Love to See It with Emma and Claire

We’re talking about our favorite super sexy, super prudish, super anti-hot-vax-summer Netflix reality show, Too Hot to Handle! Season 2 has finally dropped, and today we’re sinking our teeth into the juicy first four episodes. Joining us like a hyena sharing some of the lion’s meat (as Cam would say), is Daryn Carp, host of PeopleTV’s Reality Check, Scissoring Isn’t A Thing and Shaken And Disturbed. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a true crime podcast about a man with a dark secret… a man who was open to the possibility of one day becoming Bachelor. The darkest, dirtiest deed imaginable. This week, the investigation of Thomas’s crimes culminates in a dramatic show trial. This whole episode is one group date and a rose ceremony nested amid hours of angst over Thomas and a suitor’s return. Even if it felt like a lot of filler, that didn’t stop us from having over 12 pages of notes to discuss between just the two of us! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When in the course of Bachelor events it becomes necessary for a former Bachelorette to dissolve the bonds that tie her to the franchise and write a piercing, heart-wrenching essay about the racism she experienced during her time being affiliated with the show... we must talk about it, with help from HuffPost's senior national editor Erin Evans. Read Rachel Lindsay's full piece here: https://www.vulture.com/article/rachel-lindsay-the-bachelor-franchise.html To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trigger warning: In this episode, we talk about sexual assault in the context of Katie’s discussion of it in this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. This discussion starts around 40:00. If you or someone you know have been affected by sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline is here 24/7 with free, anonymous help. Call 800-656-HOPE or visit online.rainn.org. Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about labor organizing in the entertainment industry. It’s so difficult to unionize the Bachelorette contestants because of high turnover and the fact that they aren’t technically employees, but solidarity finds a way. Last night, not for the first time and hopefully not for the last, the show’s contestants tried to come together as one unit to meet management at the bargaining table. It was a beautiful moment for unions, but also a brief one. Today we will chart the rise and fall of this Bachelorette union, which quickly fell apart once the men were made aware that they couldn’t negotiate to each have a full Katie. We’re joined today by Bachelor alum, blogger, and opera singer Sharleen Joynt and her husband and cohost of their fantastic podcast, Dear Shandy, Andy Levine! You can listen to Dear Shandy here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-shandy/id1525795747 Learn more about the Santa Ana Pueblo and their lands here: https://nativeamerica.travel/tribes/pueblo-of-santa-ana and https://santaana-nsn.gov/about/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about Western-themed erotic cinema. This week, we’re examining a modern classic: season 17, episode 2 of The Bachelorette. Katie’s search for a lover begins in earnest this week, and she’s ready to lasso herself a muddy cowboy with purple fluffy handcuffs. This episode was very sex-positive, very cowboy-positive, and of course, very dramatic. To dig through this week’s recap with us, we’re joined by longtime friend of the pod, Bachelorette alum and attorney Michael Garofola. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s that time of year. 82% humidity in the 90-degree air, hordes of shrieking cicadas roaming the Eastern Seaboard, the dawning realization that you waited too long to reinstall your window AC unit — and, of course, the return of The Bachelorette. Now with 100% less Chris Harrison and 100% more forced references to sex toys! That’s right, Katie Thurston’s season premiere, baby. We’re here to dig into it with our wonderful guest, Molly Bernard! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After over half a decade podcasting about The Bachelor as Here to Make Friends, we have a new home and a new name! We’re extremely happy to be here at Stitcher, and to be launching Love to See It, a weekly podcast about The Bachelor and beyond. You may be wondering, what is this show going to be? We hope it will be a space for the same kind of free flowing commentary, snark and analysis about The Bachelor that we’ve always done, a space where we can chat with our favorite comedians, podcasters, critics, and Bachelor alums about all the minutiae of each episode. And to kick it off, we introduce you to the cast of Katie’s season! We’d love to hear from you about what you’d like to hear more of on the show! You can reach us at claireandemmapod@gmail.com. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re going to begin this week’s podcast with a discussion on Taylor Nolan’s old tweets that resurfaced over the weekend and what accountability, consequence and empathy look like within the community of The Bachelor franchise. The tweets, which included hateful language toward a plethora of communities, were shocking, harmful, hurtful, triggering and absolutely indefensible. Later in the episode, we discuss the Women Tell All special with style icon and contestant on this season of The Bachelor, Chelsea Vaughn. Our Calls to Action this week: Stop AAPI Hate, an organization which includes a hate crime tracker, founded in the wake of rising and alarming violence toward Asian Americans during the COVID-19 pandemic https://donate.givedirect.org/?cid=14711 The Asian American Federation, which specifically helps fight racism and for equality for NYC’s Asian community https://www.classy.org/give/253719/#!/donation/checkout Center for Disability Rights, a not-for-profit, community-based advocacy and service organization for people with all types of disabilities. https://cdrnys.org/donate/ The Disability Justice Culture Club, a collective of disabled and/or neurodivergent queer people of color operating out of East Oakland. https://bit.ly/3hONYqp The Trevor Project, which provides resources, support and a crisis hotline for LGBTQ+ youth. https://give.thetrevorproject.org/give/63307/#!/donation/checkout?c_src=EOY20&c_src2=headerdonatebutton  The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, a non-profit, all volunteer, fat-rights organization dedicated to protecting the rights and improving the quality of life for fat people. https://naafa.org/joindonate Jews For Racial and Economic Justice, a NYC-based progressive Jewish organization that fights against anti-Semitism alongside other marginalized communities. https://secure.everyaction.com/MItl2aYLe0-_DmwDEiGULA2 The Auschwitz-Birkenau memorial and museum, http://auschwitz.org/en/donate/ The Native American Rights Fund, which provides legal assistance to Indian tribes, organizations, and individuals nationwide who might otherwise have gone without adequate representation. https://secure.narf.org/page/71129/donate/1?_ga=2.154578488.1462526717.1614619917-1113695369.1614619917 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

SPOILERS ALERT We will be discussing reporting that includes spoilers. Please be warned. Skip forward to approximately 16:00 to get to the spoiler-free recap. Joining us to discuss our reporting on Matt James’ statement from last night is HuffPost Senior Enterprise Editor Erin Evans. Read our piece: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-james-the-bachelor-race-problem_n_60342be7c5b67c32961fef84?7jk It’s hometowns week on The Bachelor, and you know what they say: home is in Nemacolin, where you all live forever now. And so do your families! It’s like Noah’s ark -- each woman gets to save 2-3 loved ones from the pandemic. Just like Tayshia, Matt doesn’t get to actually travel to his ladies’ hometowns, but he does get to meet some parents this week. Here to discuss all the moms and all the sisters, we’re joined by Caroline Moss, host of the podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s been a hell of a week, and before we recap the episode, we need to discuss what’s been going on offscreen. For that discussion and our normal episode recap, we’re joined by the amazing comedian, author, podcaster, producer Phoebe Robinson and her wonderful boyfriend, British Baekoff. You can read our coverage of Chris Harrison, his remarks and the push to hold the franchise accountable here: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-harrison-interview-the-bachelor-rachael-kirkconnell_n_602437e6c5b6ddb3581568ab https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-bachelor-chris-harrison-racial-reckoning_n_602aaee2c5b6d667582eb47e See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices