
Changelog & Friends
A weekend talk show with the best conference hallway track vibes
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May 16, 2025 • 1h 44min
#define: I'm going pants
Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. We’ve gathered some awesome friends, new and old, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick the everyone else into thinking that they do.
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Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Outshift by Cisco – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows.
Featuring:Angelica Hill – GitHub, LinkedIn, XMatthew Sanabria – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJohn Henry Müller – GitHub, LinkedIn, Bluesky, MastodonBreakmaster Cylinder – Website, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
He Who Gets Slapped (1924)
He Who Gets Changelog Beats (2025)
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May 9, 2025 • 1h 42min
Kaizen! Tip of the Pipely
Gerhard Lazu is a developer focused on turning Jerod’s ambitious vision of Pipely into reality. In their chat, they tackle the hilarious hiccups of launching a new project amid connectivity woes. They dive into the complexities of website performance testing and CDN challenges, offering insights on deployment issues and scaling server operations. The discussion reveals strategies for optimizing user experiences and the excitement surrounding their upcoming Kaizen launch party in Denver, leaving everyone eager for the next milestone.

May 2, 2025 • 1h 40min
When life gives you LLMs...
Zeno Rocha, an engineer and co-founder of Resend, joins the conversation to dive deep into the peculiarities of email etiquette and the challenges of email design across platforms. He passionately discusses the emerging landscape of AI SEO and the potential pitfalls of language models, emphasizing the importance of authenticity in technology. Zeno also explores the innovative features of the newly introduced SLATE Auto, a modular electric pickup truck, and its impact on the future of personal vehicles.

Apr 25, 2025 • 1h 15min
Hello, Matworld!
Mat Ryer, a beloved friend known for his humor and musical flair, joins the conversation for a whimsical journey into imaginary realms. They create vibrant worlds like 'Matt World,' where bizarre laws govern daily life, while discussing futuristic gadgets and the charms of productivity tools. Hilarious anecdotes about culinary disasters and quirky competitive conflict resolutions keep the laughter rolling. With playful banter and cultural contrasts, the talk blends technology with lighthearted imagination.

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 31min
Vibing into the vibe
Nick Nisi joins us to confess his AI subscription glut, drool over some cool new hardware gadgets, discuss why the TypeScript team chose Go for their new compiler, opine on the React team’s complicated relationship with Vercel, suggest people try Astro, update us on his browser habits, and more.
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Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond.
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Featuring:Nick Nisi – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Godwin’s law - Wikipedia
Gitingest
Raycast
Maccy
BUSY Bar
Flipper Zero
The Casio Secret Sender
Game Genie - Wikipedia
Why Go? · microsoft/typescript-go
Astro
Framer
Eleventy
Use long flags when scripting
ZEN browser
Apple’s Acquisition of Pixelmator is Complete
The Dysfunctional Developer
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Apr 12, 2025 • 1h 40min
Proud pod parents
Richard Moot joins us to discuss Changelog helping Square launch a developer pod and the excitement around MCP (Model Context Protocol) servers. What might it foretell about the future of human/robot relations?
Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond.
Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Augment Code – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
Featuring:Richard Moot – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
The Square Developer Podcast
Rhea Lana on Scaling a Pop-Up Business to 120 Franchises
The Bottom Line
Square Developer on YouTube
Fireside Chat with Jack Dorsey & Adam Stacoviak
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Apr 4, 2025 • 1h 10min
Turn him into a walrus
Jerod turns Adam into Lego, a Walrus, and a Walrus in the style of Studio Ghibli…and so much more. This is a good one to watch on YouTube.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Augment Code – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
Depot – Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time.
Notion – Notion is a place where any team can write, plan, organize, and rediscover the joy of play. It’s a workspace designed not just for making progress, but getting inspired. Notion is for everyone — whether you’re a Fortune 500 company or freelance designer, starting a new startup or a student juggling classes and clubs.
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Featuring:Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Adam Pictures:
Adam as golfer
Adam as LEGO
Adam as walrus
Adam as Ghibli walrus
Adam all forms
Min Browser mentioned on Friends #76
Introducing 4o Image Generation | OpenAI
Lynyrd Skynyrd – That Smell Lyrics
Show HN: I vibecoded a 35k LoC recipe app
Recipe Ninja
Revisit / Catch-Up Episodes
Haml, Sass, Compass (Changelog #1)
The Go Programming Language with Rob Pike (Changelog #3)
Document Cloud and Underscore.js with Jeremy Ashkenas (Changelog #5)
10gen and MongoDB (Changelog #7)
Interview or an ad?
I Accidentally Became A Meme: Disaster Girl
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Mar 28, 2025 • 1h 38min
Of agents & agency
Long-time JS Party panelist Amal Hussein joins Jerod to catch up on her career path, to opine on the viability agentic coding, to feel all the feelings that AI brings out of us as developers, and to share something new in her life that changes everything.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 8 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Heroku – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond.
Depot – Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time.
Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Featuring:Amal Hussein – GitHub, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Revenge of the junior developer
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Mar 21, 2025 • 2h 3min
Here's my Siri theory
Justin Searls from Breaking Change joins the show to discuss Apple’s Intelligence blunder, the end of the good times in the tech industry, and POSSE Party, his in-progress product that lets “any dummy with a website enjoy a life of algorithm-free luxury.”
Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Augment Code – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
Featuring:Justin Searls – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Breaking Change
Daring Fireball: Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino
Michael Tsai - Blog - Rotten
The nervous Craig Federighi’s “Back to the Mac” presentation for Apple
This Vision Pro strap is totally globular!
The good times in tech are over
You’re invited to my POSSE party!
Vision Pro Creator Taking Over Siri After Apple Intelligence Setbacks
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Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 48min
Friends on the frontend
Adam’s friend on the frontend, John Long joins the show to explore his usage of AI, design tools and the stack he prefers. We talk Next.js vs Rails, maintaining open source, building websites with Framer, their mutual love for Figma, and more.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Augment Code – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
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Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
Featuring:John Long – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Radiant GitHub
Framer
Opine
Opine Docs - Getting Started Guide
Lovable
Gierd
Generated Photos
Zest Icons
Iconic
Heroicons
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