The Holy Post

With less than a week until the election, Phil and Skye are joined by Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss what should, and should not, influence how Christians vote. First, they talk about reactions to Skye's video (not Phil's, he had nothing to do with it!) about abortion, and the different ways the issue is viewed by evangelicals. They also unpack recent articles about the election from three Christian leaders—John Piper, Al Mohler, and Joel Hunter. It is just a coincidence that the two retired pastors oppose Trump? And why does Mohler hold Black Christians to a different standard when voting? Phil explains why two traditionally Republican counties should make conservatives rethink their support for Trump. And why is every election framed as an existential threat to America? Finally, Skye talks with Scott Arbeiter, president of World Relief, about the historically low number of refugees resettled in the U.S., the current administration's broken promise to help persecuted Christians, and why evangelical leaders and laity are so far apart on the issue of immigration. Lifeway Research | "2016 Election Exposes Evangelical Divides": https://lifewayresearch.com/2016/10/14/2016-election-exposes-evangelical-divide/ Desiring God | "Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin: Pondering the Implications of the 2020 Election": https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/policies-persons-and-paths-to-ruin?fbclid=IwAR05aL2TzkuWYvV4SfMPb8bXl3rQdud6e1NYGzOmHsXr5ZFQxhDYRViaM1Y Albert Mohler | "Christians, Conscience, and the Looming 2020 Election": https://albertmohler.com/2020/10/26/christians-conscience-and-the-looming-2020-election Michael Wear Responds to Al Mohler | Twitter Thread: https://twitter.com/MichaelRWear/status/1320849749709332480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1320849749709332480%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthewayofimprovement.com%2F2020%2F10%2F27%2Fsouthern-baptist-seminary-professor-al-mohler-makes-it-official-he-voted-fo%2F Christian Post - Wayne Grudem | "A respectful response to my friend John Piper about voting for Trump": https://www.christianpost.com/voices/a-response-to-my-friend-john-piper-about-voting-for-trump.html

Author and cultural commentator, Os Guinness, says, "If people don't understand the 60's, they can't understand today." Skye talks with Os about the re-release of his classic book, "The Dust of Death" and how the 60's counterculture planted the seeds for the cultural upheaval and division we're seeing in 2020. Also this week, can the National Association of Evangelicals restore the reputation of evangelicalism in America? The Gospel Coalition offers 6 wise suggestions for political engagement, and the crew discusses how church leaders can lead their congregations through potentially divisive topics. Plus, News of the Butt…in space! "NASA Just Sent a New $23 Million Space Toilet to the International Space Station": https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/nasa-just-sent-new-23-million-space-toilet-international-space-station-180976037/ "For the Health of the Nation" Statement: https://www.forthehealth.net" 6 Ways Christians Can Be Wiser in Public Engagement": https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/6-ways-christians-wiser-political-engagement/

The most esteemed New Testament scholar alive today is back on the show! N.T. Wright discusses his new book about John's gospel, "Broken Signposts." Wright talks to Skye about two competing visions of power and freedom at work in the world today, and how the church sometimes fails to follow the right one. He also unpacks how "identity" has become the dominant framework in our culture, how it's a reaction to colonialism, and the danger it poses to Christian unity. Also this week—Is America having a moral convulsion? David Brooks things so. The gang discusses his new article about what happens when we lose trust in America's institutions and in one another, and why the church could be the answer. Plus, Phil gets invited to a cookout, Christian wins another award, and Skye's dog vomits on his sofa. Should Christians vote for Trump? Eric Metaxas vs David French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYk4-NdCz0"America Is Having a Moral Convulsion": https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/collapsing-levels-trust-are-devastating-america/616581/

Does the Bible have anything to say about the police? What about racial diversity? Are Christians called to submit to the government or reform it? Professor and Anglican priest, Esau McCaulley, talks about his new book, "Reading While Black," and the African-American tradition of Scripture interpretation that avoids the either/or (conservative vs. liberal) thinking typical in the white church. Also this week, Phil shares about his experience being interviewed by Kirk Cameron and goes on a rant about "false binaries." Christian is now an "award-winning" filmmaker. What should a useful voter guide for Christians include? And clowns object to the first presidential debate being called a "circus." "How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don't.": https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/opinion/sunday/christians-politics-belief.html

The Holy Post crew discusses the new Netflix documentary, "The Social Dilemma," about the way social media is contributing to the breakdown of society and how Facebook's algorithms make reasonable people into extremists. Also this week, Skye and Josh Lindsay—his co-host on The Movie Proposal podcast—interview actor and screenwriter, Luke Barnett, about his new comedy "Faith Based." Barnett explains how his long experience in the church informed the project, why Christian movies follow such a predictable formula, and how tribal identity rather than quality is what makes movies successful today. Plus, new research from Barna says fewer Christians think racism is a significant problem than a year ago. And Mexico passes a law preventing kids from buying junk food. "'We Had To Take Action': States In Mexico Move to Ban Junk Food Sales To Minors": https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/912029399/we-had-to-take-action-states-in-mexico-move-to-ban-junk-food-sales-to-minors"White Christians Have Become Even Less Motivated to Address Racial Injustice": https://www.barna.com/research/american-christians-race-problem/

The United States now has more guns than people, and while overall violent crime is down the number of mass shootings is set to break a record in 2020 and suicides from guns is rising. How should Christians think about America's gun culture? David French is back to offer a legal and moral argument for why most attempts at gun control are misguided. He says more legal gun ownership protects freedom, and Skye wonders if a public square filled with guns limits it. And if we can't reduce the number of guns, what's the best way to limit gun crime and mass shootings? Also this week, the Holy Post crew is joined by Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss the legacy of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and what her death means for the presidential election and the future of the Supreme Court. Are the Republicans being hypocrites for filling Ginsburg's seat weeks before the election when they refused to let Obama nominate a justice 8 months before the election in 2016? And what should we think of the Democrat's threat to pack the court? Skye warns about dismantling political norms, Kaitlyn says Christians viewing every election as an existential threat is a failure of discipleship, and Phil plays the devil's advocate by throwing down the abortion card. https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/yes-america-could-split-apart

At numerous points throughout American history, Christians had a choice to confront the evils of racism or quietly ignore them. In a challenging conversation Jemar Tisby, author of "The Color of Compromise" and host of the "Pass the Mic" podcast, explores key moments from the arrival of the first African slaves in 1619 to the rise of the Religious Right in the 1970s when the white church in America chose silence or complicity rather than faithfulness. He also explains how Christian arguments to justify slavery are still being used by some today in the wake of police violence and Black Lives Matters. Also this week, Skye and Phil discuss why neighborhoods are becoming more segregated than ever. Tim Keller's definition of "righteous" challenges our American and economic belief in self-interest. IBM is using A.I. to create fake crowds for televised sports during the pandemic. Plus, Amsterdam has an innovative solution for a scourge of "wild peeing." "The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church's Complicity in Racism" by Jemar Tisby: https://www.amazon.com/Color-Compromise-American-Churchs-Complicity-ebook/dp/B07BB6R827 "IBM's Watson to help tennis fans argue with each other:" https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/tech/ibm-artificial-intelligence-us-open/index.html "These planter-like urinals are Amsterdam's answer to the problem of 'wild peeing'": https://www.cnn.com/style/article/amsterdam-sustainable-urinal-scli-intl/index.html

Why does everything feel like it's "us vs. them" these days? Pastor and author J.R. Briggs says it's because we've been taught to see everything as either/or, while Jesus modeled how to live in the tension of both/and. Briggs calls the space between opposing ideas the "sacred overlap." He talks to Skye about the role of mystery and paradox in Christian theology, and how it applies to contemporary issues. Also this week, why using war rhetoric to describe our Christian mission is very unchristian. Clean comedian, Jim Gaffigan, unloads on Trump in a profanity-filled Twitter rant. Did Eric Metaxas punch someone and then run through Washington D.C. backwards? Plus—beetles, frogs, and butts. "The Sacred Overlap: Learning to Live Faithfully in the Space Between," by J.R. Briggs: https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Overlap-Learning-Faithfully-Resources/dp/031010212X "If You're Fighting the Culture War, You're Losing" by Cap Stewart: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/if-youre-fighting-the-culture-war-youre-losing/ "Jim Gaffigan calls Trump 'liar and a criminal,' slams 'Trumpers' in series of tweets": https://variety.com/2020/politics/news/jim-gaffigan-trump-twitter-rant-1234752423/ "Eric Metaxas confirms he punched protester, says protester was to blame": https://religionnews.com/2020/09/01/eric-metaxas-protester-menaced-punch-video-trump-rnc/ "These Water Beetles Make Their Escape Out of Frog's Butt After Being Swallowed": https://www.sciencealert.com/these-water-beetles-can-houdini-their-way-out-of-a-frog-butt-after-being-swallowed

We are deep into campaign season with Christians on all sides becoming increasingly anxious and vocal. Phil talks with Kaitlyn Schiess, author of "The Liturgy of Politics," about the false narratives shaping the hearts and politics of many Christians. She identifies these "false gospels" as prosperity, patriotism, security, and supremacy—and they're far more subtle and powerful than you might think, and they affect both sides of the partisan divide. Also this week, Jerry Falwell Jr. responds to his expulsion from Liberty U. by quoting MLK's "Free at last..." speech. And Mike Pence quotes the Bible in his RNC speech but replaces "Jesus" with "Old Glory." Is it the clearest example of Christian Nationalism yet? "What Jerry Falwell Jr. Taught Me at Liberty University" by Kaitlyn Schiess: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/opinion/jerry-falwell-liberty.html "The Liturgy of Politics" by Kaitlyn Schiess: https://www.amazon.com/Liturgy-Politics-Spiritual-Formation-Neighbor/dp/0830848304 "Vice President Mike Pence Swapped Out "Jesus" for "Old Glory" in His RNC Address": https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/vice-president-mike-pence-swapped-out-jesus-for-old-glory-in-his-rnc-address/

Is our vision of the ideal Christian man more like Jesus or John Wayne? Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez talks about the rise of militant masculinity within evangelicalism, how the threat of Communism in the mid twentieth-century led church leaders to deify testosterone, and why we don't like images of a weak, crucified Jesus. Also this week, Jerry Falwell's "pool boy" scandal, John MacArthur says abortion, gay marriage, and transgenderism should determine how Christians vote which leads Skye to explain the difference between "cosmic" and "crotch" Christianity, and Phil unpacks David French's latest article about why your vote for president will have no impact on abortion. Plus, it's 130 degrees in Death Valley. What does that mean? "Do Pro-Lifers Who Reject Trump Have Blood on Their Hands?" by David French https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/do-pro-lifers-who-reject-trump-have "About Those Manly Evangelical Protectors" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://kristindumez.com/resources/about-those-manly-evangelical-protectors/ "You Want Context? Jerry Falwell Jr's Crotch Shot and Family Values Evangelicalism" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://kristindumez.com/resources/you-want-context-jerry-falwell-jr-s-crotch-shot-and-family-values-evangelicalism/