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Our weekly show is hosted by Michael Nadeau (The DeFi Report) and Oskari Tempakka (Token Terminal). We provide market insights and fundamental analysis of public blockchains and protocols using onchain data.
Our weekly show is hosted by Michael Nadeau (The DeFi Report) and Oskari Tempakka (Token Terminal). We provide market insights and fundamental analysis of public blockchains and protocols using onchain data.
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May 24, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 6: Bitcoin as an ESG-friendly asset with Daniel Batten
On Episode 6 of The Signal, Michael and Oskari are joined by a special guest, Daniel Batten, an expert in ClimateTech and ESG investing. Together, we dive deep into the intersection of Bitcoin, energy, and the environment. We discuss how Bitcoin can accelerate renewable energy adoption, mitigate methane emissions, and potentially become the world's first carbon-negative network. Daniel shares his insightful research, debunks common myths about Bitcoin's environmental impact, and explores the unique economic incentives that make Bitcoin mining beneficial for renewable energy projects. We also touch on the potential for nation-states and major energy producers to get involved in Bitcoin mining.
Links:
1. https://www.batcoinz.com/
2. https://x.com/DSBatten
3. ch4capital.com
4. https://x.com/dsbatten/status/1776555625318650205?s=46
5. https://x.com/dsbatten/status/1671336675497349121?s=46
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:30 Daniel Batten's Journey into ESG Investing and Bitcoin
03:06 The Potential of Bitcoin Mining to Mitigate Methane Emissions
06:43 Debunking Myths: The Environmental Impact of Bitcoin Mining
18:20 A Deep Dive into Bitcoin's Energy Consumption and Sustainability
30:30 Addressing Bitcoin FUD with Facts and Patience
34:29 Bitcoin's Unique Journey and Global Impact
39:12 Debunking Myths: Bitcoin and Renewable Energy
43:21 The Growing Recognition of Bitcoin's Environmental Benefits
48:08 Future Prospects: Bitcoin's Role in Energy and Climate Solutions
58:30 Envisioning Bitcoin's Expansion and Environmental Impact
01:02:27 Advice for Climate Tech Investors Considering Bitcoin
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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The views expressed by the co-hosts or any guests are their personal views and should not be relied upon as financial, technical, tax, legal, or any other type of advice.
The creators of this content, or members, affiliates, or stakeholders of The DeFi Report, may be participating in or have invested in the protocols or tokens mentioned herein. The foregoing statement acts as a disclosure of potential conflicts of interest and is not a recommendation to purchase or invest in any token or participate in any protocol.
Listeners are strongly urged to exercise caution and have regard to their own personal needs and circumstances before making any decision to buy or sell any token or participate in any protocol.

May 17, 2024 • 1h 40min
Episode 5: Coinbase
Explore Coinbase's journey from a Bitcoin exchange to a web3 powerhouse, covering staking, stablecoins, prime brokerage, and strategic partnerships. Delve into regulatory challenges, competitive landscape, and revenue streams. Unpack Coinbase's financials, ecosystem growth, and potential in the onchain economy.

May 10, 2024 • 1h 33min
Episode 4: Circle Deep Dive
In this podcast, they dive deep into stablecoins, discussing Circle's journey from Bitcoin wallet to stablecoin powerhouse, analyzing USDC adoption, exploring the competitive landscape, anticipating Circle's IPO, and looking at the broader implications on the crypto ecosystem and global economy.

May 2, 2024 • 1h 10min
Episode 3: The Onchain Data Landscape
In episode 3 of The Signal, Michael and Oskari take a deep dive into the onchain data landscape. They discuss various metrics and data points crucial for analyzing market cycles, comparing blockchain and dApps, and assessing the health and growth of crypto. They cover tools and platforms for accessing and interpreting onchain data, such as Token Terminal, Glassnode, Dune, and others.
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Timestamps and topics covered:
00:00 Intro
01:04 Market updates & ETF flows
10:09 Exploring web3 data, its impact, and differences to web2 data
12:52 Deep dive into onchain data: Understanding the basics
25:45 The landscape of web3 data providers
35:34 Standardizing metrics for blockchains & dApps
39:59 Onchain data as a competitive edge
46:21 Institutional interest in crypto
46:32 Onchain data's impact on equity analysis and traditional finance
53:54 Overview of Mike's favorite metrics and charts (ALPHA)
01:09:11 Preview of next week's episode on Circle
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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Apr 25, 2024 • 40min
Episode 2: Solana Liquid Staking
In this episode, they cover topics such as Solana's liquid staking market, comparison with Ethereum, market update on Bitcoin halving and ETF flows, case study on Marinade Finance, future projections, comparison of Marinade vs. Gito, potential of Sanctum in liquid staking, and the future of money and liquidity in DeFi.

Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 1: Ethereum Earnings Call
In episode 1 of The Signal, Michael and Oskari share Ethereum's Q1 Earnings Results.
We recommend downloading a copy of the Q1 issue of The Ethereum Investment Framework to go along with this episode.
If you're interested, you can do so here:
Topics covered:
- Financial performance for the quarter (onchain profit)
- Operating performance (user growth and other KPIs)
- Growth of L2s (vs Ethereum L1)
- Ethereum "GDP"
- Market metrics
- DeFi metrics (TVL, ETH staked, trading volumes)
- Token Economics (ETH burned vs issued)
- EIP 4844
- Market Outlook
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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Learn more about Artemis:
https://www.artemis.xyz/

Apr 1, 2024 • 1h 8min
Episode 20: Navigating FUD and Seeking Truth
Crypto is in a bull market, which means we should expect to see plenty of incoming FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) hitting our news feeds and timelines.
In episode 20 of The Rundown, Michael and Shiv break it all down, including the following:
- What is FUD?
- The primary sources of FUD
- Where FUD *really* comes from
- Most common types of FUD and how to debunk it
If you’re new to crypto, the goal of this episode is to equip you with everything you need to seek the truth.
P.S. the next time someone tells you that Bitcoin miners are “boiling the ocean” or that crypto is “only used by criminals,” simply share this episode with them :)
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 1min
Episode 19: The Institutional Investors Guide to Ethereum with Chan Samadder, CFA
In this week's episode of The Rundown, Michael and Shiv were joined by Chan Samadder, CFA and Head of Product at ETC-Group.
Topics covered:
- Chan's background in TradFi and his journey into crypto and digital assets
- ETC-Group and the regulated crypto financial products they are bringing to market in Europe
- Why Ethereum? How Chan thinks about ETH as an asset and how he speaks with investors about the Ethereum Network
- How to monitor Ethereum's adoption rates
- Ethereum's Token Economics
- Onchain Financials
- Why Now?
- How ETH fits into a diversified portfolio of assets
- Correlations to Equities
- Staking vs Holding ETH
- Types of Staking Products in the Market
- Success of recently launched ETH Total Return Staking Product
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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https://etc-group.com/
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Disclaimer: Nothing said on The Rundown is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by the co-hosts or guests are solely their opinions and not financial advice. Michael, Shiv, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
Please note that financial products offered by ETC-Group are available only to professional investors within qualified European jurisdictions.

Mar 15, 2024 • 1h 4min
Episode 18: What are the chances of an ETH ETF in 2024?
In episode 18 of The Rundown, Michael and Shiv dive into the following topics as Bitcoin shot through all-time highs:
- Bitcoin ETF Inflow Update
- Pattern matching ---- what can we learn about new TradFi entrants so far this cycle?
- Why did Bloomberg downgrade the chances of an ETH ETF to 35% in May?
- Michael Saylor and Microstrategy buying more BTC (with really cheap capital)
- Is FUD season already here?
- Going onchain with Artemis Terminal covering Sybil activity onchain
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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Learn more about Artemis Terminal:
https://www.artemis.xyz/
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Show Resources:
Nomura Study on Bitcoin & Impact on the Japanese Economy:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/02/bitcoin-could-boost-japans-gdp-nomura-analysts-say.html#

Mar 8, 2024 • 1h 16min
Episode 17: The Solana Aircraft Carrier Portfolio
In this week's episode of The Rundown, Michael and Shiv share their approach toward building a Solana portfolio with an "aircraft carrier" approach. Additional topics covered:
- The Bitcoin ETF inflows update
- Onchain Data "cycle awareness" update using onchain data signal from Glassnode
We hope you enjoy the episode!
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Subscribe to The DeFi Report Newsletter: https://thedefireport.io/#newsletter
Download a free copy of The Ethereum Investment Framework: https://thedefireport.gumroad.com/l/ethereuminvestmentframework
Subscribe on YouTube:
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Follow Michael:
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Follow Shiv:
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Learn more about Glassnode:
https://glassnode.com/