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Nov 6, 2023 • 30min

Episode 193: Future 50 Series – Onit’s AI Center of Excellence

In this session, we spoke with Jean Yang, the VP and Co-founder of Onit’s AI Center of Excellence. The Center is a note-worthy offering from a software vendor. Jean’s journey to Onit seems like it was a natural progression. A former practising lawyer from New Zealand, she has spent most of her career so far (there’s lots more still to come) at the leading edge of AI in legal and, that has now taken her to Onit in Austin, Texas. Our discussion focussed on the application of AI in legal - how much that has changed this past year; emerging trends in AI uptake; whether it’s realistic to expect definitive use cases right now; and the challenges, opportunities, needs, expectations and reality of the tech becoming pervasive/BAU in the legal world next year or maybe later - it’s hard to look too far ahead in this space right now but we did a little AI crystal ball gazing! If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you’ll find the video here. About the Future 50 Series In the Future 50 Series, we’re chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world. If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: CLI@collaw.edu.au.
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Nov 3, 2023 • 40min

Episode 192: Future 50 Series – Legal Leaders, Teams, Innovation and Collaboration

In this session, we spoke with Michele DeStefano about how we can approach change, manage it and leverage it for the benefit of lawyer and allied legal professional wellbeing, for our clients, and legal businesses.  Michele knows a thing or two about this from her many roles as law professor, business founder, educator, consultant, and serial entrepreneur. Her work is visionary tempered with a strong dose of reality and, getting stuff done! Michele has been building the foundations, paving the road, and walking the talk of legal ecosystem transformation for many years and, helping others to do that successfully too. We discussed what it will take to change the legal industry, the BIG pieces of the change puzzle - lawyer mindset, human-centred design, multidisciplinary collaboration and culture. We also chatted about how to combine the pieces in a way that creates sustained agility in a VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous) world, it can be found in her most recent book (one of many already published with more to come), The Leader Upheaval Handbook: Lead Teams on an Innovation & Collaboration Journey with the 3-4-5 Method. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you’ll find the video here. About the Future 50 Series In the Future 50 Series, we’re chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world. If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: CLI@collaw.edu.au.
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Nov 1, 2023 • 50min

Episode 191: The importance of being human in a legal AI world!

It’s easy to get all caught up in the shiny new tech. It’s exciting and even a little mesmerizing, but the change it brings, demands and expects has a very real and human face too. In this podcast, Isabel Parker, Legal innovator, author and LawTech UK panel member closed out the Summit with her timely, important and candid reminder of the need to keep an unwavering focus on our humanity in a human+ legal world. This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 1h 2min

Episode 190: Legal Generative AI in 2024…

So much has happened in tech/AI and the legal world in a year! Will 2024 see GenAI being more impactful, less impactful, the same? And where, what, how and when will it impact? In this podcast, Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin and CLI Advisory Board Co-Chair gazed into the crystal ball to help you get prepared, and discussed what’s next with these legal industry gurus: Stuart Fuller, Global Head of Legal Services and Asia-Pacific Regional Leader for Legal Services, KPMG Hilary Goodier, Partner and Co-Head, Ashurst Advance, Ashurst and CLI Advisory Board Member Uwais Iqbal, Founder, simplexico Rajesh Sreenivasan, Head, Technology Media and Telecoms Law Practice, Rajah & Tann Singapore LLP, Director & Co-Founder of Rajah & Tann Technologies Pte Ltd and Rajah & Tann Cybersecurity Pte Ltd, Board Member, Mediacorp Pte Ltd and CLI Advisory Board Member This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 1h

Episode 189: Legal Education Reinvented: No pens, no paper, no professors?

We don’t have the capabilities we need to deliver legal services/products or solutions in a digital world. So what are legal educators doing about this and how quickly can they individually/collectively bridge the gap? In this podcast, Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships at Lander & Rogers discussed how legal education is changing in the face of GenAI with these leading academics and pracademics in law:  Aaron Baer, Co-Founder and Corporate Law Instructor, 4L Academy Stephen Colbran, Head of the College of Law, Criminology and Justice, Dean of Law, CQUniversity Ann-Maree David, Executive Director, College of Law Queensland Tania Leiman, Professor & Dean of Law, College of Business, Government and Law, Flinders University This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 58min

Episode 188: Emerging Legal AI Roles – adding, subtracting, coming, going…and everything, everywhere in between!

Gen AI has reinvented the legal workforce. We’re seeing old roles expand, new roles emerge and some disappear too. So how is the legal industry preparing for this? What are the new talent strategies, capabilities, perspectives, retrospectives and yes, everything in between? In this podcast, Sam Burrett, Legal Optimisation Consulting at MinterEllison explored the new world of legal talent with these fabulous ‘people centred’ innovators: Jan Christie, Director, Capability + Organisational Development, Gilbert + Tobin Schellie-Jayne (SJ) Price, Partner, Stirling & Rose and CLI Advisory Board Member Nam Truong, Digital + Innovation, Law Squared Tessa van Duyn, CEO and Practice Leader, Moores This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here. Resources mentioned in this episode: Harvard computer science course for lawyers OpenAI prompt engineering course An easier way to experience to functionality of semantic search
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Oct 30, 2023 • 1h

Episode 187: Experimentation – is it the next collaborative legal practice?

The podcast discusses the integration of experimentation into the legal industry, including approaches to experimentation, funding challenges, experiments with document review and drafting, techniques for capturing experiment learnings, creating the right balance in experimentation groups, the use of Co-Pilot for drafting, AI's impact on the legal industry and upskilling lawyers, and the review and extraction process.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 59min

Episode 186: Legal professional responsibility in the digital age – critical, outdated or redundant?

What is the new and emerging role of regulatory authorities in a GenAI world? Who should be regulated (lawyers and paralegals)? Should the provision of legal services/products/solutions remain a duopoly? Should tech/AI competency be mandated? What does legal professional responsibility mean in contemporary legal practice? In this podcast, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by this outstanding panel and discussed the role of regulation and regulators: Matthew Dunn, General Manager – Advocacy, Guidance and Governance, Queensland Law Society Catherine Gleeson, Barrister, NSW Bar Council Member and Deputy Chair of the NSW Bar News Committee Jeannie Paterson, Professor of Law, University of Melbourne and Co-Director, Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Digital Ethics (CAIDE), University of Melbourne Jennifer Shaw, Partner, Bartier Perry Lawyers and Panel Member of the NSW Law Society’s Professional Conduct Advisory Panel This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 58min

Episode 185: Unlocking Justice: The potential and perils of generative AI in improving access to justice

We’ve heard the stats and see every day the increasing and critical need to improve access to justice. There is much GenAI can do to help but it’s not a perfect solution, or is it? In this podcast, Maya Markovich, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Justice Technology Association and CLI Advisory Board member, analysed and discussed the impact of GenAI in A2J with an amazing panel of community legal sector, pro bono, and low bono specialists: Amy Burton, Head of Pro Bono, Mills Oakley and Managing Lawyer, Everyday Justice Laura Elliott, Pro Bono Senior Associate, DLA Piper Daniel Ghezelbash, Associate Professor, UNSW Law & Justice Noel Lim, Co-Founder and CEO, Anika Legal This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.
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Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 2min

Episode 184: Law Unlimited: Welcome to the re-envisioned legal profession

Will Generative AI destroy law firms? Only if lawyers are too fixed in their ways to see the possibilities that lie beyond who we've always been and what we've always done. In this podcast, globally renowned legal commentator Jordan Furlong, Principal at Law21, unpacked the challenges and opportunities of a GenAI-fuelled and human-centred legal world, one that is new, different and completely re-envisioned! This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

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