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Mar 28, 2025 • 28min
Chine McDonald on life, death, and faith at the edges of motherhood
On this episode, Chine McDonald speaks about the themes of her new book, Unmaking Mary: Shattering the myth of perfect motherhood (Hodder & Stoughton).
The book is available to buy at the Church Times Bookshop here: https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781399814638/unmaking-mary?vc=CT828
The talk was given earlier this month at the Church Times Festival of Faith and Literature. It was chaired by Dr Eve Poole.
In this week’s Church Times, Chine explores depictions of Mary the mother, meek and mild. Read her article here: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-march/features/features/how-portrayals-of-mary-in-art-influence-perceptions-of-motherhood
Chine McDonald is director of Theos. Her previous books include God is Not a White Man: And other revelations (Podcast, 28 May 2021, Books, 11 June 2021).
https://faithandliterature.hymnsam.co.uk
Picture credit: Harvey Mills
Save the date: Festival of Preaching one day event, 13 September 2025, Southwark Cathedral. Further details tbc at https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/events
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Mar 21, 2025 • 15min
Lent Poetry Podcast revisited: 'Paternoster' by Jen Hadfield
On the podcast this week, Mark Oakley reflects on “Paternoster” by Jen Hadfield. This episode was first broadcast in 2023 as part of the Church Times Poetry Podcast for Lent series.
“Paternoster” is published in Jen Hadfield’s collection Nigh-No-Place (Bloodaxe Books, 2008), which won the T.S. Eliot Prize. We are grateful to Bloodaxe Books for giving permission to play a recording of Jen Hadfield reading the poem. https://www.bloodaxebooks.com
The material in this podcast is taken from Mark Oakley’s book The Splash of Words (Canterbury Press), winner of the 2019 Michael Ramsey Prize for Theological Writing.
Artwork by Emily Noyce
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Mar 14, 2025 • 34min
Edward Stourton: Can truth survive in a digital age?
In this episode, Edward Stourton, the veteran journalist and presenter of BBC Radio 4’s Sunday programme, examines how truth can survive in a digital age, and explains why truth-telling still matters.
He was delivering the Sir Tony Baldry Lecture in Winchester Cathedral on 28 February, as part of the Church Times Festival of Faith and Literature (Features, 7 March). https://faithandliterature.hymnsam.co.uk
“Technology can create challenges as well as opportunities,” he says. “Today’s digital landscape offers us an abundance — a superabundance — of sources for information, something unimaginable in the 1940s, and, indeed, in the three-television-channel world I joined in the 1970s. If we’re offered several versions of the truth, it is only natural to prefer the version which best fits our views and prejudices, and that’s a real challenge facing us in what’s sometimes called the mainstream media. So, how do we meet that challenge?”
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Mar 3, 2025 • 35min
Bishop of Leicester on the intercultural lessons for Living in Love and Faith
On this episode, the Bishop of Leicester, the Rt Revd Martyn Snow, is interviewed about his new booklet, Can We Imagine a Future Together? Intercultural lessons for living in love and faith, in which he attempts to chart a way forward for the Living in Love and Faith (LLF) process. Bishop Snow is the lead bishop on LLF.
“The Church of England is in a season of discernment as it seeks a way to honour and accommodate differing theological and pastoral responses to Living in Love and Faith and to find a way to remain united despite sometimes profound disagreement,” the booklet's description says. “Martyn Snow offers further practical resources for this season of listening, prayer, patience and kindness.
“Drawing on his experiences of working in the UK’s most culturally diverse diocese to explore how best to live together well across difference, such that all church members — especially those who have been historically marginalised — flourish, he finds helpful models in the in the field of interculturalism and in the concept of gift exchange. These models are expressed in generous giving, radical receptivity and transformative thanksgiving — all of which can contribute positively to today’s pressing questions.”
Can We Imagine a Future Together? is published by Church House Publishing and is available to buy at https://www.chpublishing.co.uk/books/9781781405130/can-we-imagine-a-future-together.
Bishop Snow is interviewed by Francis Martin, Staff Writer for the Church Times.
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Feb 19, 2025 • 26min
Reflections on a long and difficult General Synod
Staff writer Francis Martin spent all of last week in the press gallery of Church House, Westminster, reporting on the latest meeting of the General Synod. He reports back to the editor, Sarah Meyrick, about some of the most significant debates and votes, including on the future of safeguarding and proposed changes to the Crown Nominations Commission.
Francis was also out and about talking to Synod members. Watch a video of some of the interviews here: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/14-february/audio-video/video/watch-church-times-reports-from-the-general-synod-in-london
Read coverage of the Synod on our website: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/topics/general-synod
Synod digest will be published next week (28 February issue)
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Feb 7, 2025 • 28min
What is the right way forward for safeguarding in the Church of England?
In 2023, the Archbishops of Canterbury and York asked Professor Alexis Jay to develop proposals for a fully independent structure to provide scrutiny of safeguarding in the Church of England. Her report, published the following year, concluded that not only scrutiny, but operational safeguarding, should be independent, necessitating the creation of two separate charities.
But while there is widespread demand for action to prevent further failings, opinion on taking up Professor Jay’s recommendations remains divided.
Next week, members of the General Synod will gather again to discuss the way forward. The task before them is a weighty one, with the debate taking place against a backdrop of widespread horror at the Church’s record to date.
On Wednesday (5 February), the Church Times hosted a webinar to discuss the right way forward, in response to Professor Jay’s recommendations. This podcast features contributions from the panel below. A video of the full webinar, including the panel’s discussion and responses to questions, will be available soon.
Panel
Jane Chevous, co-founder, Survivors Voices
Colin Perkins, diocesan safeguarding adviser, diocese of Chichester
David Greenwood, Switalskis Solicitors
Jim Gamble, INEQE Safeguarding Group
Chaired by Madeleine Davies of the Church Times
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Jan 23, 2025 • 41min
Bishop of Chelmsford on the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal
The Bishop of Chelmsford, Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, was in Jerusalem last week when the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal was agreed.
Shortly after returning from the Holy Land, she spoke to Francis Martin about the reaction to the deal on the ground; the prospects for long-term peace in the region; and more widely about the visit, which included meeting Layan Nasir, a young Anglican woman from Birzeit who was released in December, after eight months in “administrative detention”.
“As a Christian and as a person of prayer, I have to continue to hope that people of peace, people who want to see reconciliation, people who believe in justice, will find a will and a way to work together eventually to lead to a peaceful solution,” she said.
The interview was recorded on Sunday (19 January).
Picture: Dr Francis-Dehqani with the Archbishop in Jerusalem, Dr Hosam Naoum. Credit: Diocese of Chelmsford
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Jan 17, 2025 • 16min
Barbara Brown Taylor at the Festival of Preaching
This week’s podcast brings a sermon preached by Barbara Brown Taylor at the 2024 Festival of Preaching in Cambridge last September (Features, 20 September 2024).
She considers how the Church can bear witness to good news “in a world so full of the other kind”, such as global warfare and climate change, political divisions and churches closing, the loneliness epidemic, and systemic racism.
Barbara Brown Taylor is an Episcopal priest and best-stelling author, whose books include Holy Envy (Books, 14 June 2019) and Always a Guest (Books, 18 December 2020).
The Church Times Festival of Faith and Literature runs from Friday 28 February to Sunday 2 March. For more details and to book tickets, visit https://faithandliterature.hymnsam.co.uk
Photo credit: Tom Perkins
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Jan 10, 2025 • 11min
A message from the new Editor
On the podcast this week, Sarah Meyrick introduces an exciting new era for the Church Times, including fresh content and contributors, and the return to a news front-page, reflecting our proud heritage as an independent newspaper.
She tells Associate Editor Ed Thornton more about the thinking behind the changes.
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Dec 13, 2024 • 57min
Does the future have a Church? The 2024 Theos Annual Lecture
On the podcast this week, a panel of experts discuss the question: Does the future have a Church?
In an increasingly unstable and dark world, will people return to or at least reconsider belief, or are we continuing to hear the ‘melancholy, long, withdrawing roar’ of faith?
The discussion was recorded in London on 26 November at the 2024 Theos Annual Lecture.
The panelists were:
Daisy Scalchi, Head of Religion and Ethics, BBC Television
Justin Brierley, broadcaster, author, and speaker
Madeleine Davies, senior writer for the Church Times
Bishop Mike Royal, General Secretary of Churches Together in England
Mary Harrington, writer and author of Feminism Against Progress
The discussion was chaired by Nick Spencer, Senior Fellow at Theos. The director of Theos, Chine McDonald, introduced and closed the event.
https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk
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