The Holy Post

Recently author/professor Karen Swallow Prior was asked what she considered the biggest problem facing the church today, and answered, "an impoverished imagination." So Phil sat down with Karen to talk through what she means by that, and her belief that a lack of imagination-forming reading results in, among other things, our propensity to believe conspiracy theories and our extreme discomfort with uncertainty. Karen also convinces Phil he really, really needs to read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. PLUS, Kaitlyn Schiess joins Skye and Phil to talk through Beth Moore's departure from the SBC, and whether the death of evangelist Luis Palau represents the end of the era of large-scale evangelism. Oh... and if you're using the story of Jesus flipping tables to justify bad behavior on social media, you're probably misusing that story. This week on the podcast! https://religionnews.com/2021/03/09/bible-teacher-beth-moore-ends-partnership-with-lifeway-i-am-no-longer-a-southern-baptist/ https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/cruelty-is-apostasy https://www.relevantmagazine.com/faith/jesus-flipping-tables-isnt-excuse-your-online-rants/

What is the greatest threat facing Christianity in the U.S. today? Socialism? Cancel culture? Wokeness? Not according to Dr. Russell Moore. He says it's "means-to-an-end-Christianity" which seeks to use Christ to achieve some other goal. This, he argues, is what's fueling everything from Christian nationalism to the cover up of sexual abuse in churches and ministries. Don't miss his wide-ranging conversation with Skye. Also this week, the podcast crew discusses the "Seven Mountain Mandate" behind so many of the cultural and political wars Christians are fighting today, and why it's more about seizing power than serving Christ. How do we convince evangelicals to abandon conspiracy theories and get the Covid vaccine? Plus, Phil's tired of hard butter. Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/48587588 https://www.npr.org/2021/02/24/971018428/baffled-canadians-spread-reports-of-hard-butter https://www.kentuckytoday.com/stories/greear-decries-division-repudiates-pharisaical-spirit-in-sbc-ec-address,30736 https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2021/02/24/evangelicals-covid-vaccine-russell-moore-walter-kim/ https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/how-a-rising-religious-movement-rationalizes https://religionnews.com/2021/02/25/the-creeping-radicalization-of-white-evangelicals/

Filling his songs with faith and the theology of respected white leaders like John Piper and Tim Keller, Lecrae became a darling of white evangelicalism. When he spoke out against racial injustice in 2017, all that began to change. Grammy-winning singer/songwriter, record producer and Christian activist Lecrae sits down with Phil to talk about being called "too Black," Fallkirk Center co-founder Charlie Kirk's recent attempt to "cancel" him, and, in the midst of it all, why he still has hope for the church. Plus - was that really a golden statue at CPAC?? Seriously?? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gold-statue-cpac_n_6038eac7c5b60f03d9b3dec5

How do you know if you're a Christian nationalist? Kaitlyn Schiess is back with Phil and Skye to unpack Samuel Perry's top 10 indicators of Christian nationalism and they add a few of their own. They also discuss why there's so much overlap between Christian nationalism and Christian fundamentalism. Plus, Phil explains how the evolution of contemporary Christian music reveals what's happened to the American church. Then, Skye talks with Preston Sprinkle about his new book "Embodied: Transgender Identities, the Church, and What the Bible Has to Say." They discuss what extremists on the Right and Left get wrong about the transgender conversation, and what a pastoral, not just a theological, response looks like. Also this week, a more accurate covid test is being used in China—but there's a downside. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/anal-swab-china-coronavirus/2021/01/27/cc284f56-6054-11eb-a177-7765f29a9524_story.html https://twitter.com/socofthesacred/status/1358834106356948996

Here we go again. The evangelical world is shocked by another leadership scandal. This time it's the report that famed apologist Ravi Zacharias sexually abused women for years before his death in 2020. Kaitlyn Schiess joins Phil and Skye to discuss the story, and why so many ministries fail to investigate their famous leaders or take abuse allegations seriously. Then, Skye talks with Charlie Dates, senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, about his decision to leave the Southern Baptist Convention in December. Believing the SBC's desire to overcome its racist past was genuine, Dates had to convince his historically black church to align with the SBC in the first place. He explains why he was wrong and what it means for the future of evangelicalism in America. This week's Bonus segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47673135

Before the 2020 election, many self-identified "prophets" within the charismatic movement decalred God had revealed to them that Donald Trump would win. Millions of followers believed them. How are they now reconciling their divine revelations with reality? The Holy Post crew looks at another failed prophecy in the 1840s that changed American Christianity. Also this week, Phil deputizes Mike Erre as his pastor to determine whether his sarcastic response to a Twitter critic violated Jesus' command against judging others. And sociologist Joshua Packard talks with Skye about a comprehensive new study on the faith of Generation Z, and why few churches are prepared to engage them. Plus, forced monkey labor. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/business/target-drops-chaokoh-coconut-milk-trnd/index.html https://thewayofimprovement.com/2021/01/15/charismatic-prophets-at-war/ https://www.patreon.com/posts/47376089

Evangelicals used to believe the way to transform America was through revivalism. Increasingly, they now believe it's through revolution. Why are so many buying into Christian nationalism? What is it? And what can we do about those caught in this heretical gospel of political domination? Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss the issue. Also this week, Dr. Derwin Gray—former NFL player and lead pastor of a multiethnic church in North Carolina—joins Skye to talk about his new book on the Beatitudes, "The Good Life," and why Jesus was the happiest person ever. Gray also unpacks why so many pastors are afraid to talk about race and politics. Plus—nano chameleons and scientists teach vegetables to send emails. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/opinion/christian-nationalists-capitol-attack.html https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/discerning-the-difference-between

Was Donald Trump good or bad for the Republican Party? The GOP lost the presidency and the Senate, but in 2020 the party gain seats in the House and Trump also got more votes than any Republican candidate ever! Conservative columnist and veteran of three Republican administrations, Peter Wehner, joins Skye to talk about the future of the party after Trump, and why evangelicals are the group most easily seduced by political power. Also this week, Kaitlyn Schiess joins Phil and Skye to discuss Biden's inauguration, and to answer listener questions like—Why do so many conservative Christians oppose environmentalism? Why is there a split between older and younger Christians regarding Christian nationalism? And, why do the same leaders who say "We should be courageous enough to die for our faith" exhibit so much fear over cultural and political change? PATREON BONUS INTERVIEW Kaitlyn's Twitter Thread

Jemar Tisby (The Color of Compromise) rejoins Phil to discuss his new book, How to Fight Racism. Actual, real steps to be part of the solution, not part of the problem! Plus David French posits that the American church has been infected with something called "Southern shame culture," which sends Phil on a journey into the "Lost Cause" narrative, confederate monuments, revisionist history and the overwhelming desire to "defend our tribe" and punch back at enemies, real and imagined. It's a wild, historical journey from the Civil War to Franklin Graham! (And if you don't like it, it's David French's fault.) Bonus for Patreon Subscribers: Phil asks Jemar some tough questions: What's his take on the CRT controversy in the Southern Baptist Convention? And what about abortion? Since white Christians are more likely to vote for pro-life candidates than Black Christians, does that mean Black Christians don't care about abortion? It's a fascinating conversation available to everyone who supports the podcast at any level! https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/january-web-only/martin-luther-king-jr-racism-racial-justice-policy-change.html https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/where-does-the-south-end-and-christianity

Everyone is trying to make sense of the attack on the Capitol last week by a violent pro-Trump mob displaying Christian symbols—including us! Kaitlyn Schiess joins Phil, Skye, and Christian to talk through the madness. Skye explains why this attack is fundamentally different from political violence in America's past. Phil worries about the loss of objective truth and why responses on Facebook are so much worse than Twitter. The discuss why so many Christians and Christian leaders still support Donald Trump, and the crew unpacks articles from three evangelicals—Ed Stetzer, Michael Gerson, and David French—who say white evangelicalism must face a reckoning. But will it? https://www.holypost.com/post/america-has-seen-political-violence-before-why-the-maga-attack-is-different-more-dangerous https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-evangelicals-were-complicit-in-the-desecration-of-our-democracy/2021/01/07/69a51402-5110-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/10/after-donald-trump-evangelical-christians-face-reckoning-column/6601393002/ https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/only-the-church-can-truly-defeat