
I Could Never Do That
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right."
How many times have you heard of a "dream job," an extraordinary athletic feat, or even a benevolent vocation that someone has and thought to yourself, "I Could NEVER Do That!" These people don't have superpowers, per se. These normal folks simply have a huge desire to do what it is they're doing and they ultimately have an unwavering faith that they can achieve their goals, no matter how big.
Remember, courage isn't the absence of fear. Courage is "going in" in spite of your fears. These are the stories of people who have gone in and fought hard to achieve the unthinkable in spite of the fact that, yes, sometimes they are scared and do have some insecurities. Are you ready to go in?
It's my hope that after hearing some of these interviews with thought leaders, artists, athletes, musicians and entrepreneurs that maybe you too will go from, "I Could Never Do That" to, "I Could Do That."
Latest episodes

Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 13min
105 Shannon Hogan - The Unforgiving Hours: The Grit, Resilience, and Perseverance at the Heart of Endurance Sports
Carrie Barrett welcomes the remarkable Shannon Hogan, an inspiring figure in the world of ultra-endurance sports and the author of the newly released book, The Unforgiving Hours: The Grit, Resilience, and Perseverance at the Heart of Endurance Sports. Hogan, a former pro mountain biker, ultra-runner, open water swimmer, and avid adventurer, shares her insights on the mindset required to tackle numerous extreme athletic challenges, featuring stories and lessons from a diverse cast of lesser-known yet extraordinary athletes. They discuss the importance of community support, resilience, and the joys of discomfort, showcasing stories of athletes who have achieved the extraordinary. With themes of personal growth and perseverance, this episode encourages listeners to embrace their own challenges and explore the limits of their potential where "will becomes stronger than skill." This book will ignite your endurance spirit and help you discover the unthinkable achievements awaiting just beyond your comfort zone. Purchase The Unforgiving Hours on Amazon or wherever books are sold Read more about Shannon and her book in The Seattle Times Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 48min
104 Laurie Marbas, MD - Become a Habit Healer: Simple Steps to Transform Your Life
Understanding the transformative power of adopting new habits is paramount in our journey toward healing and personal growth, but we're often misguided in developing new habits thinking we need to do something big, drastic or "all at once." We're caught up in the desire to "break" habits before they break us. What if there was a different way to think about habit change? What if you asked yourself, "How Can I Heal Myself Today?" Dr. Laurie Marbas, MD, MBA is a double board-certified family medicine and lifestyle medicine physician. She emphasizes the notion that instead of merely attempting to break detrimental habits, we should focus on healing them through awareness and intentionality. By doing so, we can cultivate a nurturing relationship with ourselves and create sustainable change that is both manageable and profound. Dr. Marbas shares the significance of developing microhabits—small, actionable steps that can be easily integrated into our daily routines—as a way of becoming our owne "habit healer." This episode serves not only as a guide to personal growth but as an invitation to redefine our relationship with our habits in a more loving and supportive manner. Laurie Marbas, MD Website Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Jul 1, 2024 • 43min
103 Gary Burr - What If The Beatles Got Back Together?
If you’ve listened to music, let’s say in the last 30 years, then you’re likely familiar with my guest today, but not in the way you may think. Gary Burr is a legendary songwriter and vocalist who is behind hit songs for artists like Kelly Clarkson, Kenny Chesney, Lady A, The Oak Ridge Boys, Tim McGraw, Reba McEntire, Juice Newton, Christine Aguilera, Garth Brooks, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Carole King, and Ringo Starr…and seriously…that’s the tip of the iceberg here. He's had 14 #1 hits in total (so far), 24 top 10s, and 32 top 40 hits to his name - a master of the 4-minute story arc known as a song. But, while I could talk to him for years about his songwriting career, I reached out to him about something else — his foray into fiction. On July 5th, 2024, Gary is releasing his first novel called, Reunion - A Rock-n-Roll Fairy Tale and it is his take on the question…"What if?" What if John Lennon wasn’t assassinated? Could they ever come together again and play as a band? And, as a reader, can you let your imagination even go there? I talk to Gary about the process of writing a fairy tale novel. How is it different (or similar) to writing songs? How did he take four of the most famous people in history and script an alternative story? Why tackle someone like the Beatles? Did he know from the outset how it would end? And, most importantly — what does Ringo (who Gary has worked with for the past 20 years) think of this fairy tale? We often think about “what ifs” in our own lives and it is a fascinating idea to explore. Order Reunion - A Rock-n-Roll Fairy Tale GaryBurr.com Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Save 15% on Plantstrongfoods.com with code: CARRIE15 "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 2min
102 Katie Steele, LMFT and Tiffany Brown, PhD, LMFT - Confronting the Hidden Mental Crisis in Women's Sports
Women’s sports are certainly having a moment and with more eyes on women’s sports, comes more scrutiny and pressure. The new book, "The Price She Pays: Confronting the Hidden Mental Health Crisis in Women's Sports—from the Schoolyard to the Stadium" explores this crisis in women’s athletics from early childhood exploration to elite-level competition, up to retirement. Authors Katie Steele and Dr. Tiffany Brown of @Athletesmentalhealthfoundation are both Licensed Family and Marriage Therapists who work with athletes in their practice and have noticed the unique pressures that female athletes have faced to be thin, but not too thin, to be aggressive, but not too aggressive, to be strong and muscular, but heaven forbid you’re too muscular. It’s not surprising that female athletes are apt to suffer greatly from disordered eating and substance abuse, sexual abuse, racism, depression and anxiety, self -harm and suicidal ideation. This new book seeks to answer the question of WHY? Why has this been woven into women’s sports and is the system too broken to fix? Katie and Tiffany don’t think so and this book serves as a wonderful resource for athletes, coaches, parents, and other therapists to provide answers and help before it’s too late. The profiles of athletes they share are powerful and that’s where the “I could never do that” theme resonates. Despite their fears of retribution, punishment, or damage to their reputation, these women featured in the book all chose to share their experiences for future generations of female athletes who we all want to see thrive. Listen at the link in the bio or wherever you follow your podcasts. The book comes out June 18th! Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

May 29, 2024 • 1h 9min
101 Robert Cheeke - Become an Impactful Vegan
Robert Cheeke has been a pillar in the plant-based community for over 30 years as an award-winning bodybuilder, outspoken vegan advocate, and New York Times Best-Selling author of The Plant-Based Athlete. It’s his new book, however, that inspired me to reach out and have him on the “I Could Never Do That” podcast. So many want to become more impactful in everything we do (especially for causes that are important to us), but often don’t know where to begin. We get stuck in the, “I could nevers” because we see the big donors, the celebrity endorsements, or the big social media campaigns and think, "That's just not me." Well, The Impactful Vegan: How You Can Save More Lives and Make the Biggest Difference for Animals and the Planet is a blueprint for how you (and me and all of us) can use your time, energy, skills, talents, and resources to make the greatest impact on the lives of animals and the planet. Yes, this book is about becoming a more impactful vegan, but the pages and the examples translate into ANYTHING that holds our hearts. Reading this book made me think differently about how I can contribute to the world and I hope this conversation does the same for you. Pre-order The Impactful Vegan Follow Robert on Instagram "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) Support the Podcast through BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett or venmo: https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett I Could Never Do That - Instagram

Apr 23, 2024 • 56min
100 Michelle Bandur -Turning the Words of a Bully Into a Big Fat Positive Movement
TV journalist, Emmy Award Winner, and multiple @ironmantri triathlete, Michelle Bandur (@michellebandurtv), shares her story of how she took an anonymous bully’s mean-spirited letter and turned it into a positive movement that has inspired and empowered thousands of young girls to achieve more than they ever imagined. Her mission? Inspire you to stand up for yourself, love yourself, and turn around a negative experience. Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Apr 3, 2024 • 1h 7min
99 Emily Ballenger - A Brain Tumor, A Miracle Birth, and Always Believing in Yourself
Let me give a couple of headlines from the past two years of today's I Could Never Do That guest, Emily Ballenger. @emilybatx Shock pains in her face, the Berlin Marathon, pregnancy, miscarriage, another pregnancy, the selling of a business, a brain tumor, a birth, massive brain surgery, the London marathon, and the completion of the Six World Marathon Majors. These events would throw anyone off balance (literally and figuratively), but Emily has used them to create a foundation of stability of what’s important in her life. Marathon training truly is a metaphor for her last two years. Sometimes you don’t get the run or the race you want, but you always walk away stronger and more accomplished. The growth comes from the lessons learned and not the time on a clock. Emily has no idea what the future holds for her health, but she lives boldly for her baby Beau and her family, proving that in those "I could never do that" moments of despair, a little forward motion is sometimes all you need. Episode Webpage Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Mar 20, 2024 • 57min
98 Caroline Paul - Become a Tough Broad and Embrace Outdoor Adventure As You Age
It’s no secret that girls – and women – haven’t traditionally had role models for adventure- seeking and exploration as we age. Even as young girls, we’re taught to "be careful" while boys are taught to "be strong and brave." It's maddening. Author Caroline Paul, a longtime adventurer, started to notice the massive decline in the number of women she would see when she would go out paddle boarding, skateboarding, or surfing. In her late 50’s she was asking the questions like, “Why is this happening?” and, "Shouldn’t we be experiencing adventure at ANY age?” That’s what her new book, Tough Broad seeks to answer with the women Caroline interviews in her book. I’m talking hikers, wing walkers, birdwatchers, BMX racers, boogie boarders, swimmers, and more. These women aren't experts. But their experiences and the scientific studies that back them up offer important insight into our own physical and emotional health as we age, showing that growing older is no reason for women to sell themselves short. One thing that is clear: Adventure doesn’t have to be some adrenaline filled, death-defying act, although there is some of that in this book. No, true adventure and self fulfillment can start with a walk outside. The more time you spend outdoors and the more positive your view on aging, the happier you will be. That can indeed make you a tough broad. Buy Tough Broad - From Boogie Boarding to Wing Walking - How Outdoor Adventure Improves Our Lives as We Age Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Mar 11, 2024 • 1h 23min
97 Seeking Better Balance with Jill Jacobs: Work Smart, Spend Smart, Do What You Love
My guest today encountered a personal (and all-too-common) dilemma after she had her son eight years ago. As someone who worked full-time in corporate or tech jobs for most of her career, Jill Jacobs was anxious to get back to work after giving birth. Not only did she love working, but as she says today, she needed to get back to work to support her home, lifestyle, and new baby’s needs. Quickly, she realized how daunting and unsustainable this was. Here she was working full time, paying somebody else to be home with her child and, when she did get home from work, she was clearly not bringing her best self. Ahhh…the American dream, right? Here’s the deal, though. Educated women with children are leaving the work forces in droves. What Jill wanted was to work smarter, spend smarter, and love what she was doing. So, since she wasn’t finding it in the workforce, she started it herself. Enter the Better Balance vision. At Better Balance, Jill and her team connect professionals who want to work less than 40 hours a week with the Employers looking to hire them. They help people find fulfilling part-time professional work, leveraging their education, experience, talents and skills while maintaining a balance that fits their priorities in life. Jill offers valuable and real insights about starting a business from the ground up, taking risks, and the value of finding mentors and supporters in your endeavor. And, as difficult it is, she also stresses the importance of taking small steps and imperfect action. I love this “I Could Never Do That” theme of taking a problem and creating a solution. Not just so you can flourish, but to help others do the same. Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett Better Balance Website "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)

Feb 23, 2024 • 1h 27min
96 Kim Murphy - Shares Her Midlife Awakening
Kim Murphy was born and raised on a farm in Texarkana, Texas- about as ordinary an upbringing as you can have. After losing her father to Alzheimer's in 2018, she underwent a massive health and lifestyle change, which led to a complete career change, a booming online coaching business, and a brand new book called, Plant Powered: How to Prevent or Reverse Chronic Diseases, Lose Weight, and Feel Great with the Power of Whole Plants. Kim shares her family's journey to a whole food plant-based diet, highlighting its benefits on weight management, brain function, and energy levels. She offers practical tips for those considering a plant-based lifestyle and emphasizes the importance of community support. Kim provides coaching programs through her website, simplyplantbasedkitchen.com. This is a shared journey of someone who has conquered so many roadblocks that would otherwise stop most of us from achieving WHATEVER we want to do in life. Support the Podcast through Venmo https://www.venmo.com/u/CarrieSappBarrett or BuyMeACoffee.com - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CarrieBarrett "I Could Never Do That" Website - https://www.podpage.com/icouldneverdothat/ "I Could Never Do That" Instagram - @icouldneverdothat Theme Music: Your Love by Atch -License: Creative Commons License - Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0)