
Hunger for Wholeness
Story matters. Our lives are shaped around immersive, powerful stories that thrive at the heart of our religious traditions, scientific inquiries, and cultural landscapes. As Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein claimed, science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind. This podcast will hear from speakers in interdisciplinary fields of science and religion who are finding answers for how to live wholistic lives. This podcast is made possible by funding from the Fetzer Institute. We are very grateful for their generosity and support. (Image credit: X-ray: NASA/CXC; Ultraviolet: NASA/JPL-Caltech/SSC; Optical: NASA/STScI [M. Meixner]/ESA/NRAO [T.A. Rector]; Infrared: NASA/JPL-Caltech/K.)
Latest episodes

May 29, 2023 • 32min
Composting Religion and Creative Spirituality with Brie Stoner (Part 1)
Hunger for Wholeness: Composting Religion and Creative Spirituality with Brie Stoner (Part 1)Ilia Delio interviews multi-talented musician Brie Stoner about “composting” old forms of religious experience, and how creativity can lead us into renewed forms of spirituality. They discuss relational wholeness, eros, and the body’s role in spiritual life. Plus, enjoy a few small peaks into Brie’s musical textures throughout this episode.ABOUT BRIE STONER“We need to free the monstrous within us. It should be seen not as a problem, but as an opportunity.”Brie Stoner is a musician and songwriter who pulls from her multilingual and multicultural background in her indie dream-rock music. As a musician, Stoner has worked with producers Jay Bennett (Wilco) and most recently David Vandervelde (Father John Misty, Secretly Canadian) who produced her new album. Stoner’s music has also been featured by Victoria Secret, Orange is The New Black, The Affair, as well as many other international TV and film campaigns. As a writer, her work has been featured in “The Call To Unite: Voices of hope and Awakening,” a book featuring inspirational voices such as Oprah, Tim Shriver, Elizabeth Gilbert and many more. Brie was a co-host to the “Another Name for Every Thing” podcast which garnered millions of downloads, before launching her own podcast “Unknowing” in 2021, exploring the path of creative possibility in conversation with artists, authors, and activists. Her new single “Loved Me Like a Weapon” is out now! Her new album ME VEO will be out in late 2023.Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

May 22, 2023 • 33min
Evolution, Biology and Spirituality with Rupert Sheldrake (Part 2)
In Part 2, Ilia, Robert and Rupert discuss evolution, faith and Rupert’s Anglican spirituality. They ask how religion and science can work together in a more integrated framework, and Rupert has the last word on how our quest for digital immortality is coming full circle.ABOUT RUPERT SHELDRAKE“I'd see the evolutionary processes as interplay between two fundamental principles, namely habits and creativity.”Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 90 scientific papers and nine books, and the co-author of six books. His books have been published in 28 languages. He was among the top 100 Global Thought Leaders for 2013, as ranked by the Duttweiler Institute, Zurich, Switzerland's leading think tank. For ten years running he has been recognized as one of the “most spiritually influential living people in the world” by Watkins Mind Body Spirit magazine. His work has been featured in many magazines, newspapers and broadcast media, including New Scientist, The Guardian, Discover magazine, The Spectator, The Washington Post, Die Zeit and on BBC radio and television.Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

May 16, 2023 • 32min
Morphic Resonance and Telephone Telepathy with Rupert Sheldrake (Part 1)
Hunger for Wholeness: Morphic Resonance and Telephone Telepathy with Rupert Sheldrake (Part 1)In Part 1, Ilia and Robert interview biologist and author Rupert Sheldrake about his most well-known concept, morphic resonance and his studies in human telepathy. They discuss the ideals of scientific inquiry, and what impact his ideas might have on everyday life if they were more broadly accepted by the scientific community.ABOUT RUPERT SHELDRAKE“Science at its best is an open-minded method of inquiry, not a belief system.”Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 90 scientific papers and nine books, and the co-author of six books. His books have been published in 28 languages. He was among the top 100 Global Thought Leaders for 2013, as ranked by the Duttweiler Institute, Zurich, Switzerland's leading think tank. For ten years running he has been recognized as one of the “most spiritually influential living people in the world” by Watkins Mind Body Spirit magazine. His work has been featured in many magazines, newspapers and broadcast media, including New Scientist, The Guardian, Discover magazine, The Spectator, The Washington Post, Die Zeit and on BBC radio and television.Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

May 8, 2023 • 31min
Discovering New Futures with Diana Butler Bass (Part 2)
In this episode, Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview with historian and religious scholar Diana Butler Bass. We resume Part Two with Ilia and Diana discussing the outlook of Silicon Valley, Teilhard’s scientific vision, and the enlightenment that comes from research and discovery.ABOUT DIANA BUTLER BASS:Diana Butler Bass, Ph.D., is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University and is the author of eleven books. Her work has received two Wilbur Awards for best nonfiction book of the year, awards from Religion News Association for individual commentary and for Book of the Year, Nautilus Awards Silver and Gold medals, the Illumination Book Award Silver medal, Books for a Better Life Award, Book of the Year of the Academy of Parish Clergy, the Frank S. and Elizabeth D. Brewer Prize for Church History, Substack Fellowship for Independent Writers, and Publishers Weekly’s Best Religion Book of the Year.“Christianity did not begin with a confession. It began with an invitation into friendship, into creating a new community, into forming relationships based on love and service.”Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

May 1, 2023 • 31min
The Diversities of Christian Experience with Diana Butler Bass (Part 1)
In this episode, Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview Diana Butler Bass, in "The Diversities of Christian Experience." In Part One, they discuss the state of the church, its colonial legacy, and the opportunities and challenges of burgeoning Christian diversities in a globalized world. ABOUT DIANA BUTLER BASS:Diana Butler Bass, Ph.D., is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University and is the author of eleven books. Her work has received two Wilbur Awards for best nonfiction book of the year, awards from Religion News Association for individual commentary and for Book of the Year, Nautilus Awards Silver and Gold medals, the Illumination Book Award Silver medal, Books for a Better Life Award, Book of the Year of the Academy of Parish Clergy, the Frank S. and Elizabeth D. Brewer Prize for Church History, Substack Fellowship for Independent Writers, and Publishers Weekly’s Best Religion Book of the Year.“Christianity did not begin with a confession. It began with an invitation into friendship, into creating a new community, into forming relationships based on love and service.”Diana Butler BassSupport the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

Apr 24, 2023 • 27min
Our Conscious Experience of the Transcendent with Fr. Richard Rohr (Part 2)
Hunger for Wholeness returns with Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview ecumenical teacher and author Fr. Richard Rohr.In Part 2, of our interview with Fr. Richard Rohr, we dig deeper into our conscious experience of the transcendent and the challenges of truth and community in our age.Bio: Fr. Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher. His mission and ministry has been to bear witness to the deep wisdom of Christian mysticism and traditions of action and contemplation. Founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, Fr. Richard teaches how God’s grace guides us to our birthright as beings made of Divine Love. He is the author of numerous books, including The Universal Christ, The Wisdom Pattern, Just This, and Falling Upward .“God is always bigger than the boxes we build for God, so we should not waste too much time protecting the boxes.” Richard RohrFor more information about Richard's work visit: https://cac.org/ At the Center for Christogenesis we are in the midst of our June fundraiser. Your support empowers us to offer transformative resources, host thought-provoking events, and build a global community of seekers dedicated to co-creating a more unified, compassionate world. If our content nourishes you, please consider making a contribution. Visit christogenesis.org/donate to learn more and give.Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

Apr 17, 2023 • 30min
Indigenous Spiritualities and Christian Experience with Richard Rohr (Part 1)
Hunger for Wholeness returns with Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview ecumenical teacher and author Fr. Richard Rohr.In Part 1, Ilia asks Richard about his past and the influence of different traditions on his inspirational work. They discuss indigenous spirituality and the role of symbols and the importance of the experiential for contemporary Christian renewal.Bio: Fr. Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher. His mission and ministry has been to bear witness to the deep wisdom of Christian mysticism and traditions of action and contemplation. Founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, Fr. Richard teaches how God’s grace guides us to our birthright as beings made of Divine Love. He is the author of numerous books, including The Universal Christ, The Wisdom Pattern, Just This, and Falling Upward .“God is always bigger than the boxes we build for God, so we should not waste too much time protecting the boxes.” Richard RohrFor more information about Richard's work visit: https://cac.org/ At the Center for Christogenesis we are in the midst of our June fundraiser. Your support empowers us to offer transformative resources, host thought-provoking events, and build a global community of seekers dedicated to co-creating a more unified, compassionate world. If our content nourishes you, please consider making a contribution. Visit christogenesis.org/donate to learn more and give.Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

Mar 20, 2023 • 28min
Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters (Part 2)
Hosts Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro on "Love on a Complexifying Planet with Ted Peters" Part TwoAbout Ted PetersTed Peters is author of UFOs: God's Chariots? Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Religious Yearnings in the Age of Extraterrestrials (Career Press New Page Books, 2014). He is co-editor of two recent books, Astrotheology: Where Science and Theology Meet Extraterrestrial Life (Cascade Books, 2018) as well as Astrobiology: Science, Ethics, and Public Policy (Scrivener 2021). Ted is a systematic theologian who specializes in the interaction between science and religion. He currently teaches theology and ethics in Berkeley, California, at the Graduate Theological Union and serves as co-editor of the journal, Theology and Science. Visit his website, TedsTimelyTake.com, and his blogsite https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publictheology/. “Think cosmically! Think about Astrobiology, Ufology, and the Future of Earth in our Galactic Neighborhood.”Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

Mar 13, 2023 • 34min
Theology in Cyberspace with Ted Peters (Part 1)
Hunger for Wholeness Hosts Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview Ted Peters on "Theology in Cyberspace " Part One.About Ted PetersTed Peters is author of UFOs: God's Chariots? Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Religious Yearnings in the Age of Extraterrestrials (Career Press New Page Books, 2014). He is co-editor of two recent books, Astrotheology: Where Science and Theology Meet Extraterrestrial Life (Cascade Books, 2018) as well as Astrobiology: Science, Ethics, and Public Policy (Scrivener 2021). Ted is a systematic theologian who specializes in the interaction between science and religion. He currently teaches theology and ethics in Berkeley, California, at the Graduate Theological Union and serves as co-editor of the journal, Theology and Science. Visit his website, TedsTimelyTake.com, and his blogsite https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publictheology/. “Think cosmically! Think about Astrobiology, Ufology, and the Future of Earth in our Galactic Neighborhood.”Support the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.

Mar 6, 2023 • 25min
Post-Materialism in Tech, Healthcare and Social Justice with Dr. Marjorie Woollacott (Part 2)
Ilia Delio and Robert Nicastro interview neuroscientist and author Marjorie Woollacott. In Part 2, Ilia, Robert and Majorie discuss the need for a deeper, relational ontology of our conscious experience to promote healthier relationships between our bodies and the world. Robert and Ilia also ask Marjorie about the challenges of introducing post-materialism to modern medicine and how post-materialism furthers social justice.Bio: Marjorie Woollacott, Ph.D., is prior chair of the Dept. of Human Physiology, and member of the Institute of Neuroscience, at the University of Oregon. She is President of the Academy for the Advancement of Post-Materialist Sciences and Research Director for the International Association of Near-Death Studies. Woollacott has received over 7.2 million dollars in research funding for her research in rehabilitation medicine, meditation, spiritual awakening and end-of-life experiences, has published scientific articles and written nine books, including Infinite Awareness and Spiritual Awakenings: Scientists and Academics Describe Their Experiences."The experiences I and others have had may not fit into theories of traditional neuroscience, but if they are true, and I believe they are, it is time for neuroscience theory to expand." Marjorie WoollacottSupport the showA huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! Support for A Hunger for Wholeness comes from the Fetzer Institute. Fetzer supports a movement of organizations who are applying spiritual solutions to society's toughest problems. Get involved at fetzer.org. Visit the Center for Christogenesis' website at christogenesis.org/podcast to browse all Hunger for Wholeness episodes and read more from Ilia Delio. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for episode releases and other updates.