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Ezra Klein, a New York Times columnist and podcast host, shares his insights on media and political discourse. He discusses how his recent book tour has influenced his views on the evolving landscape of podcasting, particularly regarding the impact on traditional media. Klein reflects on the challenges posed by figures like Trump, and the dual nature of media as both a coverage tool and a target. He also highlights the shift toward podcasts among liberal audiences and the potential for these platforms to foster deeper, more meaningful conversations.

Tina Brown, the former editor of Vanity Fair and The New Yorker, now authors the Substack 'Fresh Hell'. She dives into the evolution of magazine editing and critiques the current chaotic media culture. Brown expresses her opinions on the necessity of editors in today’s influencer-driven world. She shares thoughts on Meghan Markle’s public persona and the state of journalism, lamenting the decline of in-depth reporting. The conversation also explores how digital platforms like Substack are reshaping storytelling while addressing the challenges of modern media.

Jason Y. Lee, Founder and CEO of Jubilee Media, discusses his innovative YouTube platform known for its engaging debates on polarizing issues. He shares insights on how their format fosters 'radical empathy,' encouraging understanding of diverse viewpoints. The conversation touches on the impact of their viral debates on societal divisions, including the censorship by the Biden White House. Lee emphasizes the importance of discomfort in growth and explores strategies for brands to authentically engage with the creator economy.

In this lively discussion, Piers Morgan, a prominent TV star known for his work in British tabloids and on CNN, shares his journey to building an independent brand on YouTube. He reflects on the media landscape's evolution and the importance of having fun in journalism. Morgan also dives into the heated debate surrounding Meghan Markle and the royal family, emphasizing free speech. With his candid views on current events, including Trump, he illustrates the challenges and motivations behind moving away from traditional media.

Nick Denton, the founder of Gawker Media, makes a surprising return to the digital world after years of silence following his legal battles. He candidly discusses his new AI venture in journalism and critiques modern media practices. Denton shares his thoughts on the influence of tech moguls, particularly Elon Musk, and his investment strategies, including being short on Tesla while expressing optimism about China. He reminisces about Gawker's legacy and reflects on the shifting dynamics of media in today's fragmented landscape.

Neal Mohan, the CEO of YouTube, dives into the platform's explosive growth and its evolving role in media. He reveals how YouTube now attracts a staggering 1 billion monthly podcast viewers and discusses its competitive landscape against rivals like TikTok. Mohan addresses content moderation challenges, especially regarding misinformation and regulatory issues. He also shares tips for creators on building successful YouTube channels, emphasizing authenticity and audience engagement in the ever-changing digital environment.

Frank Cooper, a trailblazing marketing executive with experience at Def Jam, AOL, and PepsiCo, dives into the complexities of reaching mass audiences amidst media fragmentation. He shares insights on the evolution of hip-hop and how Snoop Dogg became a marketing genius. The conversation touches on the synergy between culture and commerce, the shift in influencer marketing towards authenticity, and the unifying power of sports. With captivating anecdotes from his career, Cooper highlights the importance of emotional connections in contemporary marketing.

In this insightful conversation, Nayeema Raza, a former co-host and now an independent creator with her show "Smart Girl Dumb Questions," shares her experiences in the evolving media landscape. She highlights the challenges and benefits of independence in content creation. Joining her is Hamish McKenzie, co-founder of Substack, who discusses the platform's journey, its appeal for progressive voices, and their decision to decline an acquisition by Elon Musk. Together, they dissect the balance between writing and video content in a competitive creator economy.

Today, we have a special bonus episode: Ben and Max break down the most interesting moments from the Innovating to Restore Trust in News summit held last week in Washington, D.C. They discuss Gallup’s findings on the worsening trust in news media, New York Times executive editor Joe Kahn’s acknowledgment that Donald Trump is good for business, and FCC chair Brendan Carr’s plans to go after liberal media. Plus, Ben responds to Megyn Kelly’s take on what she called a “tense interview.” Is this the start of a heated podcast feud? Maybe, if it helps our ratings.Sign up for Semafor Media’s Sunday newsletter: https://www.semafor.com/newsletters/media Find us on X: @semaforben, @maxwelltaniIf you have a tip or a comment, please email us mixedsignals@semafor.com

The 97th Academy Awards are this weekend, giving us a glimpse into the past and future of Hollywood and the entertainment industry. For an insider’s take on the state of the business and how the Academy works, Ben and Max bring on Matt Belloni, founding partner of Puck and host of The Town podcast. They talk about Netflix’s Oscars strategy with Emilia Pérez, the disconnect between the Academy’s interests and what happens on stage, and why the Oscars still matter in 2025. They also discuss if Hollywood will take a rightward turn with the culture, Matt’s own career from behind the scenes at the Hollywood Reporter to now being recognized for his voice, and his predictions for this weekend’s awards.Sign up for Semafor Media’s Sunday newsletter: https://www.semafor.com/newsletters/media Find us on X: @semaforben, @maxwelltaniIf you have a tip or a comment, please email us mixedsignals@semafor.com