

#IDIODC Instructional Designers In Offices Drinking Coffee
Chris Van Wingerden, Paul Schneider
Grab your favorite brew (ours is coffee ☕) and sit down with Paul Schneider and Chris Van Wingerden from dominKnow.
Together they unpack the real-world headaches L&D pros face — managing learning content production, operations, and proving business value.
Expect lively chats with guest experts and practical tips you can plug straight into your learning strategies or production workflows.
Whether you’re a veteran L&D leader or a brand-new instructional designer, tune in for strategic, technology, and business insights into L&D operational excellence.
Together they unpack the real-world headaches L&D pros face — managing learning content production, operations, and proving business value.
Expect lively chats with guest experts and practical tips you can plug straight into your learning strategies or production workflows.
Whether you’re a veteran L&D leader or a brand-new instructional designer, tune in for strategic, technology, and business insights into L&D operational excellence.
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Sep 7, 2022 • 49min
Drink'n'Draw: Creating Visual Languages for More Effective Training with Kevin Thorn
Communicating clearly is probably the most difficult thing anyone can do in business. Our job as Instructional Designers is often to make better communication happen under the guise of "we need everyone to be better trained on _______". It doesn't matter what level you are at within your training team or the overall organization. Everyone from the new intern to the experienced CLO needs to improve their ability to communicate complex ideas and concepts in order to influence others into action. This is where Visual Language Theory comes into play. Kevin Thorn joins us to explore concepts on how to better communicate ideas and transform those ideas into a visual language. One of the most important aspects of this process (and coincidentally in our ID work) is extracting you and your stakeholders' ideas and converting them into a universal visual language that your target audience will clearly understand. We'll discuss the entire process using old school "pen & paper" so that it's accessible to everyone including those professionals not interested in mastering new design tools.Join us for this session and find out how you can also get more in-depth instruction and training on these processes from Kevin at other events like DevLearn and StepAway.Desgin.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jul 20, 2022 • 49min
Understanding Organizational Enablement for Instructional Designers with Mike Simmons
The Organization Enablement movement is coming. But what is it? And how does this impact our role in corporate training learning and development?Since corporate culture starts at the top, here's a few questions to ask yourself.How are you facilitating growth in your organization? Do you define growth based on revenue? Or maybe it's based on the number of people in your organization.What if you defined it based on how your people are growing? Growth in fulfillment. Growth in satisfaction. Growth in impact.And what if you could enable, facilitate, create, and develop this growth?Mike Simmons joins us to answer these questions and help your organization make the transition. He will help us understand how organization enablement happens at the intersection of people, process, and technology. With a design oriented, customer driven approach, you can align process tools, so that your team thrives, customers thrive, and your business thrives.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jul 13, 2022 • 45min
Drink'n'Draw: Your Vacation While Building Visual Design Skills with Kevin Thorn
Our Drink'n'Draw host, Kevin Thorn, recently took his family to Disney World and he sketchnoted the entire experience. Of course he did.If you think this doesn't have any relationship or impact on your work, well, you'd be wrong.Analyzing business processes is a mandatory part of L&D work. We listen. We ask questions. We watch. And then magic happens... poof... instructional objectives are written.While that may be how your stakeholders see it, we all know the invisible magic is often a struggle in organizing data and working through business processes that often don't make sense. Most often these processes are trapped inside a SME's head and it's your job to get it out. Understand it. Document it. And then ask if that looks about right?You might already use a spreadsheet and outline the process, or maybe a flow charting app. But have you ever just wanted to sketch it out and get the first draft visual done quickly in order to get their feedback?Kevin Thorn joins us and offers an opportunity for you to practice your sketchnoting skills this summer. You're taking a vacation anyways, so you might as well do a little professional upskilling at the same time, right?And after the August IDIODC break, we expect to see examples of your work ;)Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jul 6, 2022 • 46min
Freelancing: 5 Tips for IDs Planning their Corporate Exit Strategy with Cara North
The corporate 9 to 5 isn't for everyone, and never has been. In a post-pandemic world nobody is even really sure what "work" looks like any more. Are you going back into the office? Maybe, you're in the office for half the week and working from home the other half. Or maybe not. It's been a frustrating experience for many, and a liberating experience for others.Why liberating? Well, some IDs used their "pandemic time" to work on making their dream of freelancing become a reality. And you can too. It's never too late. But before you up and quit your corporate gig, you might want to think this through a little more deeply. You should at least start by freelancing on the side. Doing that can open all kinds of possibilities and prepare you for what's in store.We've asked Cara North to join us and help everyone figure out and plan their future in freelance. It's a road traveled by many, but few are truly successful. Cara has 5 Tips that will get you started on the right path, with the right mindset, before you take the leap.We hope you join us for this career-building conversation.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jun 29, 2022 • 45min
Building Career Mobility for Frontline Workers with Matthew Daniel
Did you know the same percentage of employees who quit due to pay also quit for not having career advancement opportunities (63% - Pew Research)?We talk a lot about the technologies and processes used by instructional designers, but have you ever thought about how important your role is in providing career opportunities for others? It's easy to focus on the details of our work, and it's important to do so. However, looking a little further down the road at the great impact of our work for other professionals will help us all see the greater importance of what we do.Don't think of your course development as just another training course. Think of it as building an opportunity for someone to improve their career, and their life, and those around them.Matthew Daniel, Principle for the Career Mobility Center of Excellence at Guild Education, joins us to talk about what it takes to improve talent mobility on the frontline and create meaningful career and life opportunities for essential workers.Matthew has a broad set of interests including:-Talent Reskilling & Upskilling-Corporate Learning Strategy and Transformation-Learning Technology Ecosystems-Learner Experience Research-Talent Development and Mobility-Future of WorkWe're excited to have this conversation with Matthew, and hope you join us!Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jun 22, 2022 • 46min
Catching and Riding the Instructional Design Wave with Chuck Hodell
If you're new to Instructional Design, or a more experienced L&D professional, you've probably seen the need for our skills spike recently.There has never been a better time to be an Instructional Designer. Job growth is predicted to be at the top of the list of professional careers. Emerging technologies and a systemic migration of our definition of a learning space has created a wave of innovation like nothing before. The talent and creativity necessary to perform this work has never been more demanding, and sometimes unforgiving.As we think about the future, and our role as instructional designers we are often left wondering where technology and good design best intersect. Is the latest fad in technology worthy of our interest, or just another one-hit wonder? In this new wave of learning design, this tension only gets more pronounced.Joining us this week is Chuck Hodell to talk with us about riding the ISD Wave. We'll focus on how to find the best design solutions for our learning populations based on the competing interests of technology and clients. And how finding that balance is not as difficult as it might first seem to be. Just like riding the pipeline at Oahu, the Supertubes of Jeffrey’s Bay or the Mavericks in California; it just requires knowledge, timing and skill!Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jun 15, 2022 • 47min
Big Learning Results with Little Experiments with Shannon Tipton
Damn it, Jim! I'm an Instructional Designer! Not a scientist!That may be so, but it doesn't mean you can't perform experiments. Testing things out is how we learn. You can ask experts, consultants, and thought leaders, to give you all the answers, but you'll never truly know what will work until you do it. So, let's learn how to experiment within L&D.Trying things out first is how we gain the confidence to make decisions. And the biggest decision you need to make is how can you improve your work, your team, your training designs, and your career.Shannon Tipton joins us to talk about the insights she gained doing research with Laura Overton. In the middle of 2020 they asked 32 practitioners/thinkers from around the globe "How can L&D emerge stronger from the pandemic?"It turns out that the ability to experiment, try something new, fail fast and learn faster has been a characteristic of high performing learning teams throughout the disruption of the pandemic. Experiments in L&D are under-utilised and misunderstood. What they found is that the right experiments at the right time work. They release creativity and empower innovation through exploration.We'll discuss some of the follow elements of experimentation that YOU can use today:- The anatomy of a great experiment- How to take evidence informed risks- Who to involve and when- Why a pilot is not an experiment- Tactics that work (and don’t work)Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jun 8, 2022 • 45min
How L&D Can Build a Corporate Learning Culture with Andrew Barry
Building a learning culture is the latest trending priority within many organizations. It's a daunting task. However, it's not impossible. Even the smallest shift in the corporate culture towards a learning culture can offer significant outcomes. But where do we start?The most important step is to define a culture of learning within your organization. While there will be significant similarities at the strategic level for many companies, the systems, processes, and resources will be unique in each case. Once you've defined what the future learning culture should look like, then you should assess your current culture. You never know, you might already have a learning culture but it's just hidden beneath a tyranny of bureaucracy. So, let's start this conversation.Andrew Barry joins us to discuss his approach to developing learning cultures. You can read more and prepare for what to expect, at his substack: curiouslion.substack.com.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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Jun 1, 2022 • 48min
EnABLE the 5 Moments of Need with Conrad Gottfredson
In this episode of IDIODC we have the pleasure of talking with the founder of the 5 Moments of Need, Dr. Conrad Gottfredson.Dr. Gottfredson recently released a white paper titled EnABLE: The 5 Moments of Need Instructional Systems Design Methodology. And if you missed it, or have not downloaded it, I would encourage you to do so prior to this amazing episode of IDIODC.The brief white paper introduction describes it best:"When it comes to instructional design, most corporate learning programs still focus on knowledge rather than performance. Although gaining and retaining knowledge is an appropriate primary focus in academic institutions, the real world of work calls for a performance-first approach to Instructional Systems Design (ISD) where knowledge requirements are driven by what people need to do. With that in mind, we have spent the last four decades evolving traditional ISD practices into a performance-based instructional design methodology that we call EnABLE.EnABLE is the 5 Moments of Need instructional systems design methodology that empowers L&D groups to be the strategic partners their organizations require to adapt, to learn, and to perform ahead of change."Please join us for this incredible opportunity to meet and talk with Dr. Conrad Gottfredson.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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May 25, 2022 • 46min
How to Create Your L&D Measurement, Analytics and Reporting Strategy with David Vance
Building measurement skills is critical for corporate training professionals who seek to align their L&D programs to business outcomes for organizational success.Achieving measurement maturity is a change effort requiring commitment and discipline. Understanding your current capabilities and gaps is an essential first step followed by determining where your organization wants to go in this area. Once both are achieved, you will be able to develop your desired measurement and reporting strategy—the bridge between where you are today and where you aspire to be.David Vance has co-authored The Measurement Demystified Field Guide to be that bridge. And he joins IDIODC to discuss how to improve your measurement capability and advance the measurement maturity of your organization. We'll discuss, and refresh our minds, on the talent development reporting principles framework and measurement strategy. Did you even know about the Talent Development Reporting principals (TDRp)? Well, now you do. And you should learn more.And even if you don't think you'll ever want to move into management, you'll still benefit as an early career instructional designer or eLearning developer by hearing David's experiences in the world of learning and development.David founded Caterpillar University back in 2001. Until his retirement in 2007 he was responsible for ensuring that the right education, training and leadership were provided to achieve corporate goals and efficiently meet the learning needs of Caterpillar and dealer employees. And isn't that what we're all trying to accomplish? Even if you're a learning department of 1, you will benefit from this valuable conversation.Become virtual friends with the IDIODC gang on Twitter. Remember you can always stay in the loop by searching through the #IDIODC tag:Brent: @BSchlenkerChris: @Chris_V_WIDIODC: @TeamIDIODC Brent Schlenker is dominKnow's Community Manager. Chris Van Wingerden is dominKnow's Sr. VP Learning Solutions. Want to join us live? Follow us on Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/dominknow
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