
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast
For Humanity, An AI Safety Podcast is the the AI Safety Podcast for regular people. Peabody, duPont-Columbia and multi-Emmy Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2-10 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll name and meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
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Jun 17, 2024 • 4min
Episode #33 TRAILER - “Dad vs. AGI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
In episode 33 Trailer, host John Sherman talks with Dustin Burham, who is a dad, an anesthetist, an AI risk realist, and a podcast host himself about being a father while also understanding the realities of AI risk and the precarious moment we are living in.
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This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
TIMESTAMPS
Parental Concerns (00:00:00) A parent expresses worries about AI risks and emphasizes the need for cautious progress.
Risk Acceptance Threshold (00:00:50) The speaker discusses the acceptability of doom and risk in AI and robotics, drawing parallels with medical risk assessment.
Zero Risk Standard (00:01:34) The speaker emphasizes the medical industry's zero-risk approach and contrasts it with the industry's acceptance of potential doom.
Human Denial and Nuclear Brinksmanship (00:02:25) The power of denial and its impact on decision-making, including the tendency to ignore catastrophic possibilities.
Doom Prediction (00:03:17) The speakers express high levels of concern about potential doom in the future, with a 98% doom prediction for 50 years.
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Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 37min
Episode #32 - “Humans+AIs=Harmony?” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
Could humans and AGIs live in a state of mutual symbiosis, like the ecostsystem of a coral reef?
(FULL INTERVIEW STARTS AT 00:23:21)
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In episode 32, host John Sherman interviews BioComm AI CEO Peter Jensen. Peter is working on a number of AI-risk related projects. He believes it’s possible humans and AGIs can co-exist in mutual symbiosis.
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
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NYT: OpenAI Insiders Warn of a ‘Reckless’ Race for Dominance
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/technology/openai-culture-whistleblowers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.xE0._mTr.aNO4f_hEp2J4&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
Dwarkesh Patel Interviews Another Whistleblower
Leopold Aschenbrenner - 2027 AGI, China/US Super-Intelligence Race, & The Return of History
Roman Yampolskiy on Lex Fridman
Roman Yampolskiy: Dangers of Superintelligent AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #431
Gladstone AI on Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan Experience #2156 - Jeremie & Edouard Harris
Peter Jenson’s Videos:
HOW can AI Kill-us-All? So Simple, Even a Child can Understand (1:25)
WHY do we want AI? For our Humanity (1:00)
WHAT is the BIG Problem? Wanted: SafeAI Forever (3:00)
FIRST do no harm. (Safe AI Blog)
DECK. On For Humanity Podcast “Just the FACTS, please. WHY? WHAT? HOW?” (flip book)
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
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TIMESTAMPS:
**The release of products that are safe (00:00:00)**
**Breakthroughs in AI research (00:00:41)**
**OpenAI whistleblower concerns (00:01:17)**
**Roman Yampolskiy's appearance on Lex Fridman podcast (00:02:27)**
**The capabilities and risks of AI systems (00:03:35)**
**Interview with Gladstone AI founders on Joe Rogan podcast (00:08:29)**
**OpenAI whistleblower's interview on Hard Fork podcast (00:14:08)**
**Peter Jensen's work on AI risk and media communication (00:20:01)**
**The interview with Peter Jensen (00:22:49)**
**Mutualistic Symbiosis and AI Containment (00:31:30)**
**The Probability of Catastrophic Outcome from AI (00:33:48)**
**The AI Safety Institute and Regulatory Efforts (00:42:18)**
**Regulatory Compliance and the Need for Safety (00:47:12)**
**The hard compute cap and hardware adjustment (00:47:47)**
**Physical containment and regulatory oversight (00:48:29)**
**Viewing the issue as a big business regulatory issue vs. a national security issue (00:50:18)**
**Funding and science for AI safety (00:49:59)**
**OpenAI's power allocation and ethical concerns (00:51:44)**
**Concerns about AI's impact on employment and societal well-being (00:53:12)**
**Parental instinct and the urgency of AI safety (00:56:32)**

Jun 10, 2024 • 3min
Episode #32 TRAILER - “Humans+AIs=Harmony?” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
Could humans and AGIs live in a state of mutual symbiosis, like the ecostsystem of a coral reef?
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In episode 32, host John Sherman interviews BioComm AI CEO Peter Jensen. Peter is working on a number of AI-risk related projects. He believes it’s possible humans and AGIs can co-exist in mutual symbiosis.
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
Peter Jensen’s Video: HOW can AI Kill-us-All? So Simple, Even a Child can Understand (1:25) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrIfCQBgdE

Jun 5, 2024 • 1h 16min
Episode #31 - “Trucker vs. AGI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
In Episode #31 John Sherman interviews a 29-year-old American truck driver about his concerns over human extinction and artificial intelligence. They discuss the urgency of raising awareness about AI risks, the potential job displacement in industries like trucking, and the geopolitical implications of AI advancements. Leighton shares his plans to start a podcast and possibly use filmmaking to engage the public in AI safety discussions. Despite skepticism from others, they stress the importance of community and dialogue in understanding and mitigating AI threats, with Leighton highlighting the risk of a "singleton event" and ethical concerns in AI development.
Full Interview Starts at (00:10:18)
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This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
Timestamps
- Layton's Introduction (00:00:00)
- Introduction to the Podcast (00:02:19)
- Power of the First Followers (00:03:24)
- Layton's Concerns about AI (00:08:49)
- Layton's Background and AI Awareness (00:11:11)
- Challenges in Spreading Awareness (00:14:18)
- Distrust of Government and Family Involvement (00:23:20)
- Government Imperfections (00:25:39)
- AI Impact on National Security (00:26:45)
- AGI Decision-Making (00:28:14)
- Government Oversight of AGI (00:29:32)
- Geopolitical Tension and AI (00:31:51)
- Job Loss and AGI (00:37:20)
- AI, Mining, and Space Race (00:38:02)
- Public Engagement and AI (00:44:34)
- Philosophical Perspective on AI (00:49:45)
- The existential threat of AI (00:51:05)
- Geopolitical tensions and AI risks (00:52:05)
- AI's potential for global dominance (00:53:48)
- Ethical concerns and AI welfare (01:01:21)
- Preparing for AI risks (01:03:02)
- The challenge of raising awareness (01:06:42)
- A hopeful outlook (01:08:28)
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Jun 3, 2024 • 5min
Episode #31 TRAILER - “Trucker vs. AGI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
Episode #31 TRAILER - “Trucker vs. AGI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
In Episode #31 TRAILER, John Sherman interviews a 29-year-old American truck driver about his concerns over human extinction and artificial intelligence.
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This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
Timestamps
The challenge of keeping up (00:00:00) Discussion about the difficulty of staying informed amidst busy lives and the benefit of using podcasts to keep up.
The impact of social media bubbles (00:01:22) Exploration of how social media algorithms create bubbles and the challenge of getting others to pay attention to important information.
Geopolitical implications of technological advancements (00:02:00) Discussion about the potential implications of technological advancements, particularly in relation to artificial intelligence and global competition.
Potential consequences of nationalizing AGI (00:04:21) Speculation on the potential consequences of nationalizing artificial general intelligence and the potential use of a pandemic to gain a competitive advantage.
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
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May 29, 2024 • 1h 40min
Episode #30 - “Dangerous Days At Open AI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
Exploration of AI safety competence at Open AI and the shift to AI Risk. Challenges in achieving super alignment, unethical behavior in powerful organizations, and navigating AI ethics and regulation. Risks of AI biothreats, uncertainties in AI development, and debates on human vs AI intelligence limits.

May 27, 2024 • 3min
Episode #30 - “Dangerous Days At Open AI” For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast
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In episode 30, John Sherman interviews Professor Olle Häggström on a wide range of AI risk topics. At the top of the list is the super-instability and the super-exodus from OpenAI’s super alignment team following the resignations of Jan Lieke and Ilya Sutskyver.
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
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May 22, 2024 • 1h 7min
Episode #29 - “Drop Everything To Stop AGI” For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast
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The world is waking up to the existential danger of unaligned AGI. But we are racing against time. Some heroes are stepping up, people like this week’s guest Chris Gerrby. Chris was successful in organizing people against AI in Sweden. In early May he left Sweden, moved to England, and is now spending 14 hours a day 7 days a week to stop AGI. Learn how he plans to grow Pause AI as its new Chief Growth Officer and his thoughts on how to make the case for pausing AI.
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
Timestamps:
imestamps:
Dropping Everything to Stop AGI (00:00:00) Chris Gerbe's dedication to working 14 hours a day to pause AI and the challenges he faces.
OpenAI's Recent Events (00:01:11)
Paused AI and Chris Gerrby's Involvement (00:05:28)
Chris Gerrbys Journey and Involvement in AI Safety (00:06:44)
Coping with the Dark Outlook of AI Risk (00:19:02)
Beliefs About AGI Timeline (00:24:06)
The pandemic risk (00:25:30)
Losing control of AGI (00:26:40)
Stealth control and treacherous turn (00:28:38)
Relocation and intense work schedule (00:30:20)
Growth strategy for PAI (00:33:39)
Marketing and public relations (00:35:35)
Tailoring communications and gaining members (00:39:41)
Challenges in communicating urgency (00:44:36)
Path to growth for Pause AI (00:48:51)
Joining the Pause AI community (00:49:57)
Community involvement and support (00:50:33)
Pause AI's role in the AI landscape (00:51:22)
Maintaining work-life balance (00:53:47)
Adapting personal goals for the cause (00:55:50)
Probability of achieving a pause in AI development (00:57:50)
Finding hope in personal connections (01:00:24)
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
Statement on AI Risk | CAIS
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May 20, 2024 • 3min
Episode #29 TRAILER - “Drop Everything To Stop AGI” For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast
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The world is waking up to the existential danger of unaligned AGI. But we are racing against time. Some heroes are stepping up, people like this week’s guest Chris Gerrby. Chris was successful in organizing people against AI in Sweden. In early May he left Sweden, moved to England, and is now spending 14 hours a day 7 days a week to stop AGI. Learn how he plans to grow Pause AI as its new Chief Growth Officer and his thoughts on how to make the case for pausing AI.
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
Timestamps:
Tailoring Communication (00:00:51) The challenge of convincing others about the importance of a cause and the need to tailor communications to different audiences.
Audience Engagement (00:02:13) Discussion on tailoring communication strategies to different audiences, including religious people, taxi drivers, and artists.
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
Statement on AI Risk | CAIS
https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk
Best Account on Twitter: AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes
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May 15, 2024 • 1h 30min
Episode #28 - “AI Safety Equals Emergency Preparedness” For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast
Episode #28 - “AI Safety Equals Emergency Preparedness” For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast
Full Interview Starts At: (00:09:54)
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BIG IDEA ALERT: This week’s show has something really big and really new. What if AI Safety didn’t have to carve out a new space in government–what if it could fit into already existing budgets. Emergency Preparedness–in the post 9-11 era–is a massively well funded area of federal and state government here in the US. There are agencies and organizations and big budgets already created to fund the prevention and recovery from disasters of all kinds, asteroids, pandemics, climate-related, terrorist-related, the list goes on an on.
This week’s guest, AI Policy Researcher Akash Wasil, has had more than 80 meetings with congressional staffers about AI existential risk. In Episode 28 trailer, he goes over his framing of AI Safety as Emergency Preparedness, the US vs. China race dynamic, and the vibes on Capitol Hill about AI risk. What does congress think of AI risk?
This podcast is not journalism. But it’s not opinion either. This is a long form public service announcement. This show simply strings together the existing facts and underscores the unthinkable probable outcome, the end of all life on earth.
For Humanity: An AI Safety Podcast, is the accessible AI Safety Podcast for all humans, no tech background required. Our show focuses solely on the threat of human extinction from AI.
Peabody Award-winning former journalist John Sherman explores the shocking worst-case scenario of artificial intelligence: human extinction. The makers of AI openly admit it their work could kill all humans, in as soon as 2 years. This podcast is solely about the threat of human extinction from AGI. We’ll meet the heroes and villains, explore the issues and ideas, and what you can do to help save humanity.
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TIMESTAMPS:
**Emergency Preparedness in AI (00:00:00)**
**Introduction to the Podcast (00:02:49)**
**Discussion on AI Risk and Disinformation (00:06:27)**
**Engagement with Lawmakers and Policy Development (00:09:54)**
**Control AI's Role in AI Risk Awareness (00:19:00)**
**Engaging with congressional offices (00:25:00)**
**Establishing AI emergency preparedness office (00:32:35)**
**Congressional focus on AI competitiveness (00:37:55)**
**Expert opinions on AI risks (00:40:38)**
**Commerce vs. national security (00:42:41)**
**US AI Safety Institute's placement (00:46:33)**
**Expert concerns and raising awareness (00:50:34)**
**Influence of protests on policy (00:57:00)**
**Public opinion on AI regulation (01:02:00)**
**Silicon Valley Culture vs. DC Culture (01:05:44)**
**International Cooperation and Red Lines (01:12:34)**
**Eliminating Race Dynamics in AI Development (01:19:56)**
**Government Involvement for AI Development (01:22:16)**
**Compute-Based Licensing Proposal (01:24:18)**
**AI Safety as Emergency Preparedness (01:27:43)**
**Closing Remarks (01:29:09)**
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22 Word Statement from Center for AI Safety
Statement on AI Risk | CAIS
https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk
Best Account on Twitter: AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes
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