
The Holy Post
Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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Mar 1, 2023 • 1h 33min
554 Teenage Girls in Crisis & Rethinking Revelation with Scot McKnight
A new report from the CDC finds a record number of teenage girls are now debilitated by mental illnesses including depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. And social psychologist Jonathan Haidt says the evidence is abundant that social media is the cause, but the tech industry is resisting any changes. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss the social, political, and spiritual dimensions of the crisis. They also revisit the Asbury revival and how previous revivals in America produced both good and bad fruit. New Testament professor, Scot McKnight, talks about his latest book, “Revelation for the Rest of Us.” He argues that a literal reading of the book isn’t just wrong but dangerous. Rather than speculating about timelines and events, McKnight says the book is intended to teach Christians in every age how to be discerning, dissident disciples within Babylon. Plus, unstoppable Canadian super pigs are coming! Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Scot McKnight - https://www.patreon.com/posts/79339187/ Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Church Governance 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/79339413/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:44 - Animal News 9:35 - Asbury Revival 26:22 - Mental health and social media 36:47 - Collective action 43:47 - Listening to teenagers 54:41 - Sponsor Miracle Brand trymiracle.com/HOLYPOST Save over 40% and be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to SAVE even more AND get 3 FREE TOWELS! 55:47 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to magicspoon.com/HOLYPOST to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to save five dollars off your order! 57:23 - Interview Intro 59:29 - Scot McKnight https://twitter.com/scotmcknight 1:01: 12 - Speculation approach 1:06:55 - Dispensationalism 1:12:16 - Silence on Revelation 1:18:04 Revelation for the rest of us 1:22:14 - America and Babylon 1:32:37 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment Hybrid Super Pigs From Canada Are Invading Northern US; Why Are They a Problem? - https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/42527/20230222/hybrid-super-pigs-canada-invading-northern-why-problem.htm ‘Woodstock’ for Christians: Revival Draws Thousands to Kentucky Town - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/23/us/kentucky-revival-asbury-university.html Social Media is a Major Cause of the Mental Illness Epidemic in Teen Girls. Here’s the Evidence.- https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/social-media-mental-illness-epidemic The crisis in American girlhood - https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/02/17/teen-girls-mental-health-crisis/ Other resources: Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple by Scot McKnight - https://amzn.to/3ZpUpoW Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 24, 2023 • 1h 9min
French Friday: The Real Masculinity Crisis
There's no denying that American men are struggling. Depression, drug use, and suicide are on the rise, and there are plenty of voices on the far right eager to blame feminists, the LGBT movement, #MeToo, and the left in general. They say our culture has made traditionally masculine traits "toxic" and stolen from men the one thing they need most—respect. David French explains to Skye Jethani why this diagnosis is wrong. He argues that the real crisis isn't that men lack respect, but that they lack "virtuous purpose." Plus, French and Jethani revisit the war in Ukraine one year after the Russian invasion. While the Biden Administration's support for Ukraine has gotten stronger, overall American support has weakened. What does that mean, and how will this conflict eventually end? Sponsor 0:00 - Sponsor: Veritas Forum Listen to The Veritas Forum podcast today at bit.ly/veritasholypost 1:04 - Theme Song 3:00 - Men need purpose more than respect https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/opinion/men-purpose-respect.html Sponsor 27:36 - Miracle Brand trymiracle.com/HOLYPOST Save over 40% and be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to SAVE even more AND get 3 FREE TOWELS! 28:42 - Sponsor Hiya Health hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order. 29:47 - The crisis of masculinity 34:20 - Christianity and consumerism 43:00 The War in Ukraine 1:02:22 Next Presidential election 1:08:20 - End Credits Links mentioned in interview https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/opinion/men-purpose-respect.html Other resources: David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 22, 2023 • 1h 26min
553: Revival Tourism & Christ vs Christians with Beth Moore
She’s finally here! Bible teacher and author Beth Moore joins Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss her new memoir, her calling, and how she found the courage to speak out against the political idolatry of evangelical leaders in 2016. Moore says she learned how to put her faith in Christ himself rather than in Christian people. Also this week, we discuss the revival at Asbury University that’s attracted 20,000 people to a small town in Kentucky—including a lot of Christian celebrities. Is it a genuine movement of God’s Spirit, or a product of social media spin? Could it be both? Plus, a Christian professor discovers why “Florida is where woke goes to die,” evangelicals rejected Jimmy Carter for being too nice, and the Grinch who stole Easter. Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Kaitlyn and Beth Moore - https://www.patreon.com/posts/79021837/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment Sponsor 0:00 - Sponsor World Relief Join the Path - https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ 0:45 Intro 3:35 - Stolen eggs 8:35 - Professor in trouble 25:47 - Asbury revival 38:51 - Jimmy Carter in hospice Sponsors 49:26 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost 50:32 - Sponsor: Abide abide.com Get 25% off your first year when you text HOLYPOST to 22433 51:50 - Interview Intro 53:15 - Beth Moore https://twitter.com/BethMooreLPM All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://amzn.to/3lWYLFy 59:41 - Calling 1:08:30 - Risking credibility 1:15:00 - Back to 2016 1:25:19- End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: Thief Steals Nearly 200,000 Cadbury Creme Eggs in Britain - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/15/world/europe/cadbury-creme-eggs-theft.html English professor in Florida says university is reviewing his employment following complaint over racial justice unit - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/18/us/palm-beach-atlantic-university-professor-racial-justice-unit/index.html Asbury Professor: We’re Witnessing a ‘Surprising Work of God’ - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/february-web-only/asbury-revival-1970-2023-methodist-christian-holy-spirit.html Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3SmhZQQ The Movie Proposal - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-movie-proposal/id1184573662 Other resources: All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://amzn.to/3lWYLFy Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 15, 2023 • 1h 33min
552 Jesus Gets Us & We Get Data on Christian Nationalists with Kristin Kobes Du Mez Vu
A Christian campaign spent $20 million on two ads during the Super Bowl, but the “He Gets Us” commercials are facing criticism from both the right and left. One side says the ads did not present the gospel. The other says the campaign’s funders are bigots. And everyone is wondering if the $20 million could have been spent more effectively. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn offer their takes. Then, Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in America, but does it all come down to overcoming political idolatry? And a new report from PRRI looks at the sobering data about Christian Nationalism. One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss the data and explain the link between Christian Nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. Plus, a candy factory is sued after workers fall into a chocolate vat. Patreon Bonus: Bonus interview with Shane Claiborne - https://www.patreon.com/posts/78696238/ Bonus interview with Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://www.patreon.com/posts/78701015/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop 0:00 - Intro 3:55 - Workers in a vat of chocolate 6:30 - He gets us 28:46 - American Christianity Sponsor 56:28 - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/ HOLYPOST 57:37 - Interview Intro 59:00 - Kristin Kobes Du Mez https://kristindumez.com/ https://twitter.com/kkdumez 1:11:48 - Christian Nationalism and patriarchy 1:29:15 - Demographics 1:32:36 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment Mars Wrigley fined after two workers fell into a tank of chocolate - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/business/mars-wrigley-chocolate-vat-fine/index.html He Gets Us - https://hegetsus.com American Christianity is due for a revival by Timothy Keller - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/christianity-secularization-america-renewal-modernity/672948/ Links Mentioned in Interview Segment Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3xlmodt Jesus and John Wayne Holy Post Subseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/jesus-john-wayne A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture - https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/ Other resources: Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 10, 2023 • 1h 8min
551 Power, Pacifism, & Being Consistently Pro-Life with Shane Claiborne
What does it mean to be pro-life? Drawing from the words of Jesus, the Apostles, and the early church, Shane Claiborne says most American Christians have gotten it wrong. His new book, “Rethinking Life: Embracing the Sacredness of Every Person,” argues for the value of the unborn, but also for combating poverty, racism, and other dehumanizing evils. He talks with Skye about how the early church’s consistent ethic of life changed once it gained political power. It’s one thing for a tiny church on the margins of society to apply the teachings of Jesus, but how do we apply his words when Christians have control of governments and armies? Skye is joined after the interview by Christian Taylor and Phil Vischer to debrief Claiborne’s challenging ideas. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks… What Will Heaven Be Like? https://www.patreon.com/posts/78474602/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop 0:00 - Sponsor World Relief Join the Path - https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ 0:46- Intro 3:16 - Shane Claiborne Tyre Nichols and policing http://www.shaneclaiborne.com/ https://twitter.com/ShaneClaiborne 13:55 Rethinking Life 28:24 Ethics and power 33:49 Abortion 48:30 Phil, Skye, Christian debrief 1:07:03 End Credits Other resources: Rethinking Life: Embracing the Sacredness of Every Person by Shane Claiborne - https://amzn.to/40EvZZZ The Irresistible Revolution, Updated and Expanded: Living as an Ordinary Radical by Shane Claiborne - https://amzn.to/3x3SDxt Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 8, 2023 • 1h
550 Demons, Democrats, & Dominionists, Oh My!
How did American politics go from a disagreement over policies to become a war between the forces of good and evil? Phil takes us on a journey through the fascinating origins of the New Apostolic Reformation movement as he traces a line from a professor at Fuller Seminary in the 1980s to the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Along the way, we learn how the movement popularized the integration of culture, politics, and spiritual warfare, and shaped the imaginations of generations of evangelicals. Plus, the Chinese spy balloon is a Rorschach test in the sky. And creepy things are happening to mice at a children’s hospital in Cincinnati. Patreon Bonus: Amy Peeler Bonus Interview https://www.patreon.com/posts/78363554/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop 0:00 - Intro 2:32 - Chinese balloon 15:18 - Animal News 20:10 - Charismatic history 53:23 - National Prayer Breakfast 59:40 - End Credits Links mentioned “Three Chinese Balloons Flew Over US During Trump Presidency” - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-06/us-didn-t-know-about-chinese-balloons-during-trump-until-later “Scientists Grew Mini Human Guts Inside Mice” - https://www.wired.com/story/scientists-grew-mini-human-guts-inside-mice/#:~:text=In%20search%20of%20a%20better,of%20the%20human%20immune%20system. Skye’s devotional - https://www.withgoddaily.com/ https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 3, 2023 • 47min
549 MLK, Black Voices & A New Book on Lent w/Esau McCaulley
Phil catches up with friend-of-the-show Esau McCaulley (New Testament Professor, NYT columnist, author of CT Book of the Year Reading While Black) for a wide-ranging conversation. Why do we keep getting MLK wrong? What do Black voices give up in order to be invited into white spaces, and is there a better way? What does McCaulley do to refocus on Jesus? And why did he decide his new book should be about, of all things, Lent?? McCaulley is a deep thinker AND a little bit of a goofball. Which makes his conversations with Phil always worth your time. Patreon Bonus: Click here for info about Holy Post Patreon Book Club patreon.com/holypost Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop 0:00 - Sponsor Join the World Relief giving community The Path worldrelief.org/holypost 0:46 - Intro 2:36 - Esau McCaulley interview 5:43 Martin Luther King Jr. 21:43 Systemic racism 28:01 Black voices in white spaces 41:50 Lent 45:58 End Credits Links mentioned The Kind of Revolution That Martin Luther King Jr. Envisioned by Esau McCaulley https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/opinion/martin-luther-king-woke-reparations.html @esaumccaulley Esaumccaulley.com Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal (Fullness of Time, 1) by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3WXNodo Reading While Black by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3Rzw1ys Josey Johnson's Hair and the Holy Spirit by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3HUgndE https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Feb 1, 2023 • 1h 2min
548 Andy Stanley, Spirit Warriors & The Greatest Threat To Christianity
In a video clip from a sermon, influential megachurch pastor Andy Stanley said gay men and women who remain in the church “have more faith than a lot of you.” The backlash has been swift, but are people misunderstanding his point? And why do some Christians think shifting views on sexuality and gender are the greatest threat to the church, while others believe it’s Christian Nationalism and politics? Who’s right? And what does our view say about us? And a new article explains the rise of Spirit Warriors—the independent Christian “prophets” on YouTube mixing politics and spiritual warfare. Where did they come from, and how much influence do they really have? Patreon Bonus: “Biblical Family 101 | Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess” https://www.patreon.com/posts/78029251/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:46 - Tyre Nichols and tragedies 13:07 - Andy Stanley and threats to the American Sponsor 34:12 - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/ HOLYPOST 35:23 - The rise of spirit warriors 1:01:52 End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: “Andy Stanley says gay churchgoers 'have more faith than a lot of you'” https://www.christianpost.com/news/andy-stanley-gay-churchgoers-have-more-faith-than-a-lot-of-you.html “The Rise of Spirit Warriors on the Christian Right” https://newrepublic.com/article/170027/rise-spirit-warriors-christian-right-politics Jason Rugg’s next venture Oneworldmovie.com Other resources: https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Jan 27, 2023 • 1h 4min
547 French Friday: Selling Out, Gay Wedding Websites, & How People Change
David French shares about his move to The New York Times, and why MAGA Conservatives call him a “sell out” when journalism on the far right is where the big money is found. Then, Skye and David discuss the 303 Creative case at the Supreme Court. Is creating a website a service or is it speech? The answer will determine whether the government may compel some religious businesses to support same-sex weddings. And new research shows diversity training is largely ineffective. Why do we continue to believe pre-packaged programs—both inside and outside the church—are how to change beliefs and behaviors? Sponsor 0:00- Sponsor: Blueprint 1543 PsychForMinistry.com 1:09 - Intro 2:23 - David French to New York Times 16:33 - Diversity Training 41:08 - 303 Creative 1:03:24 - End Credits David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench Links mentioned in interview “David French Joins The Times as an Opinion Columnist” - https://www.nytco.com/press/david-french-joins-the-times-as-an-opinion-columnist/ “The Most Important Thing You Read Today” - https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/frenchpress/the-most-important-thing-you-read-today/ “The Art of Compulsion” - https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/the-art-of-compulsion/ Other resources: https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Jan 25, 2023 • 52min
546 England’s Same-Sex Marriage Compromise & Brazil’s January 6th
The Church of England has decided to not allow same-sex marriages, but it will bless civil same-sex unions. Is it a wise compromise or terrible attempt to dodge a divisive issue? Brazil’s president lost reelection and his conservative Christian supporters stormed the capital. Is the American church exporting its nuttiness? New research from Gallop reveals which professions are the most and least trusted. Where do pastors land on the list? Plus, A.I. is causing layoffs for tech workers, Trump is angry at evangelical leaders, and broken Japanese toilets. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... Why do we pray to God to not lead us into temptation? https://www.patreon.com/posts/77635562/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:56 - News of the Butt 6:42 - Artificial Intelligence 10:18 - Church of England marriage blessing Sponsor 27:43 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost 28:59 - Capitol riots in Brazil 36:35 - Evangelical endorsements 42:29 - Ethics rankings 51:47 - End Credits Links mentioned in news segment: “‘See-through toilets’ malfunction in Shibuya” - https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/general-news/20221217-77930/#:~:text=Tokyo's%20Shibuya%20Ward%20announced%20Friday,see%20inside%20while%20in%20use. “A news site used AI to write articles. It was a journalistic disaster.” - https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/01/17/cnet-ai-articles-journalism-corrections/ “Alphabet cuts 12,000 jobs after pandemic hiring spree, refocuses on AI.” - https://www.reuters.com/business/google-parent-lay-off-12000-workers-memo-2023-01-20/ “Church of England: Gay couples can't marry but will receive 'God's blessing'” - https://www.christianpost.com/news/church-of-england-gay-couples-cant-marry-but-will-receive-gods-blessing.html “Christians represented significant faction of capital rioters in Brazil” - https://religionnews.com/2023/01/17/christians-represented-significant-faction-of-capital-rioters-in-brazil/ “Trump chides onetime evangelical supporters who haven’t endorsed him” - https://religionnews.com/2023/01/17/trump-chides-onetime-evangelical-supporters-who-havent-endorsed-him/ “The New Ethics Rankings Are Out. Where Do Pastors Stand?” - https://churchanswers.com/blog/the-new-ethics-rankings-are-out-where-do-pastors-stand/ Other resources: https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.