

The Enneagram Journey
Suzanne Stabile
Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
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Mentioned books

Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 17min
Dr. Molly (8) - Anxiety, Egregious Self Confidence, Grief and Loss
Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!
Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.
To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast!
It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone!
PLUG TIME
When Working Together Doesn't Work with Joey Schewee
Saturday, September 27 / 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
The Micah Center in Dallas or join Online
Join consultant and Enneagram Theorist, Joey Schewee of @enneagramparents, and co-facilitator of The Enneagram For The Modern World Cohort, ahead of the release of her book, When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers, for a day of Enneagram exploration. Joey will guide participants through her impactful take on triads, stances, and the core of her unique body of work: processing centers. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or well-versed in this wisdom, this workshop is thoughtfully designed to give all participants takeaways that are immediately and exponentially applicable.
CLICK HERE TO REGISTER IN PERSON OR ONLINE
Pre-order your copy of When Working Together Doesn't Work here on Amazon
TODAY'S INTRO
Anxiety by Doechii
Mean Girls (Paramount Pictures, 2004)
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (Columbia Pictures, 2006)

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 22min
Austin Channing Brown (9) - Foreboding Joy, Full Of Myself
Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!
Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.
Decision Making
Passive Aggressive Anger
Repressed Doing
Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!)
I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself
Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com !
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to.
The LTM Enneagram Cohort Program application deadline is September 1!
Small groups are about to begin, and the next round will start in December 2026
Enneagram and Spirituality in Charlotte in September
A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center
and so much more!
Today's Intro
Joy by for King + Country
The Office (NBC, s2, e8)
The Office (NBC, s7, e14)

Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
Q&A - July 2025
Q&A Episode in the house!
We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).
"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"
Then we get to talk about:
9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!
Gut Types
How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame
Essence v Personality
9s and Anger
and more!
Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact
PLUG TIME
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !
Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!
TODAY'S INTRO
Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures)
Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9)
Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022)

Jun 20, 2025 • 1h 16min
TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!
Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.
Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com
“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte
Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You
The Micah Center in Dallas, TX
August 29, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty
TODAY's INTRO
40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)

May 26, 2025 • 1h 8min
Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
Let's do some math.
2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!
Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.
Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
Parenting with the struggles of social media.
Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
aaaaaaaand more
"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS
You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)

May 15, 2025 • 1h 18min
Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!
The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!
How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more
"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."
- RH
To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
"Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9

May 8, 2025 • 1h 8min
Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!
As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?
"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS
"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)
SNL (NBC: s23, e11)
SNL (NBC: s17, e7)

May 1, 2025 • 1h 16min
Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).
Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one
Escaping to the future
What do you do when you're restless?
Balance
Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number
Do you respond to strangers online?
Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents
and more!
"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)
Laura Addis on TEJ Podcast
F.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18)

Apr 22, 2025 • 1h 19min
Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne!
If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
Other Plugs
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
You can find out what the podcast is up to and other offerings from Life in the Trinity Ministry by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com.
TODAY'S INTRO
Des Bishop - Mindfulness
F.R.I.E.N.D.S. (NBC, S4 E23)
"Indignant" - The Definition Channel
Darnell Young on TEJ Podcast

Feb 18, 2025 • 1h 2min
Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!).
PLUG TIME
Great events coming up:
TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or Online
The Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Beam Gallery
A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28 and March 1 in Nashville at Woodmont Christian Church
Relationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8 in South Carolina at Bethel UMC
2025 IEA Global Conference - July 25-25 in Minneapolis
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp - SAVE THE DATE! August 7-9 in Dallas and Online
Today's Intro
The Breakup (2006, Universal Pictures)
Scrubs (S3, E5)
American Dad (S10, E8)