And She Spoke: Women. Money. Power.

We often define our limits by what we think we’re capable of. And for many women in business, structural barriers—both internal and external—play a big role in how we create these fences for ourselves.For centuries, we’ve been taught that we need to rely on other members of society to make financial decisions for us, and that our value comes from our bodies rather than our minds. This reflects in how much money we think we deserve in exchange for our services. But, that’s where the beauty of owning our own businesses lies. Why? Because we’re the ones in charge. We’re the ones making the calls, setting our prices, and running the show. In this week’s episode, we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of how the prevailing system dictates our money-mindsets as women, why the culture of undercharging is detrimental to the entrepreneurial landscape, and why we should rethink our capabilities with reference to money.Here’s what you can expect from this episode:The difference between your worth and the worth of your programs and offerings4 subconscious patriarchal beliefs that affect the way we price thingsHow being a business owner helps you minimize the structural financial barriers The undercharging-culture, and why it needs to changeWhy many women don't even trust themselves with moneyThe need to understand what your service is worthWhat happens when you quit playing the people-pleasing gameWhy it’s important to charge honest rates even if you don’t “need” the moneyWe’ve got some real-talk and super staggering statistics in store for you with this one. And we’re also extremely excited to be unveiling our new project, 8333!If you’re as interested in seeing a shift in the culture of pricing as we are, you’re going to love this talk. So get comfy, and tune in!RESOURCESTheposterclub.comSeth Godin’s Blog Post “Superfamous”This Week’s Joy:Sandy’s current joy is theposterclub.com! It’s a website that features beautiful, eclectic art pieces from artists in Denmark who take inspiration from Scandinavian and minimalist concepts.This Week’s Hustle: What’s fueling Jenni’s hustle these days is Seth Godin’s latest blog post,“Superfamous”. It dives into the true purpose of transformative work, and how it’s slowly being marred by the creator’s desire to achieve fame.This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

As women and business owners, our relationship with money is complex. We’re constantly challenged by our internalized scarcity mindset, the wage gap, and financial barriers in a system that wasn’t designed to benefit us.But money, at the end of the day, is a resource at your disposal4. And if you choose to channel it as an agent of power, freedom, and equity, that’s exactly what it’ll bring you!That’s just one of the exciting concepts we’re discussing in this week’s episode!In September, a panel of five female founders got together for our annual Thrive Online fireside chat, Women, Money, and Power. We spoke candidly about the power of money and influence, feminist businesses, and finance. And this week’s episode is the complete and unadulterated discussion from that very panel!We’re extremely proud to present Kelly Diels (Feminist marketing teacher), Emily Howe (Founder of The American Association of Corporate Gender Strategists, Claire Wasserman (Founder of Ladies Get Paid), Naomi Scott Clark (Feminist marketing coach), and Amina AlTai (Leadership and mindfulness coach) as our guests for this episode!Here’s what you can expect from this one:Money as an agent of freedom and power Building an empire versus building power (and sharing it!)What a “feminist business” really meansWhy pushing past our internalized income ceilings is activismScarcity and abundance as gendered teachingsOrigin stories of some of today’s most influential female-owned movement-building businesses Defining “influence” and claiming it’s powerAcknowledging your inner power, cultivating a practice of self-trust, and knowing what you’re worthWhat makes this episode so special is the honesty with which every panelist brings her own financial experiences to the table. No matter where you are in your own financial journey, you’ll find yourself feeling a little more motivated and well-informed once the headphones come off. So cozy up, and tune in—this is the only girl-talk you need this week!RESOURCESKelly Diels’WebsiteInstagramEmily HoweWebsiteInstagramAmerican Association of Corporate Gender StrategistsClaire WassermanLadies Get PaidInstagramNaomi ClarkWebsiteInstagramAmina AlTaiWebsiteInstagram

Online business is a blessing. It’s not like we didn’t already know that (we’ve been in the industry for over a decade after all), but we’ve gained a newfound appreciation for it this past year. Not only did we have the freedom to take vacations, but we were also able to leverage our online business to grow, earn consistent revenue, and help other incredible entrepreneurs do the same thing. But on a more personal level, it’s allowed us to make some major purchases that have either brought us joy, made our lives easier, or both, which is exactly what we’ll be discussing in today’s episode (spoiler alert: get ready for conversations about a “work condo” and an airstream)So, join us as we talk about how online business has helped us fulfill our money-based goals, how spending the big bucks in your personal life can be a fantastic side-hustle opportunity, and how you can reform your mindset around big purchases. Here’s what you can expect from this week’s episode:How a little money can solve a lot of problemsWhy we’re super aware of what are brains are thinking and doing now as opposed to years agoHow online business has enabled us to do so much even in times of chaosWhy our purchases are solid, long-term investments tooOur contrasting money behaviors and why we’re starting to adopt the motto ‘just throw a little money at it!’So, if you’re on the fence about getting into online business OR about that next big investment, this episode may just be what you need!Resources:Hey MarvelousHey Marvelous - InstagramHey Marvelous - Inner CircleThis Week’s Joys: Since we’ve just been back from holiday, we thought it would only be fitting to have two joys this week!Jeni’s joy is, of course, her Airstream. Not only does she love it, but she also loves the subculture around it, with its rallies, clubs, and secret messages. Sandy’ joy is finally having a reason to purchase her favorite Hilma af Klint paintings! Klint was one of the first artists to do abstract work in the Western world and Sandy has wanted a space that she could furnish with her paintings for a long time. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

As female entrepreneurs, we know the challenges that come with a weak money mindset. It takes a lot of trial and error before we can trust ourselves when it comes to our own wealth.And this week’s guest used to feel no different. But, she managed to stand up, do the deep work and change her relationship with money. And now, she’s committed to helping women make the same shifts that she did!Bonnie Koo is a dermatologist-turned-fulltime wealth coach, the founder of Wealthy Mom MD, and author of her upcoming book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash. Her mission is to help female physicians grow and manage their money in a well-informed and confident way. In this week’s episode, Bonnie gives us a candid take on what she has learned through her role as a wealth coach. She breaks down why women don’t always have their own back while handling money, the social expectations surrounding wealth for practitioner-based careers, and the fear of judgement that bars many women from celebrating their successes with money. Here’s what you can expect from this week’s fascinating episode:Bonnie’s journey from medicine to full-time wealth coachingA candid discussion on money in the practitioner’s sphereThe “arrival fallacy” conceptWhat happens when you bring a broke mindset to the tableThe motivational triad (and how it applies to making money)An honest conversation about the state of medical practitioners post-COVIDWomen and the current internal narrative around handling wealthA glimpse at what Bonnie’s book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash is all about!The entrepreneur VS. practitioner money debate Bonnie also touches upon her relationship with failure as someone with a Type A personality, discusses her attitude towards money growing up, and breaks down why having a high income doesn’t necessarily mean you have it all figured out.We enjoyed recording this episode because of how transparent, uninhibited, and realistic Bonnie’s take on things is. She’s not afraid to drop numbers or give you the real picture, which is super refreshing when we’re talking about the $$$.Tune in with a cup of tea and get ready to take charge of your money mindset!Resources:Bonnie’s InstagramBonnie’s WebsiteBonnie’s TOMO Rose Gold Water BottleThis week’s Joy: Bonnie’s current joy makes sure she’s feeling healthy, hydrated, and glamorous at all times - it’s her special TOMO rose gold water bottle! (Those crystals would brighten up anyone’s day!)This week’s Hustle: Bonnie believes her book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash (coming out October 2021!) is extremely helpful for any woman. It’s a fascinating look at the socialization of money, the psychology of women surrounding wealth, and some serious brain-rewiring that we all need today to change the financial narrative.This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Confession time: we know close to nothing about product-based businesses. We’ve been in the online space for years and our experience with product businesses has been so tiring that we don’t even have the energy to sell Hey Marvelous T-shirts. But, as entrepreneurs who love to stay on top of industry trends, we couldn’t help but notice a huge influx of product-based businesses during the pandemic - especially with the rise of TikTok and the resurgence of spaces like DePop and Etsy. So, it only made sense to dig deeper and dive into the world of physical products with an expert! In today’s episode, we’re discussing the ins and outs of the business with the incredible Katie Hunt. Katie is the founder of Proof to Product where she helps coach and mentor entrepreneurs who create physical products. She works with them on business strategy and helps sell their products wholesale so they can get on the shelves of both smaller, independent shops (like that local stationery store you adore), or larger chains (like Target or Walmart). So, in today’s episode, Katie discusses her own journey from small stationery store owner to business strategist, how the landscape for product-based business has changed over the past ten years, what you need to know if you’re looking to enter the market, and more!Here’s a peek at what else you can expect:Why stronger access to customer feedback is both a blessing and a curseThe one question that you should be asking before you start a product-based business Comparisons between selling wholesale vs selling via marketing channels like EtsyThe kind of strain manufacturing and inventory has on your profit margins (and how to start paying yourself more)How to continue to feel passionate about your business when you hit a plateauThe mysteries of TikTok marketingWhy online entrepreneurs shouldn’t jump into the retail space blindOnce you’re done listening to this episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us: do you own a product-based business (or do you sell retail as a part of your online business)? What challenges do you face on a day-to-day basis?Resources:Proof To ProductProof To Product - PodcastProof To Product - InstagramVoxerThis week’s Joy: Katie and her family recently returned from a 22-day road trip (ummm, jealous). They traveled to 8 states, went camping, spent time outdoors, and were able to have quality time together as a family without Katie having to worry about her business at all. The high of the trip is Katie’s biggest joy right now!This week’s Hustle: Katie’s hustle is something we love in our business too, the criminally underrated Voxer. Voxer is a walkie-talkie app that’s fantastic for client coaching calls, connecting with colleagues, and having back and forth, real-time conversations.This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Today, we’re lucky to have access to the wisdom of several authors, teachers, and coaches who’ve created huge shifts to the entrepreneurial mindset. But there’s no one quite like Gay Hendricks. The founder of the Hendricks Institute and the Foundation for Conscious Living, Gay has written more than forty books, coached Wall Street wolves and Hollywood royalty alike. He’s dedicated nearly 5 decades (!!!) of his life to making waves in the relationship and body-mind transformation sphere. His journey from Future Teachers Of America workshop-attendee to guesting on Oprah is remarkable. And he’s here to dissect all of that and then some for this week’s episode! Gay’s work is unprecedented, but he didn’t just have the answers handed to him. He did it all by celebrating his mistakes, asking good questions, and focusing on his sacred mission.Here’s a gist of what you can expect from this week’s episode:Acknowledging your zone of genius and investing in its growthA peek into practical spirituality (ft. some great client experiences!)The importance of learning how to get your message across in bite-sized chunksA 2-minute breakdown of his bestseller, The Big LeapThe magic of listening wellA self-appreciation “homework” assignment that we all need to try out ASAPGay’s thoughts on balancing your preexisting zone of genius and building a new skillsetThe psychology behind the fear of outshining other peopleWhat you can expect from Gay’s exciting new book The Genius ZoneWhere “loving your fear” can get youIf you’re ready to maximize your potential, this is your episode! Gay is a genuinely comforting presence with a warm sense of humour and a genuine eagerness to share his lessons with the world. We’re sure you’ll enjoy listening to him as much as we did!So cozy up, tune in, and get ready to say yes to your genius! Resources:The Hendricks Institute WebsiteThe Foundation For Conscious Living WebsiteThe Genius Zone Book WebsiteGay’s Instagram This week’s Joy: Gay is currently loving his British shorthair cats Greta and Allie who’ve kept him and his wife company throughout the pandemic.This week’s Hustle: What helps Gay hustle every day is a simple 10-second tip: asking yourself to experience more and more of your genius. It’s a gentle thought that encourages the universe to bring good things your way!This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

It’s no secret that the world of business is skewed to serve a certain group of people.If you aren’t a cis white male with an Ivy League degree and an impressive resume, your chances of ‘making it’ in this industry are slim.And if you’re a Black entrepreneur?Those chances are close to nonexistent.Systematic barriers of entry have kept Black entrepreneurs out of the conversation for decades. And while everyone knew of the problem, very few were actively making an effort to help solve it pre-2020.Well, today’s guest, Jill Johnson, has been tirelessly working towards breaking down their barriers for decades. Jill is the co-founder and CEO of the Institute for Entrepreneurship Leadership. When she started this business in 2002 with her father, her goal was simple - to help the economic development of minorities through entrepreneurship.Jill’s parents ran a newspaper publishing business which meant she had several opportunities growing up to interact with small entrepreneurs and see exactly why they struggled to make payroll.Then, when she got her first job at Goldman Sachs, she was able to come in close contact with people who created tremendous wealth.That’s when she realized that they were not people who looked like her or anyone in her community.So, she started her business because she saw that certain groups of people have to face barriers that just shouldn’t exist. She understood that there was infrastructure needed not only to help these groups financially but also to offer them hands-on support so they could succeed as entrepreneurs.In today’s episode, Jill discusses the various ways she helps Black and minority entrepreneurs, what she feels the biggest barrier to entry really is for POC business owners, and the concept of wealth in the Black community.Here’s a peek at what else you can expect:How everyone can help minority businessesThe difference between a business owner and an entrepreneurWhy not everyone should start a business (and how it’s totally okay and fulfilling to be an employee!)How she acknowledges her own privilege and uses it to help other entrepreneursThe problem with angel investors and diversityAnd more!We could’ve spoken to Jill for hours. Our conversation with her was deep, rich, and entertaining. We’re thankful people like Jill exist and we want more of our And She Spoke community to help out! Check out the link in our Resources to learn more about what Jill does and how you can help. Resources:Institute for Entrepreneurship LeadershipWomen of Color ConnectThe Making of Black AngelsSmall Businesses Need UsGoalSetterCalendlyThe Value of a Wife (And She Spoke)This week’s Joy: Outside of her family and kids, Jill has been finding great joy in walking. To her, there’s nothing better than some good weather, nice music, and a long walk for her to collect her thoughts and recharge.This week’s Hustle: Jill’s hustle is a tool we also recommend to everyone we meet - Calendly! Not only is it super easy to navigate, but it also has dramatically reduced the time it takes for us to book meetings. Jill says she can’t run her business(es) without it and we agree!This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

This week’s guest quite literally puts the pro in productivity!She’s an official productivity coach, a self-declared recovering perfectionist, and a calendaring enthusiast (more on that later!).Mridu Parikh is the founder of Life Is Organized, an initiative that teaches women in business to “wake up with a plan”. Her mission is to help them fulfill their demands, set clear boundaries, and eliminate distractions — all while being in control of their intention and attention.For anyone looking to exchange their burnout for ease, she’s the woman to turn to.She’s all about using systemization as a tool to achieve the freedom you deserve — while making sure that you’re still getting everything done!However, her journey from being a client services employee in New York to finally finding her calling as a full-time productivity coach was not without its bumps. Like many of us, she experienced burnout, felt dissatisfied with the cards handed to her, and tried several career options before she found the path she was destined for (ALL while raising a family!). In this week’s episode, she takes us through her journey, shares her coaching process, and discusses all things productivity for women.We’ve got a powerhouse episode this week, and here’s what you can expect:Mridu’s 4-step strategy to building a productive lifeFinding (or customizing) an organization system that works for you How setting necessary boundaries at work can set you freeMridu’s take on Inbox Zero and (not) using your email as a to-do listHow calendaring can help register intentionality and give your mind a breakIncorporating the productivity ethos into business tools without constantly being on the jobThe need to role-model rest for your kids as a working womanA classic tip that’ll help you pull through when you’re so stressed that you “just don’t know what to do”Mridu’s insights are so sharp and relatable that you’ll find yourself reaching for your nearest journal to take notes. This episode will leave you feeling energetic, optimistic, and prepared to up your productivity game in a matter of minutes. So settle in, and let the inspiration wash over you!Resources:Mridu’s Website, Life Is OrganizedMridu’s Podcast, Productivity On Purpose21 Killer Hacks To Stop Feeling OverwhelmedTrader Joe’s Hold the ConeEvernoteThis week’s Joy: Mridu’s sweet tooth led her to her current joy - Trader Joe’s Mini Hold the Cone. It’s her “efficient”, quick, and guilt-free night snack and makes for the perfect treat!This week’s Hustle: Mridu is celebrating her 10 year anniversary of using Evernote! It’s the perfect organizational tool and helps her stay on top of everything, from work to her travel plans.  This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

We received such amazing feedback for last year’s Thrive Online conference that we knew we had to host one this year too! Tickets are now for sale online for this one-day event on 29 September. We’ll be talking about how to build a lucrative membership model and create a signature offer, as well as hosting a talk by Sadie Nardini on how to stand out on social media, before diving into the topic of building businesses that you love but also feed your bank account. We have invited the same panel along for a talk on Women, Power, and Money: Claire Wasserman, Naomi Clark, and Kelly Diels. Join us for five sessions at 9 a.m. on 29 September, for $27, by booking your ticket today! www.thriveonlineconference.com

Social media is constantly evolving.And keeping up with the trends is challenging for anyone, let alone those of us who actually have a business to run too...For example, recently, Instagram announced that they wanted creators to focus more on reels than images.The meaning of this is simple - videos posts will now receive a MUCH heavier algorithm than image-based ones.When we first heard of this update, we were shocked. Instagram was always, first and foremost, a photo-sharing app, even when it introduced Stories to compete with Snapchat.But now, it feels like the end of an era. We’re officially entering the zone where TikTok-style marketing is the cheapest and most powerful tool we can have in our arsenal.But here’s the tiny problem:  if you’re a millennial like us, TikTok probably gives you nightmares.Let’s face it, there’s a lot to dislike about TikTok - most of it is cringy, confusing, and needlessly shallow.But, we also can’t deny that TikTok is the place to be if you want to market smartly, without creating a huge dent in your bank account.So, how can we use TikTok in a way that aligns with our values?Well, that’s exactly what we’ll be discussing in today’s episode!If TikTok feels like a mangled mess, this episode is for you! We discuss how we feel about TikTok, how we’re planning on using it intentionally (so no pointing and dancing), why we think it’s so addictive, and more!Here’s a peek at what else you can expect:What we love and hate about social media in generalThe terrifying future of huge tech companies deciding how we should market our businessWhy it’s easier than ever to be manipulated by what’s trendingHow to be intentional about using TikTokWhy it’s important to put your big girl pants on as an entrepreneur (even if that means doing things you dislikeOnce you’re done listening to this episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us how you’re planning to use TikTok moving forward!Resources:Instagram’s New FocusEleanor Beaton - And She SpokeCatfishing Friends on TikTokNothing Fancy - Alison RomanARQ UnderwearThis week’s Joys: Instead of a hustle this week, we’re bringing you two joys, one for each of us!Our first joy is a cookbook. ‘Nothing Fancy’ by Alison Roman is exactly what it sounds like - a cookbook full of simple recipes that are super delicious!Our second joy is underwear. Not just any underwear, but granny panties. ARQ’s high-rise underwear has been the most comfortable thing we’ve put on our bodies this year and we’re happily willing to shell out $300 to buy multiple pairs in every color (please and thank you). This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.