
Habits of Leadership
The Habits of Leadership Podcast helps leaders & their teams to thrive, professionally & personally.
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Aug 12, 2019 • 33min
010: Using Research in Schools with Dr Deborah Netolicky
In this episode of the Habits of Leadership, Dan chats with Dr Deborah Netolicky.
Deborah is Dean of Research and Pedagogy at Wesley College and Honorary Research Associate at Murdoch University as well as the author of Transformational Professional Learning: Making a Difference in Schools
She also one of the co-editors of Flip the System Australia: What Matters in Education - a book in which Dan also contributed a chapter.
Deborah blogs at www.theeduflaneuse.com and tweets using the handle: @debsnet
As well as being awarded the Australian Council for Educational Leaders awards: the ‘New Voice’ In Educational Leadership Research Scholarship 2016 and the ACEL WA Research in Educational Leadership and Management Award 2018 she completed my PhD in 2016 with her thesis awarded the International Outstanding Research Award in Cognitive Coaching.
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Jul 30, 2019 • 36min
009: Chatting with Dan Pink about Motivation & Timing
In this episode Dan Haesler chats with best-selling author Dan Pink about motivation and timing.
Focusing on Dan's book, Drive - The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us and his latest release, When - The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, Dan & Dan explore the need for Autonomy, Mastery and Purpose as well as finding out whether or not the grades you got at school might have had more to do with when you learned, as opposed to what you learned.
You can find out about all things Dan Pink at his website: https://danpink.com/
And you can find out more about our work and submit questions and/or suggestions for topics and guests for upcoming shows at: https://habitsofleadership.com/podcast/
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Jul 17, 2019 • 35min
008: Women in Educational Leadership with Dr Barbara Watterston
In this episode Dan talks with Dr Barbara Watterston about her new book Step In, Step Up - Empowering Women for the School Leadership Journey.
In a profession where the overwhelming majority of teachers are female, why is there a disproportionate amount of male school leaders?
In this chat Dr Watterston explores some of the barriers women face as well as some suggestions as to how individuals and schools can address this.
Dr Watterston is an advocate for women in leadership. She sees the lack of representation of women in leadership roles as missing out on the incredible potential of women to influence and positively impact reforms and outcomes. She has been recognised for her contribution to leadership and professional learning. She was the inaugural recipient of the Women of Achievement Award (Western Australia, 2005), is an honorary fellow of the Melbourne Graduate School of Education and is a national fellow of the Australian Council for Educational Leaders. Her expertise is regularly sought out to contribute in an advisory capacity as a member of numerous university, departmental, school and professional boards.
Her book Step In, Step Up - Empowering Women for the School Leadership Journey is available at: https://www.hbe.com.au/barbara-watterston.html
And you can follow her on Twitter at: @BarbKW
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Jul 1, 2019 • 37min
007: Talking about talking with Tom Barrett
In this episode of Habits of Leadership, Dan chats with the Director of Dialogic Learning, Tom Barrett.
They talk about giving and receiving feedback, protocols for more effective meetings and the shifts in educational architecture.
Learn more about Dialogic Learning at http://dialogiclearning.com
Read Tom's blogpost about the WAIT protocol:
https://edte.ch/blog/2018/02/02/why-am-i-talking/
Read Tom's blogpost about why it doesn't matter how 'good' your feedback is.
http://edte.ch/blog/2019/05/16/it-does-not-matter-how-good-the-feedback-is/
You can also find out more about our Habits of Leadership Program and submit questions and suggestions for guests or topics for upcoming episodes at: https://habitsofleadership.com/podcast/

Jun 16, 2019 • 42min
006: Chatting about Coaching with Michael Bungay Stanier
In this episode, Dan talks with author of The Coaching Habit, Michael Bungay-Stanier on how and why leaders should be more 'coach-like.'
You can find out more about Michael's work at: https://boxofcrayons.com
You can grab a copy of his book here.
You can also find out more about our Habits of Leadership Program and submit questions and suggestions for guests or topics for upcoming episodes at: https://habitsofleadership.com/podcast/

May 28, 2019 • 28min
005: Chatting with Sir Ken Robinson
In this episode, Dan Haesler chats with best-selling author and world-renowned creativity expert Sir Ken Robinson.
This was recorded back in 2018 when Dan and Ken spoke together at the National Future Schools Conference in Melbourne.
Ken returns to Australia in June this year, so we thought the Habits audience might enjoy the chat.
You can get more information about our work at www.habitsofleadership.com and you can suggest questions, or guests for future inclusion in the show.

May 13, 2019 • 44min
004: What To Do When Leaders Won't Listen and Other Questions...
In this episode, Dan & Tim take on questions from the listening community around what books they would recommend, how to increase engagement in school communities, and what to do when leaders don't want to change the way they behave despite their teams complaints.
Books we recommend.
Drive by Dan Pink
Primal Leadership by Daniel Goleman
Mindset by Carol Dweck
The Fearless Organisation by Amy Edmondsen
Legacy by James Kerr
The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier
Useful Resource for Parental Engagement
Involve Us from the DECD South Australia
One more book...
What got you here won't get you there - Marshall Goldsmith
The other podcast Tim mentions
Humble Leadership with Edgar Shein
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Apr 27, 2019 • 16min
003: How "Radical Love" Can Turn Around a School
In this episode of the Habits of Leadership Podcast, Tim Perkins catches up with Dr. Lindsa McIntyre.
Fondly known as “Ms. Mac” Dr. McIntyre is a transformational educational leader in the city of Boston and is currently the headmaster of the Jeremiah E. Burke High School, located in the heart of the “promise neighbourhood” of Roxbury and Dorchester. Tasked to redesign a state designated underperforming high the school, Dr. McIntyre through her passionate interactions and interventions was able to meet the targeted needs of the entire at risk student body.
As a result, of her commitment to social justice, equity and access to quality education for all students, she was able to lead the school out of underperformance, making the Jeremiah E. Burke, the first high school in the commonwealth of Massachusetts to exit Turnaround status.
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Apr 2, 2019 • 37min
002: Chatting with Carol Dweck about Mindset Myths
In this episode, Dan Haesler shares a chat he had with Carol Dweck in 2017. During this interview Dan & Carol discuss how Mindset has been appropriated, and in many cases misappropriated in schools and organisations.
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Mar 18, 2019 • 31min
001: Tackling Change & Difficult Conversations
Welcome to our first ever episode of the Habits of Leadership podcast.
At Cut Through Coaching we work to help leaders and their teams thrive, on a professional level and personal level.
This first episode sees Cut Through's Dan Haesler & Tim Perkins responding to our program members' questions about Change and having Difficult Conversations.
Some useful links to complement this episode are:
Managing your emotions at work: https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newCDV_41.htm
Resistance to change in the workplace: https://www.paycor.com/resource-center/change-management-in-the-workplace-why-do-employees-resist-it
Useful Books:
Crucial Conversations by Kerry Patterson
Leading Change by John Kotter
Primal Leadership by Daniel Goleman