

Commercial Photographer: Your Guide to Marketing, Creativity and Growth
Sam Hollis and Marcus Ahmad
Commercial Photographer: Your Guide to Marketing, Creativity and Growth is the essential podcast if you're a professional headshot photographer or brand photographer. Ready to achieve sustainable business growth? Each week, we share practical advice and actionable strategies to help you master your marketing, ignite your creativity, and build a profitable commercial photography business. Learn how to attract ideal clients, stand out in the marketplace, and build the business you've always wanted. Stop guessing and start growing with business help and guidance from industry experts.
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Aug 24, 2023 • 19min
Making the move from an amateur to a professional photographer
This week Marcus and Sam talk about making that big jump to going pro. What are the key things to think about?

Aug 17, 2023 • 26min
Guest Interview with Nick Hemms - Mens Stylist
We talk to Nick about how he got into men's styling and how photographers can use a stylist on their shoots.

Aug 10, 2023 • 16min
Meet Marcus and Sam
Sam and Marcus are in the same room together and took this rare opportunity to quiz each other about their past! This episode is a little like being present as they chat about their past in the pub, pint in hand.
Sam started design websites n the 90’s working with HTML and hand coding in Notepad. And even though he had various jobs he was always designing websites in the background. As a keen white water
kayaker he did a lot of traveling, visiting exotic places for his sport.
Designing websites with photographs had its problems early on as it meant relying on scanning negatives and transparencies. Then compressing files significantly so they could load quickly.
His dad was a wedding photographer and Sam built up a lot of knowledge assisting him on weddings. A valuable experience that helped him direct his focus on designing websites for photographers as well as an understanding what makes a great image.
Marcus found photography in his mid 30’s after a successful career as a session bass player. Prompted because he was looking for a new creative outlet and after purchasing a decent camera was drawn into the way he could “contain” the world through a viewfinder.
Quickly immersing himself into studying the subject at college and university he moved from his home in London to Brighton to partake in a BA in Editorial Photography. Then onto a role assisting a top advertising photographer for a few years helping out creating the image with flash lighting.
After branching out on his own shooting fashion he eventually starting working for the Hair and Beauty industry in his own studio in London as well as LA, NY and Paris. He also ran workshops for hairdressers on how to photograph their own work for magazines.
After 10 years Marcus was offered a post as a Senior Lecturer in Fashion and Advertising Photography at the University of South Wales moved to
Bristol and after another eight years set up his current practice as a Brand Photographer.

Aug 3, 2023 • 22min
Guest Interview with Photographer Donna Green
Straight talking and bags of experience makes this episode from Donna unmissable. She leaves nothing to chance with her work and marketing with detailed research, preparation and planned execution.
Donna adds pounds to the people she photographs - pounds as in money that is! Her niche is in branding photography and her practice is based in Edinburgh.
In this show we discuss the ins and outs of branding photography and in particular how she gets her clients to interact with their own customers. And no surprise this starts with research and planning. This leads to creating image that resonate with not only the end user but the people ie customers, who are viewing the product and services.
As Sam points out it is about creating an emotional connection and Donna certainly builds this into her shoots. Initially having planning meetings with the clients and filling in a workbook to identify - the ideal client, their values, USP etc.
Its all about adding value to the process. It’s not unusual for the branding photographer to turn into a business coach at this stage in the game. The end result is a library of digital assets that will be completely in line with the client’s business that are totally on-brand. Donna goes on further to offer a Pinterest board to the client to make sure they images completely meet their expectations, something that can easily be lost in translation!
The actual shoot is normally a few weeks after this process allowing time for purchase props or clothing. Donna tends to work on her own without hair and stylists - preferring a more natural look.
Marcus probes further and asks Donna where she finds her clients. And she goes on to talk about how the Covid lockdown had some positive aspects for her business. It gave her time to really nail her website’s SEO and rise up the Google rankings to get to No.1 in her area for her chosen keywords.
A tip Donna shares is using keywords in social media posts and structuring her website to be SEO friendly.
One of Donna’s values is “Don’t be a dick!” And works with businesses that she likes and who like her. She also focuses on really spreading the word about her business, not just relying on others to do it for her. Making efforts, and going out of her comfort zone, to ensure her brand is well known. Thirdly she has a go get it attitude, instilled in her by her mother and evidenced by teenage years spent competing globally in bagpipe tournaments!
In short, decide what you want, think why you want it and never give up
We wrap up talking about following up with her clients and how a strategy call after delivery is beneficial and this is something she is working on.

Jul 20, 2023 • 24min
Guest Interview with Photographer Gemma Griffiths
This week Sam and Marcus talk to Gemma Griffiths.
Gemma is a branding and family photographer based in South Wales. She has 16 years experience in the industry. She offers bespoke personal branding shoots, headshot shoots and family photoshoots in lots of fabulous locations around South Wales. Gemma also offers photography training for beginners and professional photographers too. You can
book a one to one training session or join one of her group workshops
We take Gemma back to the start of her career when she started, as a travel photographer. She then switched into portraits and weddings. after taking some photography courses. It’s a full time job for her and now focusses her attention on branding photography.
Gemma was drawn to working with businesses due to the flexibility and more creative approach. Her practice has grown organically even during the Covid crisis. Generally working with solopreneurs she showcases
services and products and really gets across the USP of every business.
Gemma works mainly on location and works closely with the client to build up the direction of the photoshoot she is very ”client led”. Showing personalities of the business owners as well as their skills.
Coming up with the concept is very appealing to Gemma and loves coming up with ideas as well as helping put into vision clients own ideas as well.
Having been one Linkedin for a couple of years Gemma is fascinated by ow her clients and others use photographic imagery on-line. Whether it be for testimonials and quotes, advertise their services and products.
Aiming to deliver 100-150 images per shoot, she encourages her clients to have multiple wardrobe changes to get maximum value. Sam goes on to discuss extra services that can be offered by photographers: banners, reels and so on. For Gemma her clients are quite savvy in doing this
and Marcus does offer extra services to his subscription clients.
Marcus asks how she manages her two different client groups business clients and personal clients. She does this by setting up different social media accounts and splitting up her website accordingly. Linkedin for business and families on Facebook.
As we close the show we discuss camera equipment. Gemma shoots on a mirrorless Sony and usually uses 35mm and 85mm lenses, Lightroom for editing and Photoshop for deeper edits.

Jul 13, 2023 • 18min
Lenses, a guide for commercial photographers
In this episode we discuss lenses. Types brands and uses. And Marcus takes us through the lenses he uses on an average photo shoot.

Jul 6, 2023 • 30min
Guest Interview with Olga Geidane
Episode 15 Olga Gidane
Olga Geidane is a highly engaging and sought-after expert speaker on mindset transformation and change.
She shared her infectious energy and wisdom on self-leadership across five continents at conferences and personal development events of all kinds, both online and in-person.
She helps individuals to perform at their peak through her 5-step transformative mindset coaching as well as her courses and Olga is very passionate about helping couples to rebuild their relationships through her Stay Forever Together Relationship retreats.
A background in modelling has given Olga the confidence to really use photography to promote her personal brand and finds it easy to collaborate and communicate with photographers. And an important part of the process is having a strong two way dialogue with the photographer.
Marcus discussed Olga’s live as a model and though she remembers the time with fondness she notes that it was hard work and
it really was 24/7. A great term that Olga discusses the notion of “camera ready” - to be on point.
Olga recommends seeking out a style and colour consultant before the shoot to really nail the look. A great tip for photographers if you see a client who has changed their say, hairstyle. Get in touch with them to see if they need more photographs.
On the shoot itself Olga really suggests that the photographer visits the location to see if any extra lighting is needed. Sam discusses the importance of that pre-production form/chat to really dive deep into the details and needs. And on the shoot itself to allow time so that you are not rushed. And at the end of the shoot review what you have done - you may have missed something!
This is also a great time to go through, with the client, the story behind the shoot and make sure the images flow.
The mood board - a collection of images that can inspire the mood of the shoot.
Olga makes a great point about the best side of your face and make sure this faces the camera and is lit accordingly.
She goes on further to discuss how she has built her personal and how photography is crucial in that - choosing photographs that are authentic.
This has helped her living her dream as a digital nomad, living in lots of different locations and having adventures with her husband.
You can find more what she offers her clients here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/olgageidane/

Jun 29, 2023 • 22min
SEO for photographers, or how to get found on Google
Getting found on Google is important for most businesses. For many types of photography businesses, it can make the difference between a successful and failed business. For photographers moving up the Google ranking can be easier than for other businesses. You tend to be only competing on a local level with other photographers. There are no big regional and national players to complete with. As Sam says you only have to be better than the people around you.
We go through a few important things to think about for SEO.
What words and phrases do you want to be found for and where do you want to be found for them? As we have discussed on other
shows ( Ep 5 Generalise or Specialise) having a niche will help, as all your content will be focused on one area of photography.
Technically your website needs to be error free and well setup with correct use of page titles, meta descriptions and other technical details. Google Search Console is a free platform that can help you with some of this.
Visitor numbers. It’s a bit of a Catch 22 but visitor numbers are a key metric Google uses when judging how useful your website is. If Google sees lots of engaged visit to your website, it’s thinks it must be useful. So, sends more people there. You need a plan to getting visitors to your site. Giveaways and great content on your site are you friends here. You then need a place to send them from social media, paid ads and an email list are great ways to do this.
Backlinks These are links from other websites to your website. These a great way of moving up the Google ranking, especially when the back linked sites are of a high quality/value. A great tip is to get a free listing on business directories. Also produce great content that others will want to link to.
Content is key. If your site contains engaging, unique, useful content that’s really important. It engages visitors and tells Google what you do. You can also create blogs specifically to help with SEO on specific search terms. Creating blogs that answer your potential clients questions is a good place to start. Sam has a great blog about blogging
here.
Engagement or “bounce rate” is important so have a site that is rich in information, easy to navigate and engaging. Bounce rate is simply a measure of how many people leave your site without interacting with it. Don’t worry, lots of people do this. Some people are simply in the wrong place, and others simply wanted your phone number, so have no need to
interact.
We go on to discuss the use of AI content engines such as Chat GPT and how this may effect your SEO. Marcus’ dream where unique images on your websites will have a positive effect on SEO still seems a long way off!

Jun 22, 2023 • 24min
Guest Interview with Christine Michaelis
This week we talk to Christine about what it's like being in front of the lens and how she uses her photographs.
Christine, Marketing and Creative Start-Up Coach, founder of the Creative Start-Up Academy, author of multiple books, public speaker, podcaster and workshop facilitator. She has worked in marketing and advertising for more than 12 years before she decided to start her own business supporting start-ups. With her hands-on approach, she has helped hundreds of individuals validate their business idea and create a successful start-up as well as working with small businesses supporting them getting clarity and marketing their business. She sees entrepreneurship as a way of life and loves the passion that comes from working in that industry.
Christine regularly has photo shoots to get more images and is always using photographs on her website, in her marketing and on social media. For Christine, what separates different photographers is their attention to detail and the way they react and talk to the sitters. Preferring a natural look Michelle and Marcus discuss different styles and trends in headshot photography.
We discuss how the client needs to brief the photographer about where the images are going to be used and what look they want. But equally many clients need help expressing this and it's the photographers job to help them do this. Client using a range of clothing on a shoot helps to get a variety of shots, and that means it looks like they were shot on different days in different locations. Reminiscing on a shoot she did with her own photographer, Christine discusses how the client has to be clear in their aims but acknowledged that it is a two way process, as the photographer is the specialist. Christine feels very confident in front of the camera but still really believes spending time with the photographer before the shoot helps build the “bond”. We go on to discuss retouching in particular filters and how far you go with the retouch ie over-smoothing and loosing authenticity.
Christine works with a lot of start up creatives and offered up the following advice for those starting out in the business:
Don’t be overwhelmed by the amount of competition.
The importance of having a style
Trust is very important and this needs to be combined with a strong connection
Build an appropriate photographic portfolio
Be clear with what you offer
Network with other photographers. You will gain insights, gain friends and gain work. Photographers may need second shooters that they know and trust. And they may have referrals. Dates they can;t make or leads who are the wrong fit for them, but could be perfect for you.
You can find more about Christine here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinethecoach/
https://www.creativestartupacademy.com/academy/

Jun 15, 2023 • 17min
Creativity for Photographers
Today’s topic is creativity.
The 5 R’s of Creativity !
1. Rules
• Learn them
• Break them
• Make your own
We take a classic “rule” - the Rule of Thirds.
Initially learn the rule inside out so you don’t have to think about it - it’s internalised. Then you can move onto the next stage where you purposefully break the rule. In this case placing objects of interest say in the centre or dividing the frame into quarters.
Then the final stage is where your own rule is incorporated into your style. Think Hiroshi Sugimoto and his work entitled Seascapes. Where the horizon line is in the centre and he has done this over and over again.
2. Research
Though I take my lead from academia, research does not need to be “dry” ie dull and tedious. Though good research is not done via the internet! Far better to go took bookshops and go to the art department. The vast majority of established artists and photographers work is not available via the internet it is found in galleries and books.
Books are a more immersive experience - the touch, the smell, the weigh etc give a deeper learning experience. We discuss the classic book Robert Frank- Les Americains (1959)
Galleries are great places because you get to see the print up close and you can see the subtleties of the tones.
When studying these greats think of not HOW yet have taken the photographs but WHY- a far more interesting question! We go on to discuss movies as they can be a great source of inspiration - Wenders, Hitchcock and Kubrick as well as good quality documentaries.
3 Reflection
Give yourself time to really look at your work -what works well what doesn’t. Be critical (in a positive) Print your work out and that will help.
4 Repeat
Don’t be seduced into thinking you need to go to exotic locations to improve your photography. You will make greater improvements by going back to the same place over and over again. In this way you can build on your skills in a creative way.
5 Rest
This is different to reflection. It is about giving yourself time just to think and let the creative juices flow. Sometimes the best ideas come when you least expect
Links
https://www.sugimotohiroshi.com/seascapes-1
https://www.lensculture.com/articles/robert-frank-the-americans
The Genius of Photography - well worth a look,if you can find it!


