

The Voice of Insurance
The Voice of Insurance Mark Geoghegan
Insurance is a maze. Don’t get lost.
Mark Geoghegan asks directions from all the top people in the Global Insurance and Reinsurance Industry
Mark Geoghegan asks directions from all the top people in the Global Insurance and Reinsurance Industry
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Apr 22, 2022 • 36min
Special Episode: Being everywhere multiple times a day with Stephen Lathrope, Global Head of Insurance, ICEYE
Wow.
Wow is not a word we use very much in insurance. But this special episode is full of moments where the perfectly logical response is to say “Wow!”
For instance:
Did you know the insurance industry had a fast-growing fleet of private satellites at its disposal, capable of giving 100% global coverage? Wow.
Did you know those satellites can see in the dark and through cloud, smoke and dust? Wow.
Did you know they orbit the earth multiple times a day, giving you near real-time information and they can also make incredibly accurate measurements down to the millimetre? Wow.
Did you know that the physical and intellectual property behind this network has been developed and is owned by ICEYE itself? Wow.
Over the past couple of decades we have become used to applying satellite imagery in property insurance. We also all knew that satellite technology had come a long way because of miniaturisation and a massive reduction in cost.
But until now I don’t think we had realised quite how far things had progressed and what possibilities this could open up for the insurance sector.
Today I am talking to Global Head of Insurance Stephen Lathrope about micro-satellite and data and insurance insights and solutions business ICEYE and its plans for the industry.
A few minutes into our chat and it is clear that the applications for this new tech are almost limitless and ICEYE has only just begun scratching the surface of what is possible.
Persistent monitoring of static objects is one clear application and the use cases for flood and many parametric covers also stand out. Windstorm, wildfire, hail and tsunami are also on the list.
But it quickly emerges that it is the blending of ICEYE’s extraordinary satellite data with other data sources, forecasts, maps and models that is going to add the most value.
That’s where you come in. It’s fairly obvious from a listen that I really enjoyed my time chatting to Stephen.
So I think you should Listen to the podcast for the sheer pleasure of it and let some of the wow moments sink in.
Then in time let all the ideas for new products percolate up to the surface and then get in touch with ICEYE and tell them how you would use their technology.
Because the final link in the chain is the insurance industry itself.
Enjoy the podcast.
NOTES AND LINKS
Learn more about ICEYE's Solutions here, or download their latest Flood Briefings here
ICEYE has a webinar series starting soon, explaining the value of SAR Technology. Sign Up here
And any late 1970’s low-budget Brit Sci-Fi fans, just Google ‘Blake’s 7’ and see what Stephen and I were talking about!

Apr 12, 2022 • 35min
Ep 119 Scott Purviance CEO AmWins: A Market built for Creativity and Response
In this podcast I’m talking to the top broking CEO in the most interesting segment of the insurance market anywhere in the world.
Scott Purviance is the CEO of Amwins, the largest of the big three US wholesale insurance brokers. Because of this he has the best view of the trends affecting the world’s largest insurance market.
And because wholesale is such an responsive escape valve for the market, any pricing, coverage or capacity pressures are immediately picked up by his organisation. His business also connects directly to the wider international markets and is a major producer of income for all concerned.
Scott is relaxed, charming, and engaging. He’s also really smart and has an ability to both analyse and articulate the long-term trends that are affecting the market.
In this interview we dissect all the hotspots and crunch points in the US and get a sense of where things might be heading.
We also discuss the fast-growing `hybrid carrier phenomenon, broker M&A and why he doesn’t see Amwins stock heading for the public markets any time soon.
LINKS
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank our advertiser Anaplan and Conor Donohoe and Daniel Ellis for coming on the show to explain what Anaplan's platform does for the insurance sector.
Email contacts:
conor.donohoe@anaplan.com
daniel.ellis@mentattechnology.co.uk

Apr 5, 2022 • 32min
Ep 118 Vicky Carter: Nurturing the Future of the Industry
Today I’m talking to Vicky Carter, a very senior reinsurance broking executive with a glittering career.
As well as chairing Capital Solutions, International at Guy Carpenter, Vicky is a Member of The Council of Lloyd's and is a Lloyd's Deputy Chairman.
But we aren’t going to be talking about her day job intermediating between the insurance community and the reinsurance and capital markets and helping to guide and represent 1 Lime Street.
That’s because for over a decade Vicky has also been directly involved in Guy Carpenter, MMC and the wider market’s youth development programmes.
This work has culminated in the very high-profile Rising Professionals series of events in London.
As the first post-pandemic edition is fast approaching I decided to focus this interview on what our industry has learned from the pandemic and what plans and strategies there are to get young people’s careers back on track now that the world is tentatively returning back to face-to-face working.
Were there any positives from the accidental work-from-home revolution caused by Covid?
And how has insurance fared versus other sectors in the Great Resignation that has followed in its wake?
Vicky is one of the market’s great communicators and this is a typically enjoyable and frank encounter, that doesn’t duck any of the big questions.
LINKS
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo
For enquiries about the MMC Rising Professionals event contact: mmcrpforum@events-uk.com
Vicky was last on the podcast back in Episode 37 in August 2020

Mar 29, 2022 • 39min
Ep 117 Channelling a Raging Torrent of Insurance Innovation: George Beattie, Head of Incubation Underwriting at Beazley and Co-chair of the Lloyd’s Product Launchpad
Today’s guest is someone with a really difficult and really important job. You could say that the future prosperity of the insurance market is a big part of his remit.
We keep fretting about how hard it is, and how it seems to be getting harder still, to innovate in our industry and how if we don’t do it fast enough we are all going to become irrelevant.
Well, Head of Incubation Underwriting at Beazley and Co-chair of the Lloyd’s Product Launchpad George Beattie is both inspiring and eloquent and listening to him should make you feel a bit more positive about the industry’s long-term prospects.
The structures he is part of both within and outside his own organisation have been designed to make innovation easier by very deliberately removing the disincentives that currently exist for it to happen.
After all, who wants to risk their bonus on a new idea that by definition doesn’t come with years of claims data or actuarially-approved pricing models attached to it?
It turns out the problem is absolutely not a lack of original ideas and far more a lack of time and resource to do all the best ones justice.
Listen on for a fascinating and uplifting episode.
NOTES and LINKS:
I refer to the Episode with Relm Insurance. That’s Episode 113
Lloyd’s Product Launchpad
The IVF venture with Gaia is also backed by Chaucer
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo

Mar 22, 2022 • 41min
Ep 116 James Kent Global CEO Gallagher Re: A broker run by brokers
Today’s guest is a major reinsurance broking CEO at the top of his game.
A quarter has passed since the completion of the purchase of Willis Re by Gallagher and the integration of the 3rd largest reinsurance broker in the world into Gallagher Re.
Global CEO James Kent is clearly buzzing with energy and enthusiasm for the job in hand and the prospects that new ownership and investment are going to open up for his business.
In this podcast we talk about how Willis Re managed to hold itself together during the interminable Aon-Willis merger saga, the state of the reinsurance market and the new business’s ambitious growth plans.
I have known James for many years and think this encounter is a great snapshot of a team leader who has come through a trial and is absolutely delighted to be out on the other side and very much looking forward to the future.
NOTES:
A couple of abbreviations. KRW is of course the infamous trio of 2005 Hurricanes, Katrina, Rita and Wilma. UNL is Ultimate Net Loss and in this context is a synonym for an indemnity-type contract as opposed to a parametrically-triggered one.
LINKS:
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/

Mar 15, 2022 • 33min
Ep 115 How Parametric will fix Commerial Insurance: Descartes Underwriting
Parametric insurance has been with us for quite a while now, so it is an idea that most of us have become familiar with.
We can all see its advantages, particularly when it comes to almost instantaneous claims payments with practically zero adjustment cost.
But until recently it has been a hyper specialist corner of the market, often restricted to very large very high value contracts such as cat bonds.
This is because it is only now that the cost of technology has come down significantly enough and the availability of accurate information sources has become wide enough to make these often bespoke products relevant at the commercial lines, and even personal lines, levels.
There are lots of small specialist parametric players out there but today’s guests have seen this opportunity and really grabbed it with both hands.
Tanguy Touffut, CEO and co-founder and Violaine Raybaud, Head of business development at parametric specialist MGA Descartes Underwriting don’t do anything by half measures and the business comes fresh from an eye-popping $120mn fund raise.
But that $120mn is not for capital to underwrite with – it is for an enormous investment in people, technology and global locations.
And that’s why I asked them to come on the show. Because for an investment of this size to work, the opportunity will have to be of the once-in-a-lifetime sort.
Tanguy and Violaine clearly believe so and it is great to hear such passion about the prospects for application of parametric solutions in a vast global market like commercial lines.
LINKS:
Here is the link to the $120mn funding announcement that I mentioned:
https://www.descartesunderwriting.com/descartes-underwriting-raises-120-million-to-become-a-category-leader-in-corporate-insurance-worldwide/
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank Claims Direct Access (CDA) for their support today:
https://www.claimsdirectaccess.com/

Mar 8, 2022 • 31min
Ep 114 Richard Leftley MIC Global: Where Microinsurance and the Gig Economy meet
Today’s guest is a true pioneer in insurance and also in insurtech.
In fact Richard Leftley, Executive Vice President of MIC Global has had about fifteen years head start on many of the other others in that game.
As a trailblazer in microinsurance in the developing world, where premiums per customer can often be measured in $single digits, Richard learned right away that without a digital-first approach you are going to get swamped by the expense ratio and you won’t have a viable product.
As technology and robust data sources have advanced so the microinsurance opportunity is finally coming into its own.
But what’s particularly exciting is that it turns out the hard operational lessons learned from that tech first, very high volume, low individual premium microinsurance experience are transferable to the high-growth emerging embedded insurance applications in the gig economies of today’s most developed countries.
And now that MIC Global has been given in-principle approval for a syndicate in a box at Lloyd’s it seems poised to benefit from strong growth in both of these incredibly different worlds.
Richard is passionate and eloquent and really knows his business inside and out. There is a lot you can learn from him and I can highly recommend a listen today.
LINKS:
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank Claims Direct Access (CDA) for their support today:
https://www.claimsdirectaccess.com/

Mar 1, 2022 • 37min
Ep 113 How to Build a Crypto Insurer from scratch: Joe Ziolkowski CEO of Relm Insurance
Sometimes you just have to give credit where credit is due.
Most of the guests on The Voice of Insurance are long-term CEOs of large companies. They are all major players in the market and I don’t need any special reason to talk to them.
But today’s guest is on the show, not because he runs a market-moving global insurance business, but because I think he has done something completely out of the ordinary that deserves closer attention.
Relm is a remarkable business because it has responded to a moment of disfunction by creating something entirely new.
Seeing a total absence of insurance industry response to the emerging Cryptocurrency phenomenon Joe Ziolkowski, Relm’s co founder and CEO has built the first Crypto insurer with a licence from a recognised international jurisdiction and an A rating.
The result is that Relm is a business that can underwrite in Cryptocurrency limits, pay claims and crucially hold assets in Crypto on its own solvent, rated and regulated balance sheet.
I doubt that Relm will be the last of the native Crypto insurers, but the story of what Joe has achieved so far is a fascinating one.
And it’s not just Crypto – this business’s culture seems to be to seek out genuinely uncharted areas of opportunity. For this reason insurance for the nascent cannabis and psychedelic sectors are also areas of focus.
You don’t need to understand all the ins and outs of these markets to see that there is enormous unmet demand for insurance in these fast-growing new verticals
For that reason I would highly recommend a listen.
LINKS:
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank Claims Direct Access (CDA) for their support today:
https://www.claimsdirectaccess.com/

Feb 22, 2022 • 39min
Ep 112 Alastair Swift WTW: We can grow exponentially in Specialty
Today’s guest is a broking veteran known across the London Market and beyond.
Alastair Swift is Head of Corporate Risk and Broking for Global Lines of Business at WTW as well as CEO of Willis Limited.
Recently new WTW CEO Carl Hess has spoken about his desire for the group to get some of its swagger back and I think this interview could mark the beginning of that process for the firm.
Following the damaging twists and turns of the Aon merger saga of the past two years and the eventual sale of Willis Re to Gallagher, it was refreshing to hear someone senior at the newly rebranded WTW come out fighting and start focusing on the future at the global broker and advisor.
Alastair didn’t duck any of my questions, in fact quite the opposite.
I know every podcast introduction says that what follows is must-listen stuff
but this really is a must-listen episode!
LINKS:
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank Claims Direct Access (CDA) for their support today:
https://www.claimsdirectaccess.com/

Feb 15, 2022 • 23min
Ep 111 Rinku Patel CEO Pine Walk Capital: helping underwriters be in their last job
Today’s guest is one of the people behind the scenes who help make the insurance market tick.
With a background in finance and operations, he has made a career of helping businesses become successful and stay successful, but hasn’t necessarily taken much of the credit for doing so.
Now that Rinku Patel is a CEO – running London-based MGA platform Pine Walk Capital, his profile is considerably higher.
But the nature of the business that Pine Walk is in continues to put others in the limelight because the purpose of this firm is to free up underwriters to do what they do best.
And that’s why I am really glad to be able to put him in the spotlight today.
The MGA space is a fascinating corner of the market at the moment and Pine Walk is at the heart of a movement to professionalise all aspects of this segment.
Rinku is the embodiment of a no-nonsense leader and this interview clarifies the vision and purpose of Pine Walk and the nature of its relationship with its parent Fidelis beyond doubt. Rinku is straight-talking and always comes immediately to the point in hand.
If dealings with him in his day job are anything like as direct and effective as in this interview, I can highly recommend engaging with him.
LINKS:
We thank our naming sponsor AdvantageGo - enabling an enterprise view of exposure:
https://www.advantagego.com/
We also thank Claims Direct Access (CDA) for their support today:
https://www.claimsdirectaccess.com/


