
UNBOXING: Play and Profit for the Gaming Curious
Joost crunches data. Laine rummages in archives. Together on UNBOXING, these two NYU professors unlock the secrets of the games business they share with their students and cover the games news for insiders and newbies alike. A weekly podcast for anyone curious about why games matter in today's economy, dropping every Friday. Logo by Moira Zhang, theeverdrift.cargo.site
Latest episodes

Feb 17, 2023 • 1h 14min
Roblox's earnings, live service games versus the economy, and GDC's misstatement of the industry
We reach the end of this earnings season with Roblox, AppLovin, and NEXON. Laine and Joost take a closer look at how live services games are managing with a tougher economy. And they take a fine tooth comb to GDC's recently released report on the state of the gaming industry.

Feb 10, 2023 • 57min
The issue with Harry, Take-Two's "big miss", and recent moves in anti-trust
Take-Two Interactive and Activision Blizzard reported earnings, but doing well and acting right aren't the same thing. Anti-trust regulators in Europe and the UK released their latest objections to Microsoft's acquisition plans. And Laine and Joost navigate the controversy around the latest Harry Potter video game release.

Feb 4, 2023 • 1h 13min
Playtika's bid for Rovio, The Last of Us breaks HBO, and the impact of generative AI
Our second season starts with a review of earnings for Electronic Arts, Sony, and Hasbro. Laine and Joost delve into Playtika's $800 million offer to acquire Rovio, the maker of Angry Birds, and question whether artificial intelligence threatens their careers or if it's just a mediocre assistant. The episode concludes with an impression of HBO's The Last of Us and a reaction to the news of games journalists getting laid off.

Dec 29, 2022 • 57min
Unboxing Wrapped. Highlights and predictions for 2023.
Laine and Joost close their inaugural season with tall tales from the first podcast semester and share expectations for the year ahead. Unionization, acquisition, virtual reality, crypto, esports, and other key topics pass in revue.

Dec 16, 2022 • 57min
FTC vs Microsoft explained, top picks at the VGAs, and the role of game engines
Laine and Joost discuss the FTC suing to block Microsoft from buying Activision Blizzard, and why the deal will go through as planned. They question why the games industry needs an awards show, explore how Niantic is looking to reinvent itself post-Pokémon GO, and discuss the broader role of game engines in the industry.

Nov 25, 2022 • 56min
The FTX effect on gaming, Sony's plans in China, and the latest on the Activision Blizzard deal
Joost picks through the wreckage of the FTX collapse and discusses its impact on gaming. Laine explains what Sony is up to in China. And how much insider dirt does Joost really have on the Microsoft-Activision merger? UNBOXING IS BACK with this Thanksgiving episode.

Nov 4, 2022 • 45min
China's games market decline, Sony's earnings, and what's on students' minds
A Covid scarce forces Laine and Joost to record remotely for the first time, but the party doesn't stop. Mixed earnings from Sony, Microsoft, and Electronic Arts suggest worse is yet to come. China suffers the first decline of its video games market in 20 years. And our two favorite games professors discuss what tech is hot or not according to their students.

Oct 31, 2022 • 1h 2min
The Big Games Journalism Debate Gone Wild episode
Laine and Joost go head-to-head on games journalism, how it struggles to be both critical of new technologies like VR and Blockchain, and yet tries generate demand, adoption, and clicks. Listen to Laine break down and try their hardest to not regret starting a podcast with Joost, hear them go off-script, and rejoice when our two hosts ultimately find common ground in humanism. A rollercoaster.

Oct 21, 2022 • 54min
Netflix's cloud plans, the Sony hypocrisy, Amouranth, and virtual idols
Netflix aims for the sky and opens yet another studio. Laine questions if the video streamer is up to the task. Sony talks out of both sides of its mouth, hoping to hide its exclusives and undermine Microsoft's acquisition review. Twitch streamer Amouranth opens up about domestic abuse in plain view, leaving the platform speechless. And several large Chinese firms are investing in virtual influencers. Plus Laine and Joost also share their latest classroom insights.

Oct 14, 2022 • 59min
Meta's Alternate Reality, Twitch's Bigger Cut, and Lizzo Plays the Ocarina of Time
Meta announces its new, much more expensive VR headset. Is Marc out of touch with reality? Also, Laine and Joost run the numbers on Twitch going dutch with live-streamers. And worlds collide when Megan Thee Stallion backs it up on Master Chief.