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Phil Vischer
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Aug 27, 2021 • 33min

EPISODE 471 BONUS INTERVIEW - The Mess in Afghanistan with David French

Is the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan the right policy? And will abandoning the country ultimately cost more American lives than staying? And who's really to blame for the mess that's unfolding? Skye talks with David French about these issues and more in this special bonus interview. French is the senior editor of The Dispatch, an attorney, the author of numerous books, and an Iraq War veteran. This bonus episode features the first half of Skye's hour long conversation with David French. The full 60 minute interview is available exclusively for Holy Post patreon supporters. Full Interview with David French: https://www.patreon.com/posts/55322869 The Dispatch: https://thedispatch.com Three stages of recent events in Afghanistan [2:26] Moral obligation to Afghans left behind [3:42] https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/when-never-again-becomes-again-and Response to refugee resettlement objections [8:53] Afghan armies and US military support [16:26] https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/when-the-strongest-tribe-leaves https://www.amazon.com/Strongest-Tribe-Politics-Endgame-Iraq/dp/0812978668 Effect of US withdrawal on future US military credibility [21:12] Who's really to blame? [26:21]
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Aug 25, 2021 • 1h 29min

471: Oreos, Ethics, & Afghanistan with Matthew Soerens

With religious believers among the most likely to downplay the seriousness of both the pandemic and climate change, a recent article claims secular people and atheists are now more empathic and moral than conservative Christians. But is the problem really that evangelicals are less moral, or that they're more easily deceived? Then, Matthew Soerens from World Relief talks about the unfolding tragedy in Afghanistan. What dangers do the thousands of Afghans who helped the American military face as the Taliban takes back the country, and what obligation does the U.S. have to help them? While evangelicals remain widely opposed to welcoming refugees, will they make an exception for those who risked their lives to help American troops? Plus, a strike at Nabisco threatens the country's Oreo supply, launching Phil into a rant about cookie varieties and late stage capitalism. Patreon Bonus with David French: https://www.patreon.com/posts/55322869 News Segment: Nabisco strike and Phil's rant about cookie varieties [4:22] https://www.today.com/food/workers-us-nabisco-bakeries-are-strike-t228753 Afghanistan, Haiti, wildfires, floods, heatwaves and droughts [19:12] Christian's history with Afghanistan [20:40] Current situation in Afghanistan [24:40] Are Christians less empathic and moral, or simply more easily deceived? (Discussion of article below) [32:50] https://www.salon.com/2021/08/21/staunch-atheists-show-higher-morals-than-the-proudly-pious-from-the-pandemic-to-climate-change/ Interview with Matthew Soerens: "Welcoming the Stranger: Justice, Compassion & Truth in the Immigration Debate" - https://www.amazon.com/Welcoming-Stranger-Justice-Compassion-Immigration/dp/0830833595 Interview Start [56:00] Talking with church leaders about Afghanistan crisis [58:00] Overview of current situation and America's history/promises in Afghanistan [59:24] Responding to the rhetoric that opposes welcoming refugees [1:08:20] https://twitter.com/cortessteve/status/1427839604376444929? lang=en Evangelical Immigration Table - Statement to President Biden [1:12:34] https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/evangelical-leaders-insist-the-biden-administration-stand-with-afghan-allies/ Practical ways to support [1:14:22] https://worldrelief.org/ Ongoing crisis - DREAMers and DACA program [1:17:01] https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/advocacy/
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Aug 18, 2021 • 1h 27min

Episode 470: The Happiest Countries & Childlike Faith with Mandy Smith

The United Nations World Happiness Report is out, and it says the United States is still behind the world's happiest countries. Can we learn anything from them, or does America's diversity mean perpetual conflict? Then, pastor and author Mandy Smith says Western culture has warped our understanding of what it means to be a Christian by focusing too much on knowledge and power. The antidote? Embracing Jesus' call to childlike faith. Also this week—covid skeptics have some explaining to do because last year life expectancy in the US dropped the most since WWII—and it wasn't because of murder hornets. Plus, a woman sues McDonald's for tempting her to break her Lenten fast. News Segment: Woman sues McDonald's after burger ad compelled her to break Lent fast [2:55] https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/woman-sues-mcdonalds-after-burger-ad-made-her-break-her-lent-fast/ COVID-19 caused U.S. life expectancy to drop 1.5 years [09:38] https://time.com/6082192/covid-19-us-life-expectancy-drop/ White evangelical COVID-19 vaccine acceptance has jumped 11 points since March [09:38] https://www.relevantmagazine.com/current/nation/study-white-evangelical-covid-19-vaccine-acceptance-has-jumped-11-points-since-march/ UN report on global happiness [21:47] https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/21/americans-are-unhappiest-theyve-ever-been-un-report-finds-an-epidemic-addictions-could-be-blame/ https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2021/ Interview with Mandy Smith: Unfettered: Imagining a Childlike Faith beyond the Baggage of Western Culture - https://amzn.to/3nhS6o7 Interview Start [48:06] How is Western civilization in a tailspin? [49:56] An antidote for two false ways of engaging faith [52:35] Qualities of a childlike faith [56:01] Wholistic faith and childlikeness [57:29] Humility & honesty within disorder [01:00:37] Error in overreacting to rationality of Western culture [01:05:21] Story about dancing, healing, and releasing control [01:10:31] Reconciling the call to maturity with a childlike faith [01:19:59] Other resources mentioned: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1hiPIEqDMq2yobve2PyTH7?si=4ab2ce3ebf7d4bbb (The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.)
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Aug 11, 2021 • 1h 35min

Episode 469: Fighting Animals, Individualism, & Engaging Teens with Kara Powell

Phil's Facebook page erupted after the recent episode about reparations—leading the Holy Post gang to ask about the limits of evangelical theology, and how American individualism has shaped our understanding of liberty, economics, and even theology. Then, a prayer service in Portland became a brawl between Proud Boys and Antifa involving paintball guns. Is it a harbinger of more conflicts to come? And a new survey finds Americans are far more confident than Brits they could triumph in a fight against a lion, a chimpanzee, and even an elephant. Then, Skye talks to Kara Powell, the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute, about her latest book, "3 Big Questions That Change Every Teenager." Based on extensive research, Powell explains the unique challenges young people face today, and how parents and churches can engage them with empathy while creating the right conditions for them to grow in faith. PATREON BONUS: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54764019 News Segment: Animal News: What animals could you beat in a fight? [3:16] https://today.yougov.com/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2021/05/13/lions-and-tigers-and-bears-what-animal-would-win-f https://yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2021/05/21/which-animals-could-britons-beat-fight Proud Boys and Antifa clash at Portland prayer service [13:25] https://nypost.com/2021/08/08/pr oud-boys-antifa-clash-at-portland-prayer-service/ Reparations, institutional responsibility, and responses on Phil's Facebook page [19:10] Anthony Bradley - Twitter thread on collective sin [20:49] https://twitter.com/drantbradley/status/1419002457527627783 https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-467-reparations-the-review-the-response-with-gregory-thompson Individualism and collectivism [27:55] https://freakonomics.com/podcast/american-culture-1/ https://freakonomics.com/podcast/american-culture-2/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/16/us-is-growing-more-unequal-thats-harmful-fixable/ https://abc7chicago.com/life-expectancy-black-lives-shorter-chicagoans-blacks-in-chicago/10794226/ Interview with Kara Powell: 3 Big Questions That Change Every Teenager (special link for Holy Post listeners) - https://fulleryouthinstitute.org/3-big-questions/holypostInterview Start [50:28] Recap of research leading to latest book [51:41] https://www.amazon.com/Sticky-Faith-Everyday-Ideas-Lasting/dp/0310329329/ https://www.amazon.com/Growing-Young-Essential-Strategies-Discover/dp/0801019257/ Qualities of an empathetic church [53:54] Three big questions (Identity, Belonging, Purpose) [59:41] Question 1: Identity [1:02:53] Role of technology [1:07:27] Question 2: Belonging [1:12:06] Mistakes for churches to avoid [1:16:16] Questions to spark more questions [1:22:06] Essential qualities for churches to shepherd young people [1:24:28]Other resources mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Growing-Parents-Helping-Teenagers-Adults/dp/0801019265 https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-466-sermongate-stats-sexual-abuse-with-mary-demuth
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Aug 4, 2021 • 1h 22min

468: Lessons from the Rise & Fall of Mars Hill with Mike Cosper

It seems like everyone is talking about the new podcast from Christianity Today, "The Rise & Fall of Mars Hill" about the famed Seattle megachurch and its controversial pastor, Mark Driscoll. The creator of the podcast, Mike Cosper, talks to Skye about the complicated reality of Mars Hill, and what the rest of the evangelical church can learn from its story. Also this week, scientists discover a parasite that could make you live for 200 years, keep you perpetually young, and make you popular. But there's a catch. A woman lets God take the wheel, literally. The Creation Museum in Kentucky thinks rebuilding the Tower of Babel in the key to racial harmony. And Phil's confused about an Olympic team's decision to wear shorts rather than the mandated bikini bottoms. Is it a victory for conservative or progressive values? https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/05/ant-tapeworm/618919/ https://jalopnik.com/woman-crashes-into-multiple-cars-and-a-house-at-120-mph-1847319454 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-extract-15000-year-old-viruses-tibetan-glacier-180978287/ https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/july/tower-of-babel-ark-encounter-ky-ken-ham-answers-genesis.html https://www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/sports/norways-handball-team-has-been-fined-because-they-didnt-want-to-play-in-bikinis/ The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/ Patreon Bonus Segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-interview-54513169
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Jul 28, 2021 • 1h 32min

Episode 467: "Reparations," the Review & the Response with Gregory Thompson

Earlier this year, Gregory Thompson and Duke Kwon released their book "Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance and Repair," in which they make a biblical argument for the American church's responsibility to repay the debts inflicted upon black communities by systemic racism and white supremacy. In this moment of political division and evangelical panic over Critical Race Theory, it's not surprising that responses to the book have been polarized. One of the most negative and widely read reviews came from theologian Kevin DeYoung who said "Reparations" is "clearly not shaped by the gospel." Thompson and Kwon then wrote a lengthy and detailed response to DeYoung's review. (Links to both are posted below.) In this episode, Thompson talks to Skye about the debate, criticism of his book, and what the white evangelical response to racism reveals about its theology, mission, and blind spots. Phil and Christian then join Skye to discuss Thompson's interview, and Christian shares a personal story to remind us all that change is possible. "Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance and Repair" - https://amzn.to/3jUMMov Kevin DeYoung Review - https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-deyoung/reparations-a-critical-theological-review/ Review Response 1 - https://thefrontporch.org/2021/07/sanctifying-the-status-quo-a-response-to-reverend-kevin-deyoung/ Review Response 2 - https://thefrontporch.org/2021/07/distinctively-christian-an-additional-response-to-reverend-kevin-deyoung/ Other resources referenced: "The Sum of Us" - https://amzn.to/3tqEY0V https://religionnews.com/2021/07/12/dont-believe-in-systemic-racism-lets-talk-about-the-sexual-revolution-charlottesville-robert-e-lee/ (The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.)
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Jul 21, 2021 • 1h 30min

Episode 466: Sermongate, Stats, & Sexual Abuse with Mary DeMuth

When news broke that the new president of the SBC lifted portions of his message from the previous SBC president's sermon without attribution, #Sermongate erupted. The Holy Post crew unpacks the controversy, why so many pastors either outsource their sermon prep or plagiarize, and why the pressure to preach may be harming the church. Then, in a dramatic reversal, new data from Pew says mainline churches are growing while evangelical churches are shrinking. Have evangelicals been burned by their own critique that mainline churches don't take the Bible seriously? Then, author and advocate Mary DeMuth explains the history of sexual abuse in the church, why cover ups are now so common, how we can respond more redemptively, and the best ways to prevent abuse in the first place. Plus—good news! Scientists say we have a back-up breathing option if our lungs fail. https://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-say-mammals-can-breathe-through-their-butts-in-emergencies/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/us/sermongate-plagiarism-litton-greear.html https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/ https://religionnews.com/2021/07/08/survey-white-mainline-protestants-outnumber-white-evangelicals/ https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/ https://twitter.com/SkyeJethani/status/1410335364116627465 Resources from Mary DeMuth: "We Too: How the Church Can Respond Redemptively to the Sexual Abuse Crisis": https://amzn.to/3tugZOv https://www.wetoo.org/resources/ https://www.wetoo.org/survivors/21days/ https://www.netgrace.org/ A Church Called Tov: https://amzn.to/38Q55F4 (The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.)
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Jul 16, 2021 • 1h 6min

Jesus and John Wayne Episode 4: Fallen Warriors (The '10s - Today)

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez discusses 'Jesus & John Wayne' with Skye Jethani, exploring white evangelicals' support for Trump, reactions to the Capitol attack, scandals in church leadership, and the role of evangelical media. They address criticism of the book, reflect on the future of American evangelicalism, and the need to reframe narratives of Christian nationalism, patriarchy, and militancy.
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Jul 14, 2021 • 1h 23min

Episode 465: July 4th Roundup & the Shadow Side of Christian Publishing w/Karen Swallow Prior

This 4th of July, Hobby Lobby took out a controversial full page newspaper ad featuring quotes, or mis-quotes, from America's founders about being a Christian nation. An editorial from Robert P. Jones says July 4th is a time to decide what we believe more—the Declaration of Independence that says all people are created equal, or the European doctrine of discovery which enshrined white supremacy? And David French asks what it really means to be a patriot and love our country well as Christians. Then, Karen Swallow Prior is back on the show to talk about a recent address she gave to the Evangelical Press Association about Christian publishing's addiction to celebrity and lack of integrity. But who's really to blame—Christian book publishers, or Christian book consumers? All of that, plus is Spiderman & the Pope the best MCU team up yet? https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-meets-spider-man-130000577.html https://www.hobbylobby.com/about-us/holiday-messages?modal=one+nation+under+god https://www.scarymommy.com/stop-shopping-hobby-lobby-now/ https://religionnews.com/2021/07/02/lets-celebrate-this-fourth-of-july-without-the-myth-of-white-christian-innocence/ https://www.relevantmagazine.com/faith/church/the-american-conservative-does-the-unthinkable-and-defends-the-unmarked-indigenous-graves-as-good-actually/ https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/how-do-christian-patriots-love-their Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/53681162
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19 snips
Jul 9, 2021 • 1h 6min

Jesus and John Wayne Episode 3: Tender Warriors (The '90s - '00s)

Calvin University professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez discusses the evolution of white evangelicalism's view on masculinity post the Cold War, exploring Promise Keepers, fragile masculinity, and the impact of 9/11 on Christian leadership. The podcast delves into racial reconciliation challenges, therapeutic Christianity, and the return to aggressive masculinity in evangelical circles.

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