

The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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Dec 2, 2022 • 1h 3min
French Friday: The Case for Civil Same-Sex Marriage
David French, an American attorney and conservative commentator, dives into the ongoing debate around same-sex marriage rights in the wake of shifting legal landscapes. He discusses the Respect for Marriage Act and its bipartisan effort to safeguard these rights while maintaining religious liberties. French explains his nuanced stance, acknowledging a personal evolution regarding civil marriage versus theological beliefs. The conversation underscores the tension between traditional values and inclusivity, highlighting the complexities of pluralism in contemporary society.

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 27min
537: The War Over Christmas Movies & Gen Z’s Mental Health with Josh Packard
The Hallmark Channel is now producing Christmas movies with LGBTQ characters and relationships leading the network’s former CEO to launch a new holiday movie channel with straight relationships only. The Holy Post crew discusses the role of representation in entertainment, and why a number of recent LGBTQ-centric movies have bombed at the box office. Then, Al Mohler attacked David French for not opposing civil same-sex marriages leading Phil to ask whether Mohler is more interested in defending Christianity or just conservatism. And Skye talks with Josh Packard from Springtide Research about the mental health of Gen Z. New data says young people who engage in spiritual practices experience greater mental health, but they’re not the practices most congregations promote. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...How do we practically live out holiness? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/75266338/ New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 00:00 - Intro and updates 5:19 - The war over Christmas movies 34:42 - David French and Al Mohler Interview with Josh Packard Springtide Research Institute: Gen Z and Mental Health - https://www.springtideresearch.org/gen-z-mental-health 51:31 - Interview intro 52:35 - Big takeaways from recent findings 55:12 - Creating healthy environments 58:33 - Gen Z and spiritual practices 1:05:30 - Safety in faith communities 1:08:37 - Challenge vs despair 1:11:32 - Loneliness and connection 1:23:53 - Further resources 1:26:45 - Credits Other links mentioned: “The parable of David French” by R. Albert Mohler Jr. (World) - https://wng.org/opinions/the-parable-of-david-french-1669034447 “Candace Cameron Bure Wants to Put Christianity Back in Christmas Moves” (Wall Street Journal) - https://www.wsj.com/articles/candace-cameron-bure-great-american-family-11668205295 Holy Post Episode 529: Rapture Anxiety & Why Analog Discipleship is Better with Jay Y. Kim - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-529-rapture-anxiety-why-analog-discipleship-is-better-with-jay-y-kim Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

Nov 23, 2022 • 1h 10min
536: Listener Voicemails! Archeology, Abortion, & Avoiding Holiday Family Arguments
Just in time for the holidays, the Holy Post crew is answering another round of voicemails from our Patreon supporters. On this episode, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about how much confidence to put in archeological evidence for the Bible, how did Christians interpret Revelation before the recent invention of "Left Behind" theology, when does satire and social media become sinful, what abortion policies could most Americans agree on, and how do you practice the Sabbath with a demanding job and young kids? Plus, they offer practical advice for avoiding arguments with your family about politics and religion during holiday gatherings. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Creeds 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74991905/ New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop 00:00 - Sponsor: InterVarsity Press Get 30% off “The Thrill of Orthodoxy” by Trevin Wax with code: THRILL30 at: https://ivpress.com/the-thrill-of-orthodoxy 00:44 - Intro 6:08 - Ben: Holiday family conversations 11:55 - Brad and Carrie: Dispensationalism 22:58 - Millie: Mocking 25:51 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost 27:05 - Cody: Healthy social media use 32:02 - Mark: Sabbath 36:08 - Ali: Archeology and the Bible 46:08 - Peter: How nations treat foreigners 52:03 - Trudie: Political thinking around helping the poor 1:02:31 - Yong: Policies around abortion 1:09:57 - Credits Past episodes and other resources mentioned: Holy Post Episode 244: Cultural Lies, Human Longings & the Gospel with Trevin Wax - https://www.holypost.com/holy-post-podcast/episode/1c5a47cf/episode-244-cultural-lies-human-longings-and-the-gospel-withtrevin-wax Holy Post Episode 410: White Privilege, Cancel Culture, & Reading Revelation with Juan Hernandez - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-410-white-privilege-cancel-culture-reading-revelation-with-juan-hernandez Holy Post Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-506-the-pro-life-case-for-paid-family-leave-with-rachel-anderson “The Millennial Maze” by Stanley J. Grenz - https://amzn.to/3tTUljk “The Liturgy of Politics” by Kaitlyn Schiess - https://amzn.to/3GzrGI1 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Nov 16, 2022 • 1h 15min
Episode 535: What Does the Global Church Believe About Guns? with Morgan Lee
The U.S. midterm elections were full of surprises. The Holy Post crew asks if the political side of the pro-life movement has hit a wall, and if the Republican Party is really moving on from Donald Trump. Then, new data shows a sharp rise among evangelicals who didn’t attend college and who don’t attend church identifying as Republicans. What does it mean? And a new book chronicles the rise of Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, and the rage-fueled conservative youth culture. Then, Skye talks to Christianity Today’s Morgan Lee about what global Christian leaders think about guns and self-defense. Her reporting on the issue reveals a wide spectrum of beliefs, how our perspective may be more cultural than biblical, and why dysfunctional governments elevate the appeal of guns. Plus, no one accidentally licks a toad. New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop Latest Patreon content: Christian Asks... Salvation and the Sinner’s Prayer - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74702525/ Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: The Church Calendar 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/getting-schooled-74529955 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:26 - Psychedelic toads 9:24 - Midterm election debrief 22:33 - Conservative youth culture 34:01 - New data on evangelical Republicans 42:44 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Morgan Lee “Should Christians Own Guns for Self-Defense? A Global Snapshot” (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/october-web-only/guns-christians-self-defense-mass-shootings-protection.html Morgan Lee: https://twitter.com/Mepaynl 43:58 - Interview intro 47:42 - Article overview 51:38 - “God-given right to self-defense” 59:18 - Biblical basis for arguments 1:10:34 - Safe societies and effectiveness of government 1:14:42 - Credits Links from news segment: Christian’s film, “The Girl Who Wore Freedom” - https://geni.us/TheGirlWhoWoreFreedom “Please stop licking psychedelic toads, National Park Service warns” (Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/11/08/national-park-toad-sonoran-desert-hallucinogenic/ “How America’s conservative youth youth movement grew a powerhouse on the cult of rage” (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/10/31/how-americas-conservative-youth-movement-grew-a-powerhouse-on-the-cult-of-rage/ Data from Ryan Burge on evangelical Republicans -https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1588292184914432000 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

Nov 9, 2022 • 1h 15min
Episode 534: Does Ministry Matter More than the Marketplace? with Joe Leininger
With the midterm elections happening in the U.S., we’ve seen a rise in both hyperbolic political rhetoric and political violence. There’s evidence that fewer Christians are willing to denounce the use of armed conflict to achieve political goals, with some even arguing America was founded on it. Are they right? Is there a Christian case for political violence? Then, Skye interviews Joe Leininger, a Christian business leader about his journey from believing God only cared about ministry to a much wider vision of his work in the world. Leininger’s new book, “Dirt Clods and Donkeys: An experiment in mentoring that changed lives,” explores how he has helped other Christians in the marketplace develop a more integrated faith. Also this week—Indiana police pursue Pikachu, don’t kiss camels in Qatar, and Kaitlyn explains why she’s a nerd but not a geek. Holy Post merch! - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 00:00 - Intro 5:27 - Police pursue Pikachu 11:27 - Camels in Qatar 18:35 - Political violence 42:25 - Sponsor: Biola University’s Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Joe Leininger “Dirt Clods and Donkeys” - https://amzn.to/3G22UQE Joe Leininger - https://joeleininger.com 43:36 - Interview intro 46:09 - Formation in faith and business 51:28 - Christian assumptions about business 55:50 - A wider vision of God’s work in the world 1:01:45 - Capitalism 1:05:44 - Risk and allocation of resources 1:09:31 - Mentoring 1:14:10 - Credits Links from news segment: “Indiana man dressed as Pikachu ran from police on lawn mower, cops say” - https://fox59.com/indiana-news/indiana-man-dressed-as-pikachu-ran-from-police-on-lawn-mower-cops-say/ “World Cup fans told ‘steer clear of camels’ in Qatar due to bug ‘deadlier than Covid’ - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-camels-covid-bug-28373022 “Some American Protestants Aren’t Letting Go of Revolution” - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/november/protestants-political-violence-protest-pelosi.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Nov 2, 2022 • 1h 24min
Episode 533: Why Do We Struggle with the Sabbath? with Ruth Haley Barton
Elon Musk announced his takeover of Twitter by carrying a porcelain sink into the headquarters. Will his plan to loosen restrictions on social media help or hurt the country? Archeologist have discovered a new way to verify events in the Old Testament, but Phil wonders if anyone really cares. And is it ever loving for Christians to mock their opponents? The gang examines six rules for Christian mockery from the 17th century and why they may not apply today. Then, spiritual director Ruth Haley Barton explains how she came to see sabbath as a gift rather than an obligation. Her new book, “Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest,” looks at why we struggle to practice sabbath rest, the challenge of technology, and how to make sabbath a lifestyle and not just a weekly discipline. Plus, the saving power of worm spit. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...How do we build unity around the cross? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74098797/ Shop Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 5:08 - Worm spit 9:12 - Elon Musk and Twitter 18:57 - Geomagnetic fields and Biblical narratives 29:46 - Rules for Christian mockery 45:21 - Sponsor: Biola University’s Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Ruth Haley Barton “Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest: From Sabbath to Sabbatical and Back Again” - https://amzn.to/3FSkMgP Ruth Haley Barton - https://www.ruthhaleybarton.com 46:33 - Interview intro 49:09 - Spiritual formation 52:59 - Value of sabbath 56:34 - Guilt around sabbath 1:00:47 - More than a day of rest 1:04:46 - Sabbath as delight 1:07:00 - Challenges of technology 1:17:55 - A communal practice 1:24:24 - Credits Links from news segment: “Worm spit could be a secret cure to the world’s plastic problem” (Inverse) - https://www.inverse.com/innovation/worm-saliva-plastic-pollution “TAU, HU Scientific Breakthrough: Geomagnetic Fields Reveal Truth of Biblical Narratives” (Jewish Press) - https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/tau-hu-scientific-breakthrough-geomagnetic-fields-reveal-truth-of-biblical-narratives/2022/10/25/ “Can you laugh at your enemies and love them? Rules for Christian mockery” (The Christian Post) - https://www.christianpost.com/voices/can-you-laugh-at-your-enemies-and-love-them.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Oct 28, 2022 • 1h 9min
French Friday: What Abortion Abolitionists Get Wrong
With the Dobbs decision earlier this year, the Supreme Court sent the issue of abortion back to the states, and divisions are opening up within the pro-life movement about what comes next. A very vocal faction calling themselves "abortion abolitionists" are arguing for a complete ban on abortion in all cases, including where the life of the mother is at risk, and the criminal prosecution of women who have them. David French and Skye Jethani examine the abolitionists' arguments, explore why they are gaining popularity among Christians, and why they will actually fail to create the culture of life we want. Plus, French and Jethani engage in unrestrained nerdery as they discuss season one of "The Rings of Power." 00:00 - Intro 00:24 - Abortion abolitionists 56:02 - Nerd corner Resources mentioned: “Defending Life: A Moral and Legal Case Against Abortion Choice” by Francis J. Beckwith - https://amzn.to/3WbiYF6 “How Americans Understand Abortion: A Comprehensive Interview Study of Abortion Attitudes in the U.S.” by Tricia C. Bruce - https://news.nd.edu/news/national-abortion-study-finds-out-of-touch-labels-knowledge-gaps-appetite-for-moral-discussion/ David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliatecommissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 29min
Episode 532: How Would Jesus Fight the Culture War? with Mike Erre
Research finds many Americans are opposed to the gospel because they view Christians as hypocrites, but a new $100 million ad campaign hopes to reintroduce Jesus to the country. But does Jesus really have a PR problem, or does the church have a discipleship problem? Then, culture war issues are fracturing evangelical colleges into 5 distinct groups. What does it mean for the future of the church? Phil talks to pastor and podcaster Mike Erre about how to think biblically about the culture wars. Does the New Testament call the church to have power over the culture, how did Jesus influence others, and what about the presence of real evil in the world? Mike shares his 3 principles for Christians and the culture war. Plus, the Dutch are giving guns to robots. What could possibly go wrong? Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Halloween History 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73778907/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 1:52 - Robots with guns 8:22 - Ad campaign for Jesus 27:56 - Evangelical colleges and culture war issues50:04 - Sponsor: Biola University’s Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Mike Erre Voxology podcast: https://voxologypodcast.com 51:20 - Guest intro 55:22 - Culture warring intro 56:53 - The role of the church in the world 1:09:36 - Providing a counter narrative 1:26:00 - Culture warring vs. the way of Jesus in culture 1:28:06 - Credits Links from news segment:“The Netherlands Has Deployed NATO’s First Killer Robot Ground Vehicles” (Vice) - https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgpax3/the-netherlands-has-deployed-natos-first-killer-robot-ground-vehicles“ Oakland Cops Hope to Arm Robots with Lethal Shotguns” (The Intercept) - https://theintercept.com/2022/10/17/police-robot-gun-oakland/“ A $100 million ad campaign wants to fix Jesus’ image. His followers remain a problem.” (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/10/10/a-100-million-ad-campaign-wants-to-fix-jesuss-image-his-followers-remain-a-problem/ “The Five Emerging Factions in Evangelical Higher Education” (Patheos) - https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/04/the-five-emerging-factions-in-evangelical-higher-education/ Links from interview:"American Evangelicals: Embattled and Thriving" by Christian Smith Crazy: 10 years of podcasts, 1 song (by Phil Vischer) - https://youtu.be/Tkgong0GcO0 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Oct 19, 2022 • 1h 18min
Episode 531: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism? with Paul D. Miller
Everyone is suddenly talking about Christian nationalism. Some on the political right are embracing the label, while others on the political left are condemning it. Bart Barber, the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, was interviewed on 60 Minutes this week to explain why Christian nationalism is fundamentally anti-Baptist. But Al Mohler, another influential SBC leader, is less eager to condemn Christian nationalism and takes a more nuanced view. Mohler also says any Christian who doesn’t vote for the Republican Party is being “unfaithful to God.” The Holy Post crew unpacks his argument. Then, Skye interviews Georgetown professor, Paul D. Miller, about his new book, “The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism.” Miller defines Christian nationalism historically, and explains why it is both anti-American and anti-Christian. Plus—When you give a pig a beer... Bonus Patreon Interview with Paul D. Miller: Ukraine & Nuclear Armageddon - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73474701/ 0:00 - Sponsor: The Veritas Forum podcast Listen to The Veritas Forum podcast to engage your heart and mind around the ideas that shape your life. Find it at https://apple.co/3T82prk News Segment 00:44 - Intro 2:39 - Phil’s animation adventures 7:53 - Animal News 12:09 - SBC leaders on Christian nationalism 42:07 - Sponsor: Biola University’s Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Paul D. Miller “The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism” - https://amzn.to/3gi48we 43:24 - Interview intro 44:57 - Paul’s background 47:59 - What is Christian nationalism? 49:42 - Critique of Christian nationalism 54:18 - Christian nationalism then and now 1:03:11 - Race and Christian nationalism 1:11:05 - Nationalism vs nationality 1:12:57 - Advice for spiritual leaders 1:17:29 - Credits Links from news segment: “Feral pig pinches multiple six-packs of beer and runs riot at Pilbara camp sites” - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-09/beer-swilling-swine/4946072 Southern Baptist Convention President Bart Barber on Trump, abortion, sex abuse in the church and more (CBS) - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/southern-baptist-convention-president-bart-barber-60-minutes-2022-10-09/ “The Guardrails” (The Run-Up podcast) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/podcasts/run-up-trump-evangelical-republican.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Oct 12, 2022 • 1h 30min
Episode 530: Can We Still Trust the News? with Bonnie Kristian
Research now shows that people who constantly consume the news are three times more likely to hold incorrect perspectives than those who only consume news occasionally. How did the news business shift from reporting to distorting? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss a new article that blames comedian Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for unintentionally transforming the media into a “subscription-based narrative production” business. Then, Skye talks to journalist Bonnie Kristian about her book, “Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community.” She explains the economic and cultural forces that have warped journalism, and strategies that can help us avoid being misinformed. Also this week, Focus on the Family defends Christopher Columbus, and Phil reports on his latest Twitter skirmishes involving abortion and trans vegetables. Bonus Patreon Interview with Bonnie Kristian: Three steps against conspiracism - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73183372/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:11 - Phil's Twitter skirmishes 21:39 - Columbus Day 32:52 - Narratives in media Sponsor 51:45 - Sponsor: Biola University's Talbot School of Theology Visit www.biola.edu/talbot for more information and to apply today. Interview with Bonnie Kristian "Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community" - https://amzn.to/3MpJ2bc 55:03 - Journalism over the past decade 57:23 - Knowledge crisis on the right and the left 1:00:13 - The perception gap 1:03:44 - Profit-driven news 1:09:18 - Social media and news 1:14:53 - Cancel culture 1:22:15 - Navigating media engagement 1:29:07 - Episode credits Articles from news segment: "Go Ahead and Celebrate Christopher Columbus, Who Sought to Tell the New World About Jesus Christ" by Paul Batura (Focus on the Family's Daily Citizen) - https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/go-ahead-and-celebrate-christopher-columbus-who-sought-to-tell-the-new-world-about-jesus-christ/ "How Stewart Made Tucker" by Jon Askonas (The New Atlantis) - https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-stewart-made-tucker Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.