
Mixed Signals from Semafor Media
Every Friday media reporter Max Tani and Semafor Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith pull back the curtain on the most important stories about media, revealing why you see and hear what you see and hear.Mixed Signals from Semafor Media is supported by Think with Google.
Latest episodes

Jun 13, 2025 • 45min
Professional optimist Cleo Abram on tech’s bright future
Cleo Abram, a YouTube host and tech journalist known for her optimistic show 'Huge If True,' shares her unique perspective on technology in a world often filled with skepticism. She discusses her journey from Vox to YouTube, where she's attracted nearly 6 million subscribers by making complex science accessible. Cleo recounts her wild experience of getting space-sick in zero gravity and explains how she engages with tech giants like Mark Zuckerberg. The conversation highlights the importance of optimism in tech journalism amid prevailing pessimism.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 28min
The Great Rebundling — With Peter Kafka and Brian Morrissey
Brian Morrissey, creator of The Rebooting and former Digiday editor, joins Peter Kafka, Chief Correspondent at Business Insider, for a deep dive into the media landscape. They tackle the future of media bundles and the pervasive trend of subscription fatigue. Streaming services face a battle to retain viewers as nostalgia for cable wanes. The duo also critiques Substack's business model, pondering its viability as a platform. Insights on the loneliness of independent journalism versus institutional support round out their compelling conversation.

Jun 6, 2025 • 35min
Top Chef’s Tom Colicchio and Gail Simmons on how food ate media
Gail Simmons, a longtime judge on Top Chef and former food journalist at Food & Wine, teams up with Tom Colicchio, chef and restaurateur, to discuss the show's profound impact on food media and culture. They reveal how Top Chef has influenced the restaurant industry and shifted perceptions of culinary standards over the years. The duo also shares their thoughts on the nicer tone of the show, critiques of social media food trends, and the evolving landscape of culinary competition television in today's content-driven world.

May 30, 2025 • 34min
Adam Friedland on comedy, TV, and whether he’s the Joe Rogan of the left
Adam Friedland, a comedian and host of The Adam Friedland Show, discusses his unique take on comedy influenced by a 1960s talk show format. He shares why he believes podcasts might be getting dumber and whether he's the 'Joe Rogan of the left.' The conversation dives into the impact of smartphones on social behavior, how Trump helped legitimize podcasting, and an amusing encounter with Swifties. Friedland's approach fosters open dialogue, pushing back against cancel culture and exploring the evolution of media in today's digital age.

May 23, 2025 • 40min
Christiane Amanpour and Jamie Rubin on explaining the world — and podcasting with your ex
Christiane Amanpour, a renowned CNN anchor and foreign correspondent, teams up with her ex-husband Jamie Rubin, a former senior State Department official, to dive into the media landscape's evolution. They discuss their unique journey into podcasting, the critical role of foreign correspondents in today's conflicts, and the challenges of battling misinformation. Christiane shares insights on the relevance of journalism, while Jamie reflects on his efforts against Russian propaganda. Together, they explore how their personal and professional histories intertwine in shaping global narratives.

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May 16, 2025 • 54min
'Substack isn’t cool,' gatekeepers are, and other strong opinions from tastemaker Chris Black
Chris Black, co-host of the How Long Gone podcast and style consultant for brands like J. Crew, shares his journey from managing a pop-punk band to a fashion tastemaker. He discusses the surprising resurrection of media gatekeepers in 2025 and expresses his belief in traditional institutions despite the rise of influencers. Black also critiques Substack fatigue and how the podcasting landscape has evolved, emphasizing the importance of authentic connections over mere analytics in content creation.

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May 9, 2025 • 58min
Clay Travis on mixing sports and politics, his ‘pudding strike,’ and the billion-dollar bet on sports gambling
Clay Travis, founder of OutKick and a conservative voice in sports media, dives into his journey from a ‘pudding strike’ to navigating sports and politics. He discusses the rising intertwine of gambling with sports culture, revealing how this impacts audience engagement. The conversation covers the NBA's declining ratings influenced by social justice movements and the challenges of maintaining relevance in today’s media landscape. Travis also shares insights on building a male audience and his direct interviews with Trump.

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May 2, 2025 • 44min
Jen Psaki on her journey from politics to cable, what the Trump White House is doing right — and whether there was a Biden cover-up
Jen Psaki, former White House Press Secretary and current MSNBC host, discusses her journey into cable news and the evolving landscape of political communication. She shares insights on how Trump’s strategies have influenced media dynamics and reflects on the administration's press tactics. The conversation also touches on the potential cover-up regarding Biden's health and the challenges of navigating public perception in a fragmented media environment. Psaki emphasizes the importance of transparency and modernizing political dialogues.

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Apr 25, 2025 • 49min
Ezra Klein on Trump, Sanity, and Podcasting
Ezra Klein, a New York Times columnist and podcast host, shares his insights on media and political discourse. He discusses how his recent book tour has influenced his views on the evolving landscape of podcasting, particularly regarding the impact on traditional media. Klein reflects on the challenges posed by figures like Trump, and the dual nature of media as both a coverage tool and a target. He also highlights the shift toward podcasts among liberal audiences and the potential for these platforms to foster deeper, more meaningful conversations.

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Apr 18, 2025 • 48min
Zeitgeist Genius Tina Brown on Meghan Markle, Vanity Fair and Whether We Still Need Editors
Tina Brown, the former editor of Vanity Fair and The New Yorker, now authors the Substack 'Fresh Hell'. She dives into the evolution of magazine editing and critiques the current chaotic media culture. Brown expresses her opinions on the necessity of editors in today’s influencer-driven world. She shares thoughts on Meghan Markle’s public persona and the state of journalism, lamenting the decline of in-depth reporting. The conversation also explores how digital platforms like Substack are reshaping storytelling while addressing the challenges of modern media.