
Cables2Clouds
Join Chris and Tim as they delve into the Cloud Networking world! The goal of this podcast is to help Network Engineers with their Cloud journey. Follow us on Twitter @Cables2Clouds | Co-Hosts Twitter Handles: Chris - @bgp_mane | Tim - @juangolbez
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May 7, 2025 • 26min
Has AI Gone Phishing? - NC2C035
Send us a textThe relentless race for cloud dominance continues as AWS reports 16.9% growth year-over-year—a number that would thrill most companies but falls short of expectations for the cloud giant. Tim and Chris dig into what's behind these numbers and why Microsoft and Google continue gaining ground with stronger-than-anticipated growth rates. Microsoft's massive 53% increase in capital spending signals their aggressive push into AI infrastructure, raising questions about whether AWS can maintain its leadership position.Cybersecurity threats are evolving in concerning ways according to Threat Labs' 2025 Phishing Report. While overall phishing attempts have declined, attacks have become more targeted and sophisticated. The hosts explore disturbing trends including the rise of cryptocurrency scams with fake wallets and an increase in job-related phishing that exploits today's challenging employment market. Most alarming is how threat actors are capitalizing on AI hype, creating fraudulent agent websites that mimic legitimate platforms to steal credentials. This exposes a critical vulnerability in emerging technologies like Multi-agent Collaboration Protocol systems that currently lack robust security frameworks.The conversation shifts to more positive developments with Kubernetes 1.33 "Octarine" release, which brings sidecar containers to stable status—a significant improvement for managing service mesh implementations. The hosts break down how this and other updates like in-place resource resizing make Kubernetes more flexible and easier to manage for enterprise deployments.The episode closes with a somber discussion of Intel's announcement of potential layoffs affecting up to 20% of its workforce following substantial quarterly losses. Tim and Chris challenge the new CEO's assertion that requiring more office days will make the company "lean, fast and agile," questioning whether return-to-office mandates have more to do with real estate investments than actual productivity improvements.What tech news matters most to you? We'd love your feedback on our news format and what topics you'd like us to cover in future episodes!Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Apr 30, 2025 • 49min
From Corporate Life to Freelance Freedom
Send us a textScott Robohn's journey from corporate network engineer to successful independent consultant offers a roadmap for anyone considering the entrepreneurial path in tech. After 35 years in the networking industry, Scott found himself ready to build something of his own—not necessarily a product, but an enterprise he could be fully responsible for.The transition wasn't without careful consideration. Scott spent a full year planning his exit, having extensive conversations with his wife and financial advisor to ensure he had sufficient runway (approximately three years) if things didn't go as planned. This preparation phase wasn't just about the numbers; it was about creating psychological safety and family buy-in for what would be a significant life change.What stands out most in Scott's experience is how he navigated the unexpected challenges of independence. On just his second day of self-employment, he had the jarring realization that he was no longer part of a team—something that had been constant throughout his career. This led him to intentionally create new communities through co-founding the Network Automation Forum and engaging with local networking user groups, demonstrating that entrepreneurship doesn't have to mean isolation.Finding clients represents perhaps the biggest practical hurdle for new consultants. Scott shares how his initial work came through his existing network, with LinkedIn playing a surprisingly crucial role in business development. As his practice evolved, he discovered an unexpected passion for certain specialty areas, including his Total Network Operations approach, which examines how network operations teams need to reorganize for modern networks and tooling.For those contemplating their own leap, Scott offers candid advice about the realities of American entrepreneurship—including the significant hurdle of healthcare costs—while providing encouragement that with proper planning, the transition can lead to greater fulfillment. As his wife observed at his one-year anniversary: "I've seen you work this hard before, but always accompanied with stress. Now I see you working this hard and I don't see the stress."Ready to explore entrepreneurship in tech? Join Scott at the Network Automation Forum events in Prague (May 2025) or in the US (November 2025), and discover how you might thrive on your own terms.Connect with our guest:https://packetpushers.net/podcast/total-network-operations/https://networkautomationPurchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Apr 23, 2025 • 24min
We Nearly Became Invulnerable! (No More CVE) - NC2C034
Send us a textThe tech world gives and takes away as Google introduces CloudWAN while MITRE nearly loses CVE funding, showcasing both innovation and vulnerability in our digital infrastructure landscape. Politics increasingly intersects with technology as we examine controversial security clearance revocations alongside much-needed technical improvements in cloud networking.• Google Cloud Next introduces CloudWAN service with two use cases: high-performance data center connectivity and premium branch networking• Google's approach differs from AWS, encouraging single global VPC deployments across regions• MITRE loses funding for the CVE program, threatening the global vulnerability tracking system• CISA provides 11-month bridge funding, but fragmentation begins as EU launches alternative vulnerability tracking• Azure announces general availability of route maps for Virtual WAN, bringing traditional networking capabilities to cloud• Former CISA director Chris Krebs targeted in federal investigation for debunking 2020 election fraud claims• Security clearance revocations increasingly used as political weapons against technology professionalsSubscribe to Cables to Clouds Fortnightly News and tell a friend about the show to stay informed about the evolving cloud technology landscape.Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Apr 16, 2025 • 38min
How To Prepare for an Interview with a Tech Giant - Part 2
Send us a textPreparing for a cloud network engineering interview at a tech giant? This episode delivers essential insights from someone who conducts these interviews. Kam Agahian, Senior Director of Cloud Engineering at Oracle, returns to continue our deep dive into what really matters when interviewing for these coveted positions.We begin by addressing listener questions about TCP/IP preparation, with Kam suggesting Wireshark packet analysis as a practical approach to master these foundational concepts. While acknowledging these topics can be dry, he emphasizes their critical importance as differentiators in the interview process.The conversation then shifts to the heart of cloud networking: connectivity between environments. Kam breaks down the two primary approaches – IPsec tunnels versus dedicated connections (like FastConnect, DirectConnect, ExpressRoute) – explaining when each makes sense and what you need to understand about them beyond simple definitions. The discussion includes encryption options, real-world implementation challenges, and how cloud service providers differ in their connectivity models.For routing, Kam explains how priorities have shifted from traditional networking interviews. While IGP protocols matter less at cloud boundaries, BGP knowledge remains crucial – but focused on practical applications rather than obscure features. "90-95% of BGP is done around a few topics – inbound and outbound traffic influence, convergence, and troubleshooting," he notes, advising candidates to understand both the "how" and "why" behind concepts like communities, attributes, and ECMP.Throughout the episode, both hosts emphasize a critical insight: cloud networking interviews aren't configuration tests. The most successful candidates demonstrate deep understanding of why technologies are appropriate for specific scenarios, how they've evolved, and the nuances of their implementation in cloud environments versus traditional networks. This thoughtful approach reveals the problem-solving abilities that tech giants value most in their cloud networking teams.Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Apr 9, 2025 • 23min
Data Center Disruption as Tariff Wars Go Brrr - NC2C033
Send us a textGeopolitics and cloud infrastructure collide in this eye-opening episode where we explore how escalating tariff wars are throwing data center construction plans into complete disarray. Tech giants planning massive cloud and AI expansions now face skyrocketing costs and unprecedented uncertainty as raw materials fall under new tariffs – creating a situation reminiscent of the COVID building materials crisis but on a vastly larger scale.Meanwhile, European cloud providers aren't sitting idle. We dive into the fascinating "Fulcrum Project," a bold initiative creating what they're calling "Trump-proof" cloud services. This ambitious federation of smaller European providers aims to redefine data sovereignty beyond just data location to who actually controls the cloud provider. With initial funding of one million euros, they're targeting SMBs who want local alternatives to hyperscalers that might be subject to foreign regulations.Security concerns dominate our discussion as we unpack Oracle's problematic handling of a significant cloud breach. Despite clear evidence from both attackers selling the stolen data and customers confirming their data was compromised, Oracle initially denied any breach occurred. This stark contrast between transparent security practices and corporate denial offers valuable lessons for organizations facing similar challenges.We also highlight a concerning surge in threat actors scanning for vulnerabilities in Juniper, Cisco, and Palo Alto network devices, with one vendor reporting 24,000 unique IP addresses attempting to access their portals within a month. Plus, we try to make sense of AWS's puzzling new Route Server offering, which resembles Azure's Route Server but fits awkwardly within AWS's existing architecture – leaving us scratching our heads about its intended use cases.Join us for these critical insights and share your thoughts on what cloud networking stories we should cover next time!Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Apr 2, 2025 • 46min
Identity Crisis: What is Cloud Networking?
Nico Vibert, Senior Staff Technical Marketing Engineer at Isovalent/Cisco, dives into the complexities of cloud networking. He discusses how vendors are often misclassified under the cloud networking label, revealing the historical origins of this term. The conversation highlights the necessity of API-driven solutions and how technologies like Kubernetes and CDNs fit into the cloud networking debate. Nico stresses the role of AI in evolving these infrastructures while addressing the need for security and reliable decision-making in the rapidly changing landscape.

Mar 26, 2025 • 25min
Wiz Goes Jerry Maguire Mode - NC2C032
Send us a textWhen tech giants make moves, the entire industry feels the tremors. Google's staggering $32 billion acquisition of cloud security company Wiz signals just how valuable security platforms have become in today's digital landscape—especially those with visibility across multiple cloud providers. With a $3.2 billion breakup fee attached, Google clearly believes regulators will ultimately approve the deal despite potential competitive concerns about accessing data from rival cloud platforms.Meanwhile, Cisco and NVIDIA are combining forces to create the "Cisco Secure AI Factory," a turnkey solution aimed at enterprises looking to deploy AI infrastructure without the complexity of building from scratch. This strategic partnership packages Cisco's networking equipment with NVIDIA's powerful AI chipsets, offering organizations a direct path to AI implementation. The question remains whether enterprises will adopt these solutions while still waiting for clear ROI from AI investments.The cloud landscape continues to evolve in unexpected ways, with HPE announcing workforce reductions despite strong revenue growth, all while battling regulatory challenges to its Juniper Networks acquisition. And as smaller cloud providers like NetEase shutter their services, organizations are reminded of the importance of multi-cloud strategies that distribute risk and enhance resilience. These developments underscore a crucial reality: in today's technology ecosystem, consolidation presents both opportunities and significant challenges for businesses relying on digital infrastructure. Are you prepared for the shifting terrain of cloud computing? Subscribe now to stay ahead of the changes reshaping our digital world.Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Mar 19, 2025 • 54min
Cloud Networking at Unicorn Scale
Send us a textThe story of cloud networking rarely gets told from the perspective of those building it inside unicorn startups, but that's exactly what this episode delivers. Richard Olson, cloud networking expert at Canva, takes us behind the scenes of building network infrastructure for one of the world's fastest-growing SaaS platforms.Richard's fascinating career journey began with literally throwing rocks with phone lines into trees during his military service, progressing through network operations centers and pre-sales engineering before landing at AWS and eventually Canva. His unique perspective bridges traditional networking expertise with cloud-native development approaches.Unlike enterprises migrating from legacy environments, Canva started entirely in the cloud with minimal networking considerations. Richard explains how this trajectory created different challenges - starting with overlapping 10.0.0.0/16 addresses across development environments and evolving to hundreds of VPCs requiring sophisticated connectivity solutions. By mid-2022, these networking challenges had grown complex enough to warrant forming a dedicated cloud networking team, which Richard helped establish.The conversation takes a deep technical turn exploring Kubernetes networking challenges that even experienced network engineers might not anticipate. Richard explains why "Kubernetes eats IP addresses for breakfast" in cloud environments, detailing the complex interaction between VPC CIDR allocations, prefix delegations, and worker node configurations that can quickly exhaust even large IP spaces. This pressure is finally creating compelling business cases for IPv6 adoption after decades of slow uptake.Whether you're managing cloud infrastructure today or planning your organization's network strategy for tomorrow, this episode offers invaluable insights into the evolution and challenges of cloud networking at unicorn scale. Listen now to understand why companies are increasingly forming dedicated cloud networking teams and the unique skill sets they require.Connect with Richard:https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-olson-auPurchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Mar 12, 2025 • 19min
Interoperability Dreams: Europe's Bold Move Against Cloud Lock-in - NC2C031
Send us a textCloud security threats continue to evolve at an alarming pace, with state-sponsored actors developing increasingly sophisticated attack strategies. We dive into the emergence of China's Silk Typhoon group, which represents the concerning evolution of previous Salt Typhoon attacks. While initially targeting service provider infrastructure, these attackers are now leveraging stolen credentials to compromise enterprise cloud accounts through password spraying and API key theft. This progression demonstrates why encryption through provider networks is essential and why organizations must remain vigilant even when threats initially appear to target only their service providers.Europe is making bold moves toward cloud standardization with the Sovereign European Cloud API (SECA) initiative. This collaborative effort between European cloud providers aims to create true interoperability across cloud platforms, potentially ending vendor lock-in for organizations operating in the EU. Drawing parallels to the USB-C standardization for mobile devices, this regulatory approach could force major cloud service providers to adapt their proprietary interfaces to maintain access to the European market. While technical challenges remain significant given the diverse service offerings across providers, the economic importance of Europe means this initiative deserves close attention as it could fundamentally change how organizations interact with cloud infrastructure globally.The Kubernetes security landscape is evolving beyond traditional cluster protection with Aviatrix's launch of its Kubernetes Cloud Firewall. Rather than competing in the crowded space of intra-cluster security, this solution addresses the often-overlooked challenge of securing egress traffic and integrations between Kubernetes workloads and legacy systems. By reading the Kubernetes API to build security policies based on native attributes like pods and namespaces, the firewall helps organizations manage the reality that few environments are purely containerized. Looking to enhance your cloud security posture across hybrid environments? Subscribe to our podcast for more insights and visit https://www.cables2clouds.com for comprehensive show notes and resources.Check out our book!https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

Mar 5, 2025 • 49min
What Can AI Agents Do For Network Automation?
Send us a textGet ready for a deep dive into the future of network engineering as we explore the interplay between automation, AI, and engineering roles. In this episode of the Cables to Cloud podcast, we're joined by Du'An Lightfoot, a seasoned expert and developer advocate at AWS. Du'An shares his journey in the tech industry, from network engineering to embracing the power of AI. As he recounts his recent experience at the Autocon conference, listen as we discuss the evolving nature of network automation and how it impacts engineering jobs.This episode aims to debunk myths about AI replacing engineers, emphasizing instead how automation can enhance productivity, allowing specialists to focus on complex tasks. Discover practical insights into utilizing AI in networking workflows, and learn about the importance of mastering APIs and Python for effective automation. Du'An's layered approach to integrating AI into networking processes provides listeners with actionable strategies to enhance their capabilities.We'll also discuss the emergence of smaller AI models and how they can serve specific roles in networking while exploring what the future holds for AI technologies in this field. Join us for an informative and inspiring discussion. If you're ready to navigate the changing landscape of network engineering, hit that subscribe button, share this episode with your peers, and leave us a review!Du'An's Network Whisperer Presentation & Code:https://d1wm3hz7ppam5u.cloudfront.net/Connect with Du'An:https://www.linkedin.com/in/duanlightfoot/Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/ Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking Newshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.comFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2cloudsMerch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj
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