

The Gaggle: An Arizona politics podcast
The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com
Helping you keep up with what matters in Arizona's political news. Each week we interview politicians, public figures or journalists to break down one local issue and how it affects your life in Arizona.
Coming to you every Wednesday morning, The Gaggle is hosted by The Arizona Republic's national political reporter Ron Hansen and produced by Amanda Luberto.
Coming to you every Wednesday morning, The Gaggle is hosted by The Arizona Republic's national political reporter Ron Hansen and produced by Amanda Luberto.
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Aug 13, 2025 • 20min
Conservative judge heeds warning for his party
Anxieties you might assume are from a liberal law professor against President Donald Trump and his administration are coming from an unexpected source: Arizona Supreme Court Justice Clint Bolick.
Appointed by Republican Governor Doug Ducey and a described "rockstar of the right" Bolick is no lefty, but he can't help but worry about the way the President is disregarding court decisions.
This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, we are joined by an Arizona Republic reporter who spoke candidly with Bolick about why he sees the current moment as so perilous and how people on both sides of the aisle have responded to his call-out.
Read Taylor Seely's article here
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Guest: Taylor Seely
Hosts: Mary Jo Pitzl, Ron Hansen
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Aug 6, 2025 • 33min
A conversation with Congresswoman Yassamin Ansari
Rep. Yassamin Ansari has spent her freshman year in Congress making national headlines.
She made national headlines for her travel to El Salvador where she tried, unsuccessfully, to meet with a man who was deported to that country as part of President Donald Trump’s mass deportation effort.
At the same time, she’s thinking about her political party – from who will run for president in 2028 to who is signing up new voters.
This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, we are joined by Rep. Ansari to break down her first year in Congress and her attempts to work across the aisle.
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Hosts: Mary Jo Pitzl, Ron Hansen
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Jul 30, 2025 • 20min
Remembering migrants-rights activist Alfredo Gutierrez
Alfredo Gutierrez, a nationally known migrants-rights activist and prominent politician, has died. At 79 years old, he succumbed to esophageal cancer on Tuesday, July 29.
Through his long service in the state, Gutierrez exhibited an activist's DNA despite his role inside the government. He sought social justice with his dual passions of civil rights and educational access, especially for immigrants.
This week on a special episode of The Gaggle, an Arizona political podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, host Mary Jo Pitzl takes you through the notable life of Alfredo Gutierrez.
Rather than us talking about Gutierrez, you'll hear from the man himself along with former state House minority leader Art Hamilton, former Phoenix mayor Terry Goddard, former state Senate President Pete Rios and notable friends.
Read Alfredo Gutierrez's obituary.
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Jul 23, 2025 • 31min
Arizona Democrats are in crisis
Arizona Democrats have held the spotlight this month with two very different votes.
One elected legacy politician Adelita Grijalva for the party's representation in the CD 7 race to fill her late father's seat in Congress.
The other was to oust their state party chair, Robert Branscomb II.
Arizona Democrats are riddled with political infighting after losing the presidential election in 2024, and soon the party will need to come together for midterm campaigns, including the re-election of Gov. Katie Hobbs.
This week on The Gaggle, we joined by Stacy Pearson, a Democratic political strategist and co-founder of Lumen Strategies. Pearson joins the show to give a status update on the party, what these two votes indicate for the future and what she thinks the Democrats need in order to get it together.
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Guest: Stacy Pearson, political strategist
Hosts: Ron Hansen, Mary Jo Pitzl
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Jul 16, 2025 • 24min
What Sen. Gallego's trip to Iowa could mean
While the rest of the U.S. Senate will go on its annual break in August, Arizona freshman Ruben Gallego is heading to Des Moines to meet with middle America to potentially gauge his chances in what is expected to be a crowded field of Democratic contenders.
This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, hosts Ron Hansen and Mary Jo Pitzl are joined by Des Moines Register politics reporter Brianne Pfannensteil.
She joins the podcast to talk through what this trip means, if stopping at the Iowa State Fair is still a strong indicator of who is interested in the White House spot and how voters outside of Arizona view the senator.
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Guest: Brianne Pfannensteil
Hosts: Ron Hansen, Mary Jo Pitzl
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Jul 9, 2025 • 20min
How Trump's Big Beautiful Bill will change Arizona
President Donald Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act into law in a Fourth of July ceremony, making tax cuts he passed during his first term permanent.
It offsets those revenue losses to the government with steep cuts to services like the Medicaid program, requiring states to be responsible for funding food stamp programs and delivering tax cuts to the wealthiest taxpayers.
This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, our hosts are joined by Republic reporter Stephanie Murray. Together they discuss the key points out of the Big Beautiful Bill, how Arizona politicians showed up and how the new law will impact Arizonans daily.
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Guest: Stephanie Murray
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Jul 3, 2025 • 26min
'Government can be a force for good' An interview with Governor Katie Hobbs
When Hobbs was elected in 2022, she pledged to bring sanity over chaos. But the Democratic governor has tried to navigate working opposite a Republican-controlled Legislature over the last three years.
This year's session was no exception. Hobbs vetoed 174 bills this year, a new single-year record that surpasses her 143 vetoes in 2023.
But her vetoes aren't the full story, even if they are record-breaking. She also signed 265 bills into law this year.
This week on The Gaggle, a weekly politics podcast, host Mary Jo Pitzl and guest host Stacey Barchenger are joined by Gov. Hobbs in-studio for a sit-down interview.
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Guests: Governor Katie Hobbs
Host: Mary Jo Pitzl, Stacey Barchenger
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Jul 2, 2025 • 12min
The Arizona Republic reads the Declaration of Independence
On July 4th, 1776, 56 men signed a document declaring the newly formed 13 colonies as one United States of America. By this charter, they formed a new country, one free from Britain's rule.
The Declaration of Independence showcased the rights and beliefs of the new country. It was a written record of what America would stand for, and it was signed by the nation's founding fathers.
Today, to honor the country's sovereignty, the gaggle presents a reading of the Declaration of independence. Here to read the country founding document are reporters and staff of the Arizona Republic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 25, 2025 • 15min
The Arizona Budget Battle
This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, hosts Ron Hansen and Mary Jo Pitzl speak with Republic reporters Stacey Barchenger and Ray Stern to explore the politics of this unusual Arizona Legislature budget cycle.
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Guests: Ray Stern, Stacey Barchenger
Host: Mary Jo Pitzl, Ronald J. Hansen
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Jun 18, 2025 • 15min
Meet the candidates looking to replace Rep. Raúl Grijalva
Early voting begins June 18 in the only federal race this year in Arizona. An election to fill the seat of the late U.S. Rep. Raúl Grijalva is underway in Arizona's Congressional District 7.
The race in southern Arizona has produced competitive primaries on both the Republican and Democratic sides, but most of the attention has been focused on three of the five Democrats seeking their party’s nod.
This week on The Gaggle, a weekly politics podcast, we break down the pros and cons of all the candidates on the ballot and explore how the race is shaping up so far.
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Guests: Laura Gersony
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