

Leaders Worth Knowing Podcast
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The biggest names in the global business of sport sit down with Leaders Editorial Director, James Emmett, and Content Director, David Cushnan.
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Jun 13, 2018 • 46min
Ep 38: Richard Scudamore in conversation with Jimmy Worrall
Leaders CEO Jimmy Worrall sits down with English Premier League Executive Chairman Richard Scudamore.
In a rare and comprehensive one-on-one, Scudamore reflects on his tenure at the top of England’s biggest sports league, and arguably the country’s most visible and successful foreign export.
Since taking charge in 1999, Scudamore has spearheaded an era of unprecedented and extraordinary growth in English football, cementing and extending the Premier League’s status as the number one league in world football. Financial growth has been built largely on the back of pioneering work on the league as a broadcast product. Under Scudamore, domestic rights deals have grown from $900 million for a four-year cycle, to the current three-year domestic deals which are worth over $6.7 billion. International rights in the current cycle are worth another $5.1 billion.
Last week, shortly after concluding a game-changing deal with Amazon that will see the digital retail behemoth move into Premier League broadcasting for the first time, and having reached an agreement with the 20 Premier League teams to tweak the revenue distribution model, Scudamore announced that he would be stepping down from his role at the end of the year.
In the first of a series of conversations between Leaders CEO Jimmy Worrall and the most senior figures in world sport, Scudamore sat down for a recording of the Leaders Podcast in the final week of the Premier League season, a few weeks before the announcements were made.
On the conversational agenda:
The future of media consumption and why ‘moderated content’ will remain compelling and valuable;
The Premier League’s commitment to social intervention and community programming;
The league’s ambitions in esports;
The potential consequences of Brexit for English football;
The skillsets required to keep 20 Premier League teams together, all ‘equally dissatisfied’;
The benefits of government and media scrutiny;
The leaders Scudamore most admires and his advice for his younger self.

May 22, 2018 • 51min
Ep 37: Digital dreams and monetisation streams
Leaders Week New York kicked off this year with the SAP Sports Forum at the software giant's Hudson Yards HQ.
On the agenda: the technological revolution in sport and how various platforms and applications are shifting the paradigm in both sports business and sports performance.
On the podcast, a roll-call of insight from a catalogue of sports industry innovators, including:
- Alicia Tillman, CMO, SAP - on her plans to use sport to catapult SAP into the top ten most valuable brands in the world;
- Benno Ruwe, Head of Partnerships, Americas, FC Bayern Munich - on how to identify the 'golden customer';
- Fredi Bobic, Executive Board Member, Eintracht Frankfurt - on how data systems helped the club win this year's DFB Pokal;
- Sean Kundu, VP, New Ventures, San Francisco 49ers - on how data insights have saved millions of dollars at the Levi's Stadium;
- Neda Tabatabaie, VP, Business Intelligence, San Jose Sharks - on retention modelling, insight dissemination and more.

May 17, 2018 • 48min
Ep 36: Oris Stuart, Patti Clarke and Debra Sercy
How do sports entities approach diversity and inclusion in the workplace? What's working, what isn't - and how can you prove it?
Episode 36 of the Leaders Podcast features a comprehensive discussion on diversity and inclusion across the sports, media and marketing industries.
The panel comprises three of the most sophisticated practitioners in the field:
- Oris Stuart, Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer at the NBA, which has one of the most developed and integrated approaches to inclusivity in world sport;
- Patti Clarke, Chief Talent Officer at the Havas Group, the global marketing and communications giant that employs some 20,000 people across the globe;
- Debra Sercy, Joint-CEO of Grace Blue in the Americas, the executive search firm that specialises in marketing and advertising talent, and now has a division focused on sport.
Also on the agenda:
- What's the difference between diversity and inclusion and why is that distinction important to make?
- How do you attach business metrics to inclusivity, and how do you build those metrics into tangible processes for recruitment and development?
- How should you approach cognitive bias, and what are the best questions to ask in interviews?
- What does best practice look like, and conversely, what should you avoid?
Recorded in New York, and helmed by the Leaders Performance Institute's Saira Jahangir, Patti Clarke kicks things off with an update on a global initiative Havas is rolling out across its regional offices.

Apr 30, 2018 • 51min
Ep 35: Alex Willis & Joel Seymour-Hyde
What does leadership in the sports industry of 2018 look like? How do you maintain a working culture that prizes dedication and industry but fosters creativity and a sense of flexibility too?
Joining Leaders' James Emmett and David Cushnan on the podcast this week are Wimbledon's Alex Willis and Octagon's Joel Seymour-Hyde, both previous honourees at the Leaders Under 40 Awards.
Willis is Head of Communications, Content & Digital at the AELTC, while Seymour-Hyde is Head of UK at agency giant Octagon. As well as a focus on leadership in sport - the good, the bad, and the ugly - and what the most effective modern-day working practices look like, Willis and Seymour-Hyde, give their perspectives on:
- Sports marketing and sponsorship trends and the integration of content into all manner of deals;
- Rights holders as brands, and the effort to have brand partners singing the same tune but with different voices;
- GDPR and what a new era of data protection and sensitivity means for the sports industry;
- The 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia: the positioning challenges associated with hosting the tournament in the country; how to activate partnerships in a range of categories; and what Wimbledon does to respond to a World Cup year;
Nominations for the Leaders Under 40 Class of 2018 close on 25 May. Go on - get yourself a gong.

Apr 13, 2018 • 53min
Ep 34: Patrick Pierce
Patrick Pierce is Vice President of Marketing Partnerships at Etihad Airways, and oversees the Abu Dhabi carrier's sponsorship activities across sport, culture and entertainment.
Standout partnerships currently include deals with Manchester City, the Abu Dhabi Formula One Grand Prix, the Abu Dhabi Tour cycling race, Major League Soccer, the Special Olympics, and the Washington Wizards and Capitals NBA and NHL teams.
Chicagoan Pierce joined Etihad in 2015, having previously held sponsorship roles with McDonald's Allstate, and Aon - where he put together the high profile shirt sponsorship deal with Manchester United.
On the conversational agenda:
- the differences between the marketing and partnerships approach at Manchester United and Manchester City;
- striking a balance between pursuing pure commercial objectives through partnerships and building Abu Dhabi as a global destination;
- Pierce's approach to activation tactics;
- forging a USP in a competitive regional airline market;
- the best way to approach Etihad with marketing opportunities;
- the airline's marketing obligation to the Emirate and how it makes its sponsorship decisions;
- Etihad's innovative role as both sponsor and rights holder, and the new set of rights that Pierce and his team are marketing.
Pierce is one of the industry leaders taking a role in the judging process for the Leaders Sports Awards. Categories include content creation, on-screen experience, live experience, sponsorship and innovation. Nominations close in May. Go on - get yourself a gong.

Mar 21, 2018 • 47min
Ep 33: Inside Chinese Football - part ii
Can the Chinese Super League move from flashy transfer spending to sustainable investment and full-house attending? How does the league intend to play its part in youth development across Chinese soccer? And what, exactly, is holding back a nation of 1.4 billion from becoming a genuinely viable and lucrative pay-TV market? In the second of a Chinese football double-header, episode 33 of the Leaders podcast will address all of this, and more.
The Leaders Sport Business Summit will return to Beijing for its second edition on 25th and 26th July this year, and the development of the Chinese football industry, and the challenges and opportunities inherent in it, will form a key part of the agenda.
In this episode of the Leaders podcast, new Chinese Super League (CSL) GM Alex Dong, and Zhao Jun, the CEO of the CSM agency which holds the rights to China's top-tier soccer league, give their inside takes on how far the sport has come in the country, and the direction of travel it finds itself on.
The CSL is, by most objective measures, the number one soccer league in Asia, and its youthful new GM has grand plans for to propel it to a a dominant position. Zhao Jun, meanwhile, is the woman credited with catalysing a period of intense growth in CSL, having signed a deal to take five years' worth of CSL commercial rights for 8 billion Yuan ($1.2 billion) in 2015. That deal turned out to be overly ambitious, but after a period of intense renegotiation, a new agreement worth 11 billion Yuan ($1.7 billion) over ten years was reached in the off season before the current campaign.
For more details on the Leaders Sport Business Summit, visit www.leadersinsport.com

Mar 16, 2018 • 39min
Ep 32: Inside Chinese football - part i
Just what exactly are the transfer rules in the Chinese Super League? Is another global player acquisition frenzy around the corner? Will others follow where Wang Jianlin has led in moving money away from foreign assets and back to domestic sports entities? Episode 32 of the Leaders podcast will have a stab at addressing all these questions, and more.
The Chinese Super League has come a long way since its foundation in 2004. With China's football reforms having called for a tangible split between commercial and logistical operations at the league and its governance overseers at the Chinese Football Association, the decision-making process across Chinese football is nevertheless still fairly labyrinthine and opaque.
In this episode of the Leaders podcast, Beijing-based journalist and presenter Mark Dreyer - the man behind the China Sports Insider sports business news and analysis site - gives his first-hand view on the development of Chinese football, and the direction of travel for sport and sports investments in China.
On the agenda:
- Wang Jianlin and Wanda's return to Dalian;
- Transfer business, player tax, and how it works;
- Decision making, and how it does and doesn't happen;
- Why Chinese players tend to be late developers;
- President Xi Jinping's move to scrap presidential term limits and what it means for sport.

Feb 23, 2018 • 28min
Ep 31: Amy Brooks
The NBA is so firmly focused on innovation - in the experiences it offers to fans, in its digital engagement strategies, and in its own business practices - that in November 2017 it appointed someone specifically to oversee it.
That someone is Amy Brooks, an NBA executive since 2005, and now Chief Innovation Officer and President of the NBA's Team Marketing and Business Operations unit.
In this episode of the Leaders Podcast, Brooks discusses her role and responsibilities and pinpoints some of the most innovative practices being undertaken across the league.
Also on the agenda:
- The advance of technology and league's open-minded approach;
- Focusing on the core when it comes to new business opportunities, but why that core is not simply sports;
- Why the NBA's global fanbase requires a tech-first media and communications strategy;
- The jersey patch sponsorship inventory and how it's being used to further the fan experience;
- The NBA G-League-Twitch deal and what it might mean for the future of basketball broadcasts.

Feb 9, 2018 • 43min
Ep 30: Elevate good times, come on
What's the biggest misconception about PyeongChang 2018? Will NBC's Total Audience Delivery revolutionise Olympic broadcast monetisation? Why have the San Francisco 49ers joined forces with HBSE and CAA to form a new agency? What distinguishes from competitors like Legends?
All these questions, plus many more besides, are tackled in the latest episode of the Leaders Podcast, a double-header featuring SportsBusiness Journal Olympics reporter Ben Fischer, and San Francisco 49ers President and Elevate Sports Ventures CEO Al Guido.
In part one, we put PyeongChang 2018 under the microscope. On the agenda:
- the key storylines to watch over the course of the Winter Olympics;
- the evolution of the IOC's TOP sponsorship programme;
- what NBC needs for these Games to count as a success;
- the Olympic Channel evaluated;
In part two, Al Guido talks us through the launch of Elevate Sports Ventures, explains why the time was right and how the offering is unique, and gives his own SWOT analysis on the agency he's just launched.

Feb 1, 2018 • 0sec
Ep 29: Ed Horne
Recorded in frosty New York City during Super Bowl week, this week’s episode takes the NFL’s annual glitz and glamathon as its central theme.
Ed Horne, Executive Vice President of Endeavor Global Marketing, the cultural marketing agency that includes aspects of WME and IMG’s shared network, is a busy man this week, activating around the Super Bowl for major brand clients including Marriott, Visa and AB InBev.
Horne is not your average marketer – an ice hockey referee in the NHL and the Winter Olympics in his younger days, he got the sports marketing bug when he snuck his way into the hospitality tents at the Calgary Games in 1988 and realised that the companies he was cadging off were using sport as a genuine platform for business.
As an executive at the NFL, he negotiated the first ever halftime show sponsorship with Frito Lay, and then later, at the NHL, he was central to the negotiations that saw league players allowed to compete in the Olympics.
On the agenda:
- Marriott's Super Bowl stadium-hotel experience and the evolution of experiential activation;
- Is the Super Bowl at commercial saturation point?
- Politics in sports marketing campaigns, the Pepsi protest ad, and why tackling contentious issues might not be a bad idea.