

Leaders Worth Knowing Podcast
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The biggest names in the global business of sport sit down with Leaders Editorial Director, James Emmett, and Content Director, David Cushnan.
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Jan 23, 2020 • 55min
Behind the scenes at Leaders with Sheffield United owner Prince Abdullah
David Cushnan and James Emmett are in Abu Dhabi to wrap up two days of the Leaders Sport Business Summit in the capital of the UAE, including interviews with Sheffield United owner HRH Prince Abdullah bin Musaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and Abu Dhabi Cricket CEO Matthew Boucher, and discussion around the developing sporting investment strategies across the MENA region, innovation in golf, cricket and esports, and word of a potential new football investor taking a City Football Group-style portfolio approach to club acquisition.
More reflections on the summit can be found here.

Jan 9, 2020 • 49min
Peter Hutton vs John Skipper
Listen in on a conversation between Facebook and DAZN.
Facebook's Director of Global Live Sports Partnerships and Programming Peter Hutton sat down for a conversation with DAZN Executive Chairman John Skipper in front of a main stage audience at the Leaders Sport Business Summit in London in October (conversation begins at 4.28).
Unscripted, unfiltered, and unmoderated, the session provided a unique insight into the minds of two of the executives - and two of the organisations - doing most to shape the future of sports broadcasting.
The two men have had their hands at the wheel of the sports media industry through decades of unprecedented growth - Hutton in leadership positions at Eurosport, MP & Silva, Fox Sports International and ESPN Star, and Ten Sports, and Skipper through a storied career at ESPN.
They now find themselves shaping the strategy and execution of the sports broadcasting operations at two organisations that promise to change the fundamental model of sports content distribution and consumption. At Facebook, Hutton insists the sports play is as a "business solutions provide". DAZN, meanwhile, is a "pure play OTT streaming service" and Skipper says proudly that its intention is "absolutely to disrupt the current world of pay-TV hegemony over sports rights".
On the conversational agenda:
- How they find themselves in their current roles;
- The key differences between Facebook and DAZN and the 'traditional' sports broadcasters;
- The rights landscape, who's buying what, and why;
- The rise of Google, Facebook, and Amazon;
- The funding and monetisation models of the future;
- Changing consumer demands and how to meet them with new technology.

Oct 10, 2019 • 40min
Behind the scenes at Leaders, 2019
James Emmett and David Cushnan are joined by SBJ Publisher and Executive Editor Abe Madkour to reflect on a busy Leaders Sport Business Summit, with discussion around John Skipper and DAZN, Peter Hutton and Facebook, sports content trends, the NFL, the latest stadium technology and other highlights. Also includes an interview with W Series driver Sarah Moore.

Oct 9, 2019 • 9min
Preview - Leaders Sport Business Summit, 2019 - day 2
Everything you need to know about where to go, what to see, who to hear from, and what to do after that at day one of the Leaders Sport Business Summit, 2019, at Twickenham - 9/10/19.

Oct 8, 2019 • 11min
Preview - Leaders Sport Business Summit, 2019 - day 1
Everything you need to know about where to go, what to see, who to hear from, and what to do after that at day one of the Leaders Sport Business Summit, 2019, at Twickenham - 8/10/19.

Oct 1, 2019 • 47min
Me & my mentor: Alex Willis & Caroline Taylor
Wimbledon Head of Communications, Content, and Digital Alex Willis in conversation with her mentor, IBM Global Markets CMO Caroline Taylor.
Episode 63 of the Leaders Sport Business Podcast features the first instalment in a new mini-series of podcasts: Me & my mentor - a series of conversations that get to the heart of mentor-mentee relationships across the sports industry. A recurring theme in the Leaders Meet: Diversity series, mentorship is acknowledged as an increasingly effective personal and professional development, though one that is only scantly understood.
In this first episode, Wimbledon's Alex Willis talks to her mentor, Caroline Taylor OBE, CMO of Global Markets at IBM, a long-time Wimbledon sponsor (conversation begins at 13:07).
Willis is one of the leading lights in a new generation of sports industry digital and marketing specialists. She began her career as a journalist, before joining the All England Lawn Tennis Club, initially as Digital Content Editor, in 2011. Taylor is an international marketing expert, and currently looks after IBM's global marketing function. She first joined the computing giant in 1997, and has played an active role in the evolving mentoring programmes within the organisation. She currently maintains 18 formal mentorship relationships.
On the agenda:
- What mentoring means;
- How the mentoring relationship works in practice;
- The concept of reverse mentorship;
- Confidence, where it comes from, and permission to be believed in;
- The difference between mentoring men and mentoring women;
- Why your significant other isn't necessarily the most effective mentor.

Sep 12, 2019 • 55min
Kate Bosomworth
***Special Offer Alert*** We're offering 19% off passes to Leaders Week to any woman who wants to attend the summit this year, as part of our commitment to championing a more inclusive sports industry. We also want to recognise male executives who share this commitment, and will extend the discount to any man who books on with a woman. Just visit https://leadersinsport.com/leaders-week-london/buy-your-pass/ and use the code LEADERSPODCAST when prompted.
Episode 62 of the Leaders Sport Business Podcast features a conversation with M&C Saatchi CMO Kate Bosomworth (interview begins at 12:50). Bosomworth founder her own PR agency, KTB PR, in 2003 and through a growth based acquisition and merger strategy, sold the agency first to the Writtle Group in 2012 to take over Speed Communications, then for a second time to AIM listed Mission Marketing Group in November 2014, developing a strong reputation for PR and communications strategy work across rights holder organisations and FMCG brands.
A board member at Sport England from 2013 until this year, Bosomworth spearheaded the breakthrough 'This Girl Can' campaign, which launched in 2015 and is responsible for inspiring three million women and girls in the UK to take up physical activity.
She joined M&C Saatchi in January 2018, swapping the sports industry for the advertising world.
On the conversational agenda:
- The evolution of the M&C Saatchi culture and why entrepreneurs have been invited into the agency;
- Her brief as CMO: diversifying the client portfolio and confounding assumptions;
- Why the Coca-Cola Premier League campaign was ‘joyous’
- This Girl Can: the real impact of a breakthrough campaign, what it needs to do next and why it needs to keep its edge;
- The f*ck yeah-ometer and how it works;
- The surge of momentum behind women’s sport and the milestones that have marked it;
- The work that still needs to be done in the drive towards parity;
- Advertising industry vs the sports business – the parallels;
- ‘Who is not in the room?’ – the question that any organisation needs to ask itself;
- Why visionary change-makers are required at the top of sports organisations;
- Motivations, role models, and mentors.

Aug 13, 2019 • 57min
John Luck
As Luck would have it: How Carabao intends to become the number one energy drinks brand in the UK | The UK launch of the Athletic and its role as a paid-content market test | Big moves for Delia Bushell, Joanna Adams, and Jaymee Messler.
Episode 61 of the Leaders Sport Business Podcast sees James Emmett and David Cushnan discuss the UK launch of the Athletic, its role as a litmus test for non-live paid sports content; and the new roles for industry innovators Delia Bushell, Joanna Adams, and Jaymee Messler; before introducing a conversation with Intercarabao CMO John Luck (at 16:27).
Luck joined the energy drinks company in 2016, following stints in the marketing teams of Coca-Cola, Time Out, and Duchy Originals among others. Part of a small team tasked with launching the Thai brand in the UK market, Luck has overseen almost every aspect of Carabao's initial UK launch to its position, just three and a half years later, as the seventh biggest energy drinks company in the UK and stocked in every major retailer.
The brand is a giant in its native Thailand, where it is a $2 billion listed company and the market leader by some distance from Red Bull. Its ambition, which Luck is attempted to facilitate, is to become number one in every market it operates in. Part of how it intends to do that is through sports sponsorship.
On the conversational agenda:
- The process of launching an FMCG product in the UK in an ultra-competitive sector, from product through to positioning through to marketing platforms;
- Why Carabao has succeeded where the 700-plus energy drinks brands that tried to launch in the UK before it failed;
- Aed Carabao, the 'Thai Bob Marley' who founded the product;
- The nuts and bolts of Carabao's sponsorship deals with Chelsea and the EFL;
- Why the Carabao Cup draws will remain a staple of the brand's impactful activation arsenal;
- The three lessons Luck has learned about sports marketing since joining Carabao.

Jul 31, 2019 • 46min
Behind the scenes at Leaders Shanghai
The Premier League in China | Tencent and PP Sports spend big on NBA and Premier League rights | Sky Sun on Fosun's ambition for Wolves | Rowan Simons on the model for growth in Chinese football | Scott O'Neil on making the most of an NBA trip to China | David Nivelle on the challenge and achievement of a FIBA World Cup in China.
The Leaders Sport Business Summit rolled into China for a third annual edition this July, hosted, for the first time, in Shanghai, and coinciding with the Premier League's Asia Trophy visit.
Leaders Head of Content David Cushnan was on hand to capture some of the sights and sounds, lining up a quartet of conversations behind the scenes of the two-day event.
On the agenda:
- Sky Sun (15:44) - The Wolverhampton Wanderers Director on ownership group Fosun International's ambitious five-year plan for the club; the launch of a new club megastore in Shanghai and 400 branded products to go with it; and the lifestyle brand vision that would put the Wolves brand alongside the likes of the New York Yankees.
- Rowan Simons (21:28) - The China ClubFootball Founder on football culture in China and the dangers of putting international brands before the growth of the game.
- Scott O'Neil (29:36) - The Harris Blitzer Sports & Entertainment CEO on making the most of an executive trip to China, how to take learnings and leads back to the US; and what the remarkable offseason of NBA player movement means for the Sixers.
- David Nivelle (42:03) - The Head of FIBA Marketing on gearing up for the FIBA World Cup, the first global, multi-city event to be hosted by China.

Jul 1, 2019 • 0sec
Alistair Kirkwood
The NFL in London | Leaders in Shanghai.
Alistair Kirkwood has been the MD of NFL UK since 2006, and was a key member of the senior executive team that brought the first league game to London in 2007.
In episode 59 of the Leaders Sport Business Podcast, Kirkwood reflects on the growth the league has undergone internationally over the course of his career, explains the why and how the league is launching the 'NFL Academy' in north London, and gives a firm response to the oft-repeated question: when will the NFL launch a franchise in London?
Elsewhere in the conversation:
- Inside the NFL's UK office;
- Building the calendar out into the off-season;- The NFL Academy - what, where, who, how and why - inspired by the fact that the league will be playing in Tottenham into the next decade;- Teaching NFL values, as well as American football skills'- The new Tottenham stadium and why the NFL-spec build will be transformative for the league's future visits to London'- The current thinking on the NFL's ambitions to operate a franchise from London;- NFL fandom in the UK, and why if you're over 30, you're not between the NFL's crosshairs.