: • Bruce and Maggie's background in Elixir and how they started Groxio. • What sets Groxio apart from similar technical education companies. • The inspiration that Bruce got from the Crystal and Pony languages. • How curiosity and dopamine are linked; following new and interesting pathways. • Maggie and Bruce's personal and professional partnership and how they manage it. • The Elixir books that still need to be written and under-appreciated published ones. • A guide to Bruce's books and which to read for particular applications. • Running a conference; the stressful and fun parts for Maggie and Bruce. • Aspirations for the conferences and what to expect at this year's events. • Exciting speakers that will be appearing at the Lone Star Conference. • The controversy around the new Lone Star bat logo! • A few special plugs from our guests for things they are passionate about. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Bruce and Maggie Tate — https://grox.io/about Bruce Tate on Twitter — https://twitter.com/redrapids Maggie Tate on Twitter — https://twitter.com/gardenertate Groxio — https://grox.io/ Gig City Elixir — https://www.gigcityelixir.com/ Lone Star Elixir — https://lonestarelixir.com/ Crystal — https://crystal-lang.org/ Pony — https://www.ponylang.io/ Joe Armstrong — https://joearms.github.io/ Elixir in Action — https://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Action-Sa%C5%A1a-Juri-cacute/dp/161729201X Designing Elixir Systems — https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Elixir-Systems-OTP-Self-healing/dp/1680506617/ Andrea Leopardi — https://confengine.com/user/andrea-leopardiSpecial Guests: Bruce Tate and Maggie Tate.

On today's show, we are joined by Dan Ivovich from our team here at SmartLogic! Dan is the Director of Development Operations and has already been a guest and cohost a few times on the show. Today we are talking about hiring and training and his experience with these tasks at the company and especially concerning Elixir. We discuss the challenges Dan has faced in recruiting and the ways in which SmartLogic has lined up resumes and possible candidates through events and meetups. Dan explains some of the difficulties that are common for programmers transitioning into Elixir and how the company approaches the tasks of onboarding and ongoing support. We also get into Dan's favorite resources and tools for staying abreast of Elixir and his recommendations for practices to learn fast as a newcomer before he explains how he thinks about continual learning and expanding his own skillset. The conversation finishes with some thoughts and reflections on functional programming from our guest, so make sure to tune in for all of that and more! Key Points From This Episode: Dan's role at SmartLogic and how he leads the team. Recruiting new employees; collecting resumes and attending events. Challenges posed by recruiting good Elixir programmers and who to look for. Sticking points for people transitioning into Elixir from other languages. The stack at SmartLogic and the number of projects based in Elixir. Onboarding at the company; skills that are transferable to Elixir. Professional development and ongoing support for team members. Dan's favorite tools and resources for learning Elixir. Continual learning and Dan's strategies for growing his skillset. A simple definition of functional programming and Dan's early experiences with it. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: SmartLogic — https://smartlogic.io/ Dan Ivovich — https://www.danivovich.com/ Dan Ivovich on Twitter — https://twitter.com/danivovich ElixirConf — https://elixirconf.com/events Java — https://www.java.com/ Ruby — https://www.ruby-lang.org/ Python — https://www.python.org/ Rails — https://rubyonrails.org/ Rust — https://www.rust-lang.org/ GO — https://golang.org/ Twitch — https://www.twitch.tv/ Bruce Tate — https://codesync.global/speaker/bruce-tate/ Scala — https://www.scala-lang.org/Special Guest: Dan Ivovich.