

Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers
Numinus Network
The psychedelic renaissance is here! Join Dr. Steve Thayer, Dr. Reid Robison, and special guests as they explore the frontiers of psychedelic medicine and what it takes to cultivate a healthy mind, body, and spirit. Our hosts draw from their extensive knowledge and experience with psychedelic therapy research and treatment to discuss the science, practice, and art of psychedelic healing. If you are a helping professional, therapist, clinician, guide, healer, psychedelic enthusiast, or simply curious about mental, physical, and spiritual health, this is the podcast for you!
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May 24, 2022 • 47min
Making life sacred through ceremony and ritual
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss making life sacred through ceremony and ritual. Post-enlightenment and certainly post-industrial life in the west has become increasingly more profane. Reid and Steve explore the potential problems with this and the value of adding ritual and ceremony to your life if it isn’t already there. (1:21) Chanting and toning(2:23) PTF episode on setting intentions (3:18) What is sacred?(3:43) What are rituals and ceremonies for?(7:24) The 6 attributes of ritual(11:10) Rite of passage(13:37) Ritual's bind communities together(14:31) Ritual helping us create order out of chaos and give up the need to control and make sense of everything(21:47) The depth and wisdom contained in traditional rituals(23:30) The body is the vehicle for enlightenment(27:10) Cold plunging and breath work(29:39) Steve's first yoga class(32:53) Ritualizing the things we do anyway(38:25) Are rituals and ceremonies "cringe" or "cheesy"? Email us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

May 17, 2022 • 47min
How to set intentions for psychedelic therapy…and for life!
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss intention-setting. We believe this is a crucial part of getting the most out of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy and….out of life. We talk about our favorite ways to help clients set intentions and how we are personally trying to live lives calibrated to our highest purpose.(1:23) Introduction to the topic(2:19) The relationship between intention and attention (4:07) Values and rituals around intentions (6:39) The deliberate work of intention-setting(9:23) Manifesting(15:12) Making intentions simple and memorable(17:04) What pulls Reid and Steve out of alignment(25:13) Practices for setting and calibrating to intentions(33:25) Living with "wise" intention(34:27) Transcend, by Scott Bary Kaufman(39:25) Intentions in psychedelic therapy sessions(44:54) Steve's invitation for you to set an intentionEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

May 10, 2022 • 59min
How to make love stay in relationships with Hannah Cross, LCSW
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison joined by Hannah Cross. Hannah is a regular guest on the show and today we’re doing our 2nd installment in our series on relationships. Hannah is a licensed clinical social worker, expert therapist, reiki master, yoga teacher, ecstatic dance facilitator, and an expert at using psychedelic medicines to enhance the psychotherapy process. In this episode we explore the concept of love and how to make it last in relationships. We hope you find it useful. (1:52) Hannah introduces herself(2:41) First PTF podcast episode in the relationships series Sex, Tantra, Psychedelics, and making relationships work(3:10) How do we make love stay?(3:16) Still Life with Woodpecker, by Tom Robbins(4:34) The magic, mystery, and ineffability of love(7:39) Some definitions of love(9:41) Could submitting to love be maladaptive? (12:53) The research on what makes relationships succeed or fail by John and Julie Gottman(14:52) 4 horsemen of the apocalypse(17:31) MDMA-assisted therapy for couples (19:31) Antidotes to the 4 horsemen(23:02) Cultivate friendships in a romantic partnership(27:20) The importance of trust in a relationship(29:26) Commitment in a relationship(33:23) When to break a commitment(39:30) Pain is part of love(42:38) Sue Johnson's marriage therapy(44:16) Separation makes the heart grow fonder(44:46) Bittersweet, by Susan Cain(46:00) The Sea in You, by David Whyte(50:07) Strategies for making love stayEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

May 3, 2022 • 58min
Ketamine treatment for opioid use disorder & MORE with Dr. Eric Garland
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison joined by Dr. Eric Garland. Dr. Garland is the Distinguished Endowed Chair in Research, Distinguished Professor, and Associate Dean for Research in the University of Utah College of Social Work, Director of the Center on Mindfulness and Integrative Health Intervention Development (C-MIIND), Associate Director of Integrative Medicine in Supportive Oncology and Survivorship at the Huntsman Cancer Institute, and Research Health Scientist in Whole Health at the Salt Lake Veterans Administration Medical Center. Dr. Garland the most prolific author of mindfulness research in the world. We had him on the podcast today to talk about the mindfulness-based therapy intervention he created called Mindfulness Oriented Recovery Enhancement (MORE). Learn more about Dr. Garland here: https://drericgarland.com/ (1:57) Dr. Garland introduces himself(2:39) What is bio-behavioral clinical research (5:11) The mechanisms of addiction and how Mindfulness Oriented Recovery Enhancement (MORE) was designed to treat them(9:44) Compassion for those who struggle with addiction(13:58) The critical importance of savoring(20:37) Technique for helping people savor healthy pleasure (29:28) MORE's affect on neurotransmitters (34:12) MORE increasing feelings of self-transcendence(43:32) Nondual Awareness Dimensional Assessment (45:51) The scientific rigor of the psychedelic renaissance and caution agains the hype(55:00) How to get trained in MOREEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Apr 26, 2022 • 1h 4min
We are Gods with amnesia with Demetri Vallejos
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined by Demetri Vallejos. Demetri has dedicated his life to helping find optimal wellness and productivity by remembering a long-forgotten truth: that we are all gods. He has experience and skill with plant medicine, meditation, psychedelic integration, astrology, and something he calls quantum bionetic coaching. His website is https://www.rawdimension.com/ (2:10) Demetri tells his story(6:08) Tool: Lateralus and Alex Grey artwork(8:36) The nature of consciousness and "nous"(12:26) Corpus Hermeticum(16:08) Non-dual awareness(21:19) Cosmobiology and the Kali Yuga(27:58) Consciousness from a physics perspective (28:30) Joe Dispenza (29:41) We create our own reality and are gods with amnesia (40:46) The nature of the divine(45:26) The elements: magnetic and electric fluids(48:10) The Immortality Key, by Brian Muraresku(50:44) Demetri's spiritual and meditative practices(54:30) Initiation into Hermetics, by Franz Bardon(1:00:00) Decriminalize NatureEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Apr 19, 2022 • 1h 7min
How does therapy actually work?
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison try to answer the provocative question, "How does therapy actually work?" They discuss how mental illness is defined, different therapy approaches, aspects common to all therapy approaches, how psychedelics might accelerate progress in therapy, whether or not AI therapists will steal our jobs, and much more!(2:15) Does psychotherapy work?(3:11) How do we define mental health problem?(7:00) What do we work on in therapy?(12:07) Therapist using their humanity as a therapeutic tool(16:00) Corrective emotional experience(17:49) Common vs specific factors that contribute to the effectiveness of therapy(12:09) Classical and operant conditioning(24:02) Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) and MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD(29:19) Cognitive dissonance (32:25) Why we stay stuck(37:17) Self-awareness and insight(41:02) Habit change(44:56) Ibogaine treatment for addiction(48:39) Distinct but overlapping aspects of psychedelic experiences and therapy approaches(50:00) AI therapists and how to find the right therapist for you(57:38) Combining therapy and psych medications(01:02:12) Psychedelic accelerated psychotherapy Email us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Apr 12, 2022 • 1h 6min
Psychedelic clinical trials (psilocybin, LSD, etc) with Dr. Paul Thielking
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined again by Dr. Paul Thielking. Paul is a psychiatrist, palliative care physician, zen practitioner, and the chief scientific officer at Novamind. Paul joins the show to talk about psychedelic clinical trials. (2:15) Introduction to the topic(4:11) Cedar Clinical Research(4:45) What is a clinical trial?(10:42) The unique challenges of psychedelic clinical trials and regulating psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy(15:09) Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS)(18:06) The therapy part of psychedelic-assisted therapy(24:13) How important is integration support after psychedelic experience(26:33) The resources required to do psychedelic-assisted therapy(29:55) The challenges of training enough therapists to do psychedelic-assisted therapy (36:11) Psychedelic medicine accessibility and scaleability (39:25) Placebo-controlled double-blind psychedelic studies (44:02) Handling and accounting for disappointment when a trial participant gets the placebo(49:11) Investigator initiated studies(52:28) Compassionate use and expanded access(55:45) What types of psychedelics are being studied in clinical trialsEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Apr 5, 2022 • 1h 9min
Communication is everything!
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison have a conversation about communication. Clear, effective communication is so important in this episode we do our best to explore why. We talk about communication styles, how to navigate conflict, the power of deep listening, the difference between empathy and compassion, and so much more!(1:23) Introduction to the topic(4:11) Stories behind conflict and the Gottmans(6:54) Communication is everything and the many ways we communicate(9:49) The importance of listening(11:52) Empathy and compassion(20:40) Reflective listening and validation (24:07) Validating children to teach them resilience(28:30) Don't listen to the words, listen to the needs. (31:28) Cultural influences on communication(33:14) Communication styles (aggressive, passive, passive-aggressive, and assertive)(42:24) No More Mr. Nice Guy, by Robert Glover(42:33) Not Nice, by Aziz Gazipura(45:47) Communicating with yourself and "self-talk"(53:22) How to handle conflict and the 4 horseman of the apocalypse (01:00:15) Never Split the Difference, Chris Voss(01:01:28) Crucial Conversations book(01:01:55) Talking to Crazy, by Mark Goulston(01:03:26) Psychedelics effects on communication Email us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Mar 29, 2022 • 1h 12min
Awakening, enlightenment, and self-actualization
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison explore the concept of psychological and spiritual awakening. Is awakening the same as enlightenment or self-actualization? Does it happen gradually or all at once? How does one know if and when you're enlightened? What role can psychedelic medicine play in the process of awakening or enlightenment? We discuss these questions and so much more in today’s episode:(1:54) Are awakening and enlightenment the same thing? (3:22) Sam Harris(5:29) Effective altruism (6:25) The illusion of self and looking for the looker(12:42) Becoming awake to many things vs THE awakening (14:10) Joseph Goldstein, imperfect gurus, and balance (19:46) Psychedelic experiences and awakening(21:53) Attachments and other obstacles to awakening(25:50) Waking up to shame, fear, and your internal parts (Dick Schwartz)(31:08) Teachings about enlightenment from various religions and ideologies (34:15) Non-separation, the best and worst of humanity, and loving awareness(38:23) The difference between doing and being(40:37) Ayahuasca and ketamine experiences(44:58) Sexual awakening and the body as a vehicle to enlightenment (49:10) Abraham Maslow, self-actualization, and Transcend, by Scott Barry Kaufman(54:21) Getting stuck in the healing process(57:18) The value of ceremony and ritual in the healing process(01:04:09) Stages to enlightenment (01:06:11) Wake Up Now, by Stephan Bodian(01:07:19) After the Ecstasy, the Laundry, by Jack Kornfield(01:07:52) Awareness, by Anthony De Mello(01:07:56) Letting Go, by David R. Hawkins(01:08:16) The Power of Now, by Eckhart Tolle(01:08:31) No Bad Parts, by Richard SchwartzEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Mar 22, 2022 • 1h 12min
Microbiome, gut-brain connection, & mental health with Dr. Amy de la Garza
Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined for the second time on the show by Dr. Amy de la Garza to talk about the gut microbiome and the gut-brain connection. Amy is a board-certified family practice physician who provides specialized care for patients with behavioral health and SUD diagnoses. She uses an integrative approach sometimes called “lifestyle medicine”, which addresses nutrition, movement, sleep, stress management and social connection. Amy is also the Medical Director of the Novamind Salt Lake City, UT clinic. They discuss the following topics:(1:30) Introduction to topic(3:00) What is the gut microbiome? (5:16) Can mental illness be attributed to problems with the gut microbiome? (6:10) Studies about probiotic use and depression(8:30) The gut's affect on the HPA axis(9:55) "Leaky gut" or gut hyperpermeability and auto immune conditions(14:50) How the gut interacts with the vagus nerve(20:00) Neurotransmitter production in the gut(24:45) Short chain fatty acids(26:12) Bacterial endotoxemia, inflammation, and oxidation(28:17) Microbiome and weight management(28:55) Unocking the Keto Code, by Steven Gundry(30:39) The dark side of diet culture(32:50) Why don't we all have a perfectly healthy gut microbiome?(33:33) Antibiotic overuse and the utility of probiotics (37:15) Food choices that influence the health of the gut microbiome(38:52) Trauma affects the microbiome (45:00) What can you do to improve gut health? (47:00) Stop drinking soda and start drinking water(50:45) Quality sleep(54:15) Adaptive responses to stress and our episode on triggers (56:11) Stress management and the gut(01:05:18) The healthcare profession is not conducive to healthEmail us questions and feedback at psychfrontiers@novamind.ca Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/novamind_inc/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/


