
Love & Life with Dr. Karin & Pastor Elliott
Love & Life is your place for conversations grounded in psych research, psychotherapy, and Biblical truth to help you THRIVE in love and life!
Join psychologist Karin Anderson Abrell, Ph.D. and pastor and psychotherapist Elliott Anderson, M.A., as they focus on relationships and how to flourish therein with a holistic approach to emotional and psychological well-being, recognizing we only thrive when we nourish each of these key domains—Mind, Body, and Spirit. Together they bring over 60 years of counseling experience and academic expertise to each podcast discussion and interview.
Latest episodes

Oct 10, 2024 • 44min
Pandemic of the Unvaccinated? New Data on COVID Hospitalizations with David Wayne Ep. 321
Psychiatric nurse and friend of the program, David Wayne, is back to discuss what he recently shared on Children’s Health Defense’s CHD.TV.
In addition to nursing, Dave has a background in data analytics. Throughout the COVID era, he tried to make sense of the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated hospitalizations—the numbers weren’t adding up.
Databases weren’t talking to each other. Default modes labeled patients as unvaccinated when in MANY cases, these patients had taken the COVID shot.
For those of us who endured derision and scorn for our “selfish” and “irresponsible” choice to abstain from injecting ourselves with a rushed-to-market, mRNA product with no longitudinal studies confirming its safety and efficacy—well for us, these numbers matter.
It matters that, in fact, more COVID hospitalizations occurred among the vaccinated.
It matters that the shot neither prevented infection nor stopped transmission.
And, it matters that a recent study from the Cleveland Clinic found the more jabs and boosters you took, the MORE likely you are to get COVID.
Dave and I discuss the appalling lack of science guiding our government’s COVID response and the tyrannical jab mandates the administration forced upon us—we’re still astounded.
If you feel the same—and even if you don’t!—Please join us as our favorite hospital insider reveals what was really going on!
Citation:
Cleveland Clinic Studies
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.04.27.24306378v2
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v5
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Oct 3, 2024 • 50min
Masculinity in the Midst of a Father Wound with Bradley Oberrieder Ep. 320
Growing up is tough. Growing up with a father wound is even tougher.
As we continue our series on masculinity, we’re addressing the complexities of father wounds on sons.
How do boys grow into men when their model for manhood has been abusive or absent?
One of Elliott’s mentees, Bradley Oberrieder, joins us to share his journey—how his father abandoned his family just as Bradley was moving from adolescence to young adulthood.
How do you step into manhood when you no longer respect your dad—your model of manhood?
If you’ve experienced a father wound—or you’re dating a man who has—please join us for an honest and hopeful account of masculinity in the midst of a father wound.
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Sep 26, 2024 • 45min
Rescue the Republic: When BFFs Disagree as to How We Do This Ep. 319
Dan and I are heading to Rescue the Republic in DC this weekend!
I wanted to share Rescue the Republic’s 8 pillars with Elliott to hear his thoughts.
War is always the last resort vs. Military Industrial Complex
Sanctify/recodify informed consent vs. Medical Industrial Complex
Banish state media control, surveillance and propaganda vs. Censorship Industrial Complex
Enact a rational boarder policy vs. Immigration Industrial Complex
End lawfare and abuse of the judicial system vs. Injustice Industrial Complex
Secure monetary freedom vs. Finance Industrial Complex
Restore family sovereignty vs. Developmental Industrial Complex
Return to truth-seeking and open dialogue vs. Academic Industrial Complex
For most of our lives, Americans took for granted the values that underpin these pillars. We agreed on these tenets. They were givens.
Not so much anymore.
Rescue the Republic will bring together Americans from all walks of life and political persuasions. It’s a unity coalition led by Dr. Bret Weinstein (evolutionary biologist), RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and others who were formerly on the left but now feel politically homeless.
Elliott shares his thoughts on the movement. What does the Bible say about these pillars?
I still believe Americans can find common ground. Praying for unity. Praying for peace. Praying for freedom.
If you want to rescue the republic, too, please join us in DC or at least, join us for this conversation!
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Sep 19, 2024 • 31min
Testosterone-Laden Men—A Bad Thing? Ep. 318
Recently, I heard a term, “testosteroni.” It was used in a pejorative manner to describe “testosterone-laden” men. In the conversation, these testosterone-laden men were pitted against a kinder, gentler model of manhood.
I wasn’t sure just what they were getting at. But, I had questions.
Is testosterone inherently a bad thing?
Does it cause problems for men?
How does it impact our perception of masculinity in general?
Does testosterone end up being a disadvantage in our modern world?
Why cast aspersions at a hormone? (One which women also possess, by the way).
I wanted to hear Elliott’s thoughts about Testosteronis vs. Beta Males.
We delve into all this and more as we continue our “What is a Man?” series. Please join us!
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Sep 12, 2024 • 32min
My BF Says I’m Trying to Control Him but He’s Going Out Drinking with Other Women… Ep. 317
Q: I’m 34 and dating a 44-year-old man who rents out a room to a cutie 21-year-old for a very fair price and sometimes, he goes out with her and her friends and buys their drinks.
I’m not sure how I feel about that. He believes it’s socially acceptable but I disagree and see it as predatory. But I also want to be understanding and I’m unsure if I’m being insecure and unreasonable about the situation.
A: Join us to hear our response to our listener’s question!
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Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 14min
Pharma Dissidents: Abandoning the Medical Model of Mental Health with David Wayne Ep. 316
As a psychiatric nurse, David Wayne believed wholeheartedly in the veracity of medical research and the necessity of pharmaceutical interventions—until he saw how ineffective and at times, harmful, these “treatments” were.
He began to question his profession—especially psychiatry’s pharmaceutical “solution” for every mental health concern.
Then COVID descended, and because he chose not to inject an experimental substance into his body, he got fired from his hospital.
To support others losing their jobs, he attended protests against the COVID shot mandates. He found himself alongside others who shared his values around health freedom. But, he was surprised to learn many of these dissidents were people of faith.
He discovered they weren’t at all “anti science.” They just knew science must be questioned—always! And, science doesn’t belong solely to government officials or three letter agencies. Furthermore, these dissidents put their faith in God, as opposed to Fauci.
As a psychiatric nurse, David had questioned the tenets of his profession. Now, he began to question his understanding of God and faith.
COVID profoundly changed all of us in various ways. Four years into the COVID era, more and more psychologists and psychiatrists are questioning Pharma’s hold on our profession—not to mention its regulatory capture of governmental institutions such as the FDA and CDC.
If you’re waking up to the Pharma cartel, this episode’s for you!
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Aug 29, 2024 • 38min
How Can We Be Friends if You Vote for _______? Ep. 315
The election is upon us and the political divide—well, it’s probably better described as a chasm.
So, we weren’t surprised to receive this question from a listener:
“I’ve seen this rhetoric start to pop up on social media, leading into the election: ‘Don’t tell someone you love them, and then vote for someone who will hurt them.’
How do we deal with this type of divisive statement?”
Our listener also indicated she’s single and in her 40s. She’s an only child, so her friends are absolutely family to her.
Yet, if she votes for a particular candidate, her friends believe she’s choosing to hurt them.
I had a lot of thoughts about this. Like our listener, I have many friends who take issue with my choices around such issues. Most of these friends won’t talk to me about why I hold these values.
Many people would recommend we steer clear of these topics. Then again, if we don’t talk about what matters most to us, how can we have deep, authentic relationships?
Elliott and I share how we would respond to a friend who asked us, “How can you say you love me, yet you’re voting for someone who hurts me?”
Elliott brings in the spiritual—“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
I postulate that the “powers that be” gin up “culture wars” to keep us attacking each other, rather than recognizing how the ruling class//oligarchs continue to oppress us.
If you’re struggling to navigate political divisiveness this election season, please join us!
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Aug 23, 2024 • 41min
Abortions at the DNC: How This Relates to Our What is a Man? Series Ep. 314
Elliott didn’t know about this—I’m way more into current events than he is—so I decided to inform him during our episode. I wanted him to share his thoughts as a therapist, husband, father, and perhaps most importantly, as a pastor.
Abortion is a heavy, sensitive, and painful, subject—at least, it used to be. Clinton claimed it should be, “Safe, legal, and rare.”
Now women are encouraged to, “Shout Your Abortion!”
What’s going on?
I share some theories as to how we’ve arrived at this place—views around Second and Third Wave Feminism and how women have fought for a sexual revolution that fails to serve us, but works for men just fine.
We integrate our question, “What is a Man?” throughout the conversation. Elliott asserts that men may have failed women which also relates to the current landscape of women displaying their fielty to a political party by killing their unborn children.
Join us for another Love & Life Current Events episode and hear Elliott’s og story of getting kicked out of Social Studies during an 8th grade current events unit! 😉
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Aug 15, 2024 • 33min
What is a Man? Part 3: Theology of Man Ep. 313
Today Pastor Elliott and Producer Tim continue our series on "What is a Man?"
In his work as a counselor and pastor Elliott has developed a thesis for what he believes makes up the theology of a man based on the book of Genesis.
Specifically Elliott dives into the following topics:
Accountability
Responsibility
Sacrifice
Interdependence
And how men facility all of these topics into their lives personally, relationally, and ultimately into their communities at large.
We hope this episode will provide insights into your personal relationships and lead you to a life of thriving in your mind, body, and spirit!
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Aug 9, 2024 • 43min
What is a Man? Part 2: Female Boxing Controversy at The Olympics Ep. 312
As you’ve likely heard, last week Olympic boxer Imane Khelif beat Angela Carini in a bout that lasted only 46 seconds.
Carini said of Khelif’s punch to her nose, “I’ve never been hit so hard in my life.”
Controversy ensued because just last year, Khelif had been disqualified from competing in the World Boxing Championships in the women’s category because of testosterone levels that were higher than permissible.
In prior Love & Life episodes, we’ve addressed the touchy subject of men competing against women. We interviewed Paula Scanlan (former UPenn swimmer) in episode 303, author Kara Dansky (The Abolition of Sex: How the “Transgender” Agenda Harms Women and Girls) in episode 245, and radical feminist Isabella Malbin in episode 193.
With the current controversy still brewing, Elliott and I wanted to share our thoughts. We speak to realities of developmental psychology and biology, along with a Biblical vantage point.
We tackle two questions many people currently struggle to answer or would prefer to avoid, “What is a man?” and “What is a woman?”
Elliott and I start with basic biology—if you have XX, chromosomes you are female. If you have XY chromosomes, you are male.
That being said, in some very rare cases of genetic anomalies, determining a person’s sex can be more complicated. Intersexed individuals (or, what is now known as DSD—Disorders of Sex Development) make up 0.018% (Sax, 2022).
We strive to approach this topic from a place of love. As a husband, father, and big brother, Elliott wants to protect girls and women. As a former female athlete, aunt, and stepmother, I want to protect women’s sports and the future of womanhood itself.
Join us for a conversation we need to have, yet many avoid.
Sax L. How common is intersex? a response to Anne Fausto-Sterling. J Sex Res. 2002 Aug;39(3):174-8. doi: 10.1080/00224490209552139. PMID: 12476264.
Fun fact! The author of the article above appeared on Love & Life in episodes 33 and 34!
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