

Worship Online Podcast
Worship Online
Worship leaders, you need a source of high-quality, engaging content that get's right to the point. With over 150,000 leaders and musicians trained through our online platform, we're on the front lines of what worship leaders need right now.
The Worship Online podcast exists to empower, equip, and journey with worship leaders as we discuss worship and the heart behind it. In these weekly episodes, you'll discover new ideas, tips, and practical guidance to encourage you and your team to be the best.
The Worship Online podcast exists to empower, equip, and journey with worship leaders as we discuss worship and the heart behind it. In these weekly episodes, you'll discover new ideas, tips, and practical guidance to encourage you and your team to be the best.
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Sep 4, 2025 • 28min
Paul & Hannah McClure: Is Your Passion Leading You to Burnout?
Ever feel like you're juggling a million things as a worship leader and wondering how to make it all sustainable? Paul & Hannah McClure share their journey of leading worship at Bethel for eight years while balancing touring, family, and team leadership. They get real about the moment Paul stepped down—not from burnout, but from wisdom. Paul unpacks how they shifted from trying to be the answer for everyone to building a pastoral care system that actually works, and why "ministry is a marathon, not a sprint" changed everything. Here's what they learned: Passionate leaders don't have to choose between impact and longevity. The best leaders create systems that multiply their influence while protecting what matters most. Ready to build a ministry that thrives for decades? This conversation is packed with practical wisdom for the long haul. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Paul & Hannah’s New Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Aug 28, 2025 • 38min
Bryan & Katie Torwalt: "Is Your Talent the Reason You Aren’t Disciplined?"
Bryan and Katie Torwalt get vulnerable about the tension between natural gifting and discipline, sharing how easy it is to coast on talent instead of truly stewarding what God has given us. This honest conversation explores the difference between feeling productive and being fruitful, and how discipline in unexpected areas can transform your creativity and ministry. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Bryan & Katie Torwalt’s New Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Aug 21, 2025 • 25min
When Leaders Only Value Your Gift (How to Change What You Believe) w/ Christy Nockels
Ever feel like you’re more valued for what you do than who you are? Like you’re just a commodity in your local church? You’re not alone. And honestly—that experience can be incredibly disheartening. Sure, we’d love for leaders to change, but that’s not always realistic. Sometimes the responsibility is on us. In this conversation, Christy Nockels shares the identity shift that transformed her ministry from burnout to breakthrough. She unpacks: The “beautiful order” she was getting wrong that led to exhaustion What led her to feel like a commodity instead of a carrier of God’s presence What it means to be a modern Levite in today’s church Here’s the truth: If the primary message you’re hearing is “your value is your gifting,” that’s what you’ll believe. The question is—what are you doing to change that? Ready to change the soundtrack? This conversation is all about exactly that. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Christy’s New Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Aug 14, 2025 • 41min
Brooke Ligertwood: The Secret to Building Worship Sets that Deeply Impact People [RE-RELEASE]
What if the way you structure your worship sets could actually shape how people relate to God? In this powerful conversation, Brooke Ligertwood reveals the biblical framework she uses for every worship set—whether she's leading at a massive conference or in a tent with a modest sound system. You'll discover: The 5-part worship arc that creates "access points" for every person in your congregation Why songs of "high praise" are more transformative than experience-focused songs How to pick songs based on your team's actual skill level (not just what sounds good) The difference between leading from personal experience vs. serving what God is doing in your community Whether you're leading in a cathedral or a coffee shop, this episode will transform how you approach worship leading and setlist creation. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Brooke’s Newest Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Aug 7, 2025 • 22min
The Greatest Worship Leaders Aren't Always the Most Talented (Here's What They Do Instead) w/ Dan Dean
In this engaging conversation, Dan Dean, a member of the renowned gospel group Phillips, Craig & Dean and a former lead pastor, shares transformative insights from his 50 years in ministry. He challenges the notion that talent alone defines a great worship leader, emphasizing the importance of empowering others. Dan reveals strategies for spotting hidden talent, the genius of leading by example, and the pitfalls of ‘doing it all yourself.’ His approach to nurturing creativity and humility not only strengthens teams but redefines effective worship leadership.

Jul 31, 2025 • 31min
What Happens When You Actually Follow God's Prompting (The Heritage's Unlikely Story)
Ever felt that nudge to reach out to someone, share something, or take a step that seemed a little crazy? Most of us ignore those promptings. But what if you didn't? In this episode, we sit down with The Heritage—a worship team from a small South Carolina church whose obedience to a simple prompting changed everything. From writing songs in their church basement to getting a text from Chris Tomlin, their story will challenge how you think about divine timing, faithfulness, and what God can do through ordinary obedience. You'll hear about: The dog breeder who wouldn't take no for an answer Why sometimes your lowest moments are when breakthrough comes How staying connected to your local church opened doors they never imagined What it's like navigating sudden opportunities while staying grounded If you've ever wondered whether that prompting you feel is worth following, this conversation will give you the courage to say yes—even when you can't see the outcome. Listen now and discover what's possible when you stop second-guessing and start stepping out. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode The Heritage’s New Album --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Jul 24, 2025 • 21min
How Family Crisis Made Me a Better Worship Leader w/ Jon Reddick
What if the hardest season of your life was actually preparing you to lead at a level you didn't know was in you? In this vulnerable conversation, Jon opens up about the "fear chatter" that had been stealing his mental space, why he started removing people from his inner circle, and how walking through crisis taught him what authentic care actually looks like. You'll hear his simple but game-changing filter for every worship moment, and why leading through your own brokenness might be the key to reaching others in theirs. If you've ever wondered how to lead with genuine depth instead of surface-level enthusiasm, this conversation will shift how you think about leadership, vulnerability, and what it means to truly serve the room you're called to lead. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Jon Reddick’s Recent Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Jul 17, 2025 • 38min
From Church Drummer to Arena Tours: What I Wish Every Worship Drummer Knew w/ Daniel Jones
What does it really take to grow from playing in the local church to touring arenas with some of the biggest names in Christian music? Daniel Jones has walked that exact journey. Over the past 10 years, he's played drums for For King & Country, Brooke Ligertwood, Rend Collective, David Leonard, JUDAH., and Andrew Ripp. In this conversation, Daniel gets brutally honest about the lessons he learned the hard way - from dealing with the pressure of arena stages to discovering what consistency really means, from learning to trust his teammates to finding the balance between confidence and ego. If you've ever felt like you're not ready for the next level, or struggled with self-doubt about your playing, this episode will give you the roadmap Daniel wishes he'd had starting out. What You'll Learn: Why "you don't walk into a role ready to go - you gotta grow in it" The difference between playing in church vs. playing arenas (and what it taught him about consistency) How to identify what you need to work on without destroying your confidence in the process Whether you're playing in a church or dreaming of bigger stages, Daniel's journey will show you exactly what to focus on and how to grow in your craft without losing yourself in the process. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Daniel Jones’ IG --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Jul 3, 2025 • 26min
The 3 Things That Happen Before Every Great Move of God w/ Alexander Pappas
What if the thing holding your team back from revival… isn't lack of prayer, but trying to manufacture the moment instead of stewarding it? Alexander Pappas ('A Great Awakening,' and formerly Hillsong Young & Free) went on a year-long journey studying revival history, and the insights he gained completely shifted his perspective on what it takes for God to move. We dive into: The one thing everyone thinks they have, but are often missing—ESPECIALLY worship team members The 3 pillars present before every great documented move of God Why focusing on chasing "holy moments" blocks revival If you're tired of praying for breakthrough while staying stuck in the same patterns, this conversation will challenge you in the best way. The awakening you're praying for might be closer than you think—it just doesn't look like what you expected. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Alexander Pappas’ New Releases --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.

Jun 26, 2025 • 26min
Matt Crocker's 4 Secrets to Writing Powerful Worship Songs
What if the secret to writing songs that connect isn't thinking bigger, but thinking smaller? Matt Crocker, the songwriter behind "Oceans," "This I Believe," and "I Surrender" (streamed over 2 billion times), reveals his counterintuitive approach to worship songwriting—and why his biggest breakthrough came from writing for just 50 people instead of 50,000. Matt shares the 4 essential elements that transformed his songwriting. This conversation will challenge how you think about songwriting and give you a clear path forward, no matter who you are writing for. Perfect for: Worship leaders, songwriters, and anyone wanting to write songs that genuinely connect people to God's heart. Worship Online is your new secret weapon for preparing each week. With detailed song tutorials and resources, you and your team will save hours every single week, and remove the stress from preparing for a set. Try a free trial at WorshipOnline.com and see the transformation! Mentioned in the Episode Matt’s New Release --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com. We want to know how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don’t forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at WorshipOnline.com! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN.